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Post 16 options. No employers for apprenticeships

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MydogWillow · 20/05/2021 14:38

Hi. Not been on here for ages but would really like to pick your brains please.

DS 16, Yr 11, last "formal" day next Friday. He is wanting to do an apprenticeship in soft landscaping/maintenance. We started looking for an employer early in February and found someone local who was very keen, had a meeting and they have been in contact with the college so assumed that it was a go-er.

However as time has passed, it looks like we have been let down by them as they have stopped communicating with the college and us also. However, they are exceptionally busy atm so we are trying to keep positive but time is ticking.

We are now looking at Plan B incase they definitely pull out but have found very few employers locally are wanting to take on apprentices. It would seem this industry is so busy that employers can't be arsed don't want to commit to training an apprentice particularly in the current climate. We are rarely getting responses at all, which I understand isn't unusual in that industry.

Travelling further afield is only as good as public transport allows (not reliable for early starts or late finishes associated with this work) or for cycling/moped.

While DS has enjoyed school he isn't naturally academic and so 6th form or college isn't for him.

So my question is:
If he finds somewhere suitable and they want to employ him but not through an apprenticeship, that will effectively mean he's NEET? And what are the implications of that?

We really hope the original employer comes through but my spidey senses are saying otherwise. We really thought we were sorted nice and early so this has taken us by surprise and are now panicking looking for other options.

TIA and thank you for reading.

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MydogWillow · 20/05/2021 16:21

[quote InpatientGardener]I work in this area, definitely apply for college as a back up option. Have you looked on the findanapprenticeship.gov.uk website to see if there is anything in your area? I know I often see landscaping in our area, south east. He would be NEET if he isn't in education, training or employment in September and technically you should notify benefits office and child benefit would stop. I would also have a look at services for post 16 ETE support near to you as if he signs on with them you can get a 20 week roll on of child benefit whilst they support him back into ETE. Disclaimer, I have been on maternity leave for a while so this may be out of date advice but I doubt things have changed that swiftly.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/child-benefit-apply-for-extension-ch299[/quote]
Hi, I check the gov website daily and the college one too. DS applied for one which was a 10 minute cycle ride away, but he didn't get an interview sadly. So far, all the others are too far away to cycle or moped and public transport isn't great for early starts.

So, could he start employment without an apprenticeship attached as long as we notify about child benefit?

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InpatientGardener · 20/05/2021 16:05

Sorry, I misread, if he were to be employed with no training or education attached then he would not be NEET but for the purposes of child benefit he would be and so previous advice would apply.

InpatientGardener · 20/05/2021 16:01

I work in this area, definitely apply for college as a back up option. Have you looked on the findanapprenticeship.gov.uk website to see if there is anything in your area? I know I often see landscaping in our area, south east. He would be NEET if he isn't in education, training or employment in September and technically you should notify benefits office and child benefit would stop. I would also have a look at services for post 16 ETE support near to you as if he signs on with them you can get a 20 week roll on of child benefit whilst they support him back into ETE. Disclaimer, I have been on maternity leave for a while so this may be out of date advice but I doubt things have changed that swiftly.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/child-benefit-apply-for-extension-ch299

MydogWillow · 20/05/2021 15:52

Many thanks. Seems very well organised. We shall take a closer look.

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TeenMinusTests · 20/05/2021 15:42

Sparsholt buses cover quite a wide area, here is this year's timetable.
www.sparsholt.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Campus-Bus-Timetable-20.21-from-02.11.20-002.pdf
(My DD is going in Sept).

MydogWillow · 20/05/2021 15:36

Huge thanks for the link, I'll take a closer look as they are slightly closer than Berkshire College.

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TeenMinusTests · 20/05/2021 15:31

Have you looked at the link I posted above?

MydogWillow · 20/05/2021 15:26

@EllieNBeeb

Why dont you look into don't vocational qualifications that aren't apprenticeships? They do them in horticulture etc
Many thanks for your speedy reply.

I've just rung our college co-ordinator and understand the vocational quals are for 19+. The new T-levels starting Sept don't cover horticulture unfortunately. It would seem the only choices are apprenticeship or full time college Confused

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motogogo · 20/05/2021 15:12

Look at a college course in horticulture perhaps. There will be one in most counties, usually rural, and some have accommodation for weekly boarding

TeenMinusTests · 20/05/2021 15:12

www.sparsholt.ac.uk/subject/horticulture/?f=full-time

TeenMinusTests · 20/05/2021 15:10

An apprenticeship would still have academic work, though i accept, less classroom based.
I too would go for a plan B at an agricultural college if you have one anywhere near you.
Our local one Sparsholt in Hants also does accommodation for those who live too far away.

EllieNBeeb · 20/05/2021 14:55

Why dont you look into don't vocational qualifications that aren't apprenticeships? They do them in horticulture etc

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