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What A Level with English Language and History?

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UserAtRandom · 15/06/2021 14:12

Thinking ahead here but DD (currently in Year 10) has started pondering about what she wants to study after GCSEs.
She is pretty sure she wants to study English Language and History.
She is totally unsure about a 3rd A Level.
She would like to go to university - possibly to study English or History or possibly Primary Education. But that might change.

I'm not sure there are any "wrong" answers but interested in thoughts.
Of the other GCSEs she's currently taking
Maths, Science and Spanish - she hates
Art - she loves but is too much of a time killer
RS - she is good at but a bit ambivalent about, a possible
English Lit - she finds very dry, but is a possible
Drama - she loves but she's not the strongest of performers (her view; her teacher is pretty positive about her) although will do well at the written/analytical bits. However her school doesn't currently offer at A Level (chance this might change) and there are personal reason why she would be reluctant to move to a different sixth form.

Another possibility (not studied at GCSE) is Sociology but I don't know if this would be too similar to her other choices. Might suit her in terms of playing to her strong analytical/writing strengths.

Any thoughts, or other suggestions for a 3rd A Level very welcome!

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WhyNotNow21 · 18/06/2021 13:47

What does she hate about Spanish? Could you send her abroad for some language courses to help with getting better at Spanish? Seems like a natural one to take with the other two. I hated French GCSE but at A level it got better, I had a much better teacher.

Also, think of trips to Spain, to S America, Belize, Costa Rica, Mexico.... all the incredible things you could do with that language...

PersephoneInTheGarden · 16/06/2021 14:03

English Lit would be v useful if she went on to do History at university, and also if she chose to do a linguistics degree. If she’s finding it dry then it’s not being taught properly…

clary · 16/06/2021 13:42

Yh I wouldn't do lit/Lang for sure. I agree with others tho, Eng lit much better for English at uni.

Research it a bit and you'll see what we mean. Tho if she is not a fan of analysing a set text then Eng lit A level and degree are probably not for her.

UserAtRandom · 16/06/2021 13:04

@GU24Mum

Not quite the question you asked, but is your daughter sure she wants to opt for English Language as opposed to Literature or Lit/Lang? The other two are likely to be a bit better regarded for university entry if she's considering English.
No, she's not sure. Her school only offer Lang or Lit so it's a binary choice (though she could do both, but not sure that would be desirable). She's been both put off by the GCSE English Lit teaching (but they studied a set text in each of the 2 main lockdowns, so hardly ideal and they are now going through them again) and enthused by her English Lang teacher going on about how great the A Level is. I have said to her that A Level is different to GCSE and I think she needs to look very carefully at what is covered in both courses. (Everyone else in the family is very scientific/maths based so we are all a bit clueless about how to advise a child that's has strengths in humanities/creative subjects!)
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wtftodo · 16/06/2021 13:02

She will need English Lit or at least English Lang & Lit to have a chance of studying English at University.
I'd recommend Philosophy & Ethics with History, English Lit or Lang & Lit. Still sort of RS so if she's good at that she should find it still accessible but also much more captivating.

GU24Mum · 16/06/2021 12:58

Not quite the question you asked, but is your daughter sure she wants to opt for English Language as opposed to Literature or Lit/Lang? The other two are likely to be a bit better regarded for university entry if she's considering English.

Fifthtimelucky · 16/06/2021 11:48

Many years ago my husband, sister and I all took English and history A levels (though we all did English Literature). Our third subjects were RS, politics and music. All worked very well in combination with English and history.

From the subjects you've mentioned, I think RS or drama would work well. My daughter did drama A level. She wasn't one of the strongest performers but did ok on the written exam and ended up with an A. Alternatively, psychology might work well if your daughter is thinking of teaching. My daughter did that too. She is not good at maths but was fine with the statistics needed.

UserAtRandom · 16/06/2021 09:46

@Einszwei

Art shouldn't be a time killer...as long as you know how to use the mark scheme to your advantage. It's an easy subject in which a good grade can usually be guaranteed, and it also means less written exams in the summer.
That's interesting and I it's maybe worth a closer look. Unfortunately DD is a real perfectionist and spends hours and hours on GCSE Art - beyond what I think is expected (and her teacher has said the same). I think she knows she is likely to want to do the same at A Level even if everyone tells her she doesn't need to, so it's probably sensible to avoid. Though it is a good point about lack of exams especially as her subjects all look essay heavy.
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whatswithtodaytoday · 16/06/2021 09:46

This is 20+ years ago, but I did Eng Lang and Lit combined, Sociology and French and I wished I did an art subject. I found the French very hard compared to GCSE, and having two essay subjects plus something I struggled with was tough. I was desperate to do Art or Photography like a lot of my friends, just to get a mental break from essays. If she loves Art I might steer her towards that, though I agree it does take up a lot of time.

If she's considering Sociology I do think it's an interesting subject, and I've actually found what I learned in that more relevant to adult life than either of the others. Definitely no need for maths, I barely scraped my C at GCSE!

Einszwei · 16/06/2021 09:36

Art shouldn't be a time killer...as long as you know how to use the mark scheme to your advantage. It's an easy subject in which a good grade can usually be guaranteed, and it also means less written exams in the summer.

QwertyGirly · 16/06/2021 09:35

That's what my DS will be doing English Literature, History and politics or sociology. He was interested in psychology but it is quite sciency and I'm not sure he'll get a high enough grade in biology.

Law is interesting but most students who do law at University don't have A level law. Although it's a good option I think.

PlanDeRaccordement · 16/06/2021 09:35

Duh, sorry it is a Classical History A level. No idea why I writes GCSE.

It’s good grounding if she’s thinking an archaeology degree might be a possibility.

PlanDeRaccordement · 16/06/2021 09:33

There is a Classical Civilisation GCSE which is basically ancient history of Romans and Greeks. Your DD could look into that one if she is leaning towards a history degree.

TheMarzipanDildo · 16/06/2021 09:30

For what it’s worth, I thought Politics was great at A Level (better than Sociology). But pretty hard so if she’s not into it she might not stick at it.

UserAtRandom · 16/06/2021 09:22

Thank you everyone - some good points in here and areas for her to explore.

So I think she needs to

  • look at A Level content of English Lit vs English Lang to see which would suit her better
  • Consider RS (which has a high component of philosophy/ethics) and sociology. And maybe politics, although she pulled a face at that idea.
  • look into how much maths in psychology and whether that might suit her
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JayAlfredPrufrock · 15/06/2021 18:28

My child wasn’t brilliant at maths but managed an A in Psychology and really enjoyed it.

SometimesRavenSometimesParrot · 15/06/2021 16:19

Film studies? Or Theatre Studies?

littlegreybird · 15/06/2021 16:13

She might well find English lit a lot less dry at A level than at GCSE. If she hates reading and dislikes it because it centres on texts then no, but if it's the formulaic exam responses she dislikes then she might well find A level a lot more stimulating as there is greater emphasis on discussion of different interpretations of texts and a wider variety of texts are studied. Language is completely different from GCSE language - they look at child language acquisition, the history of the English language and language and identity (how language use is affected by gender, age, sexuality etc). Of course there is the usual text analysis as well but I wouldn't call it dry, biased as I am Smile.

MustardRose · 15/06/2021 15:03

Does the school offer Philosophy & Ethics at A-level?

Re Psychology, there's some, but not all that much in the way of maths or science - you don't have to be a whizz at either.

LIZS · 15/06/2021 14:52

Psychology maths is statistics so she may want to look into it before committing. In fact Politics, Sociology and other social sciences also cover it.

Bramshott · 15/06/2021 14:50

As I understand it, Sociology is much less sciency than Psychology BTW.

Bramshott · 15/06/2021 14:50

DD1 has really enjoyed the combination of English, History and Sociology. All very complementary subjects, and Sociology is a bit less essay-based than the other two.

UserAtRandom · 15/06/2021 14:48

Her maths and science skills are ok (she's predicted 87 for science and 7 for maths). She just doesn't enjoy them (and would have chosen not to study them if that had been an option!). So if it's a question of you have to use some maths or scientific principles as part of the A Level, that would be fine I think. If the course becomes more like a science in terms of content/teaching, I think that would put her off.

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FindingMeno · 15/06/2021 14:43

My understanding is that psychology and sociology are certainly not out of the question for someone who isn't so strong on science/ maths, and her strengths that you mentioned would be a real plus.

LIZS · 15/06/2021 14:37

RS or Politics. Drama is difficult to achieve top grades and is dependant on others in the group.