SW London boys 11+ 2022 entry

@user5756757987 it seems we have the same child! 😆😆😆 you have literally described my DS, am sure it is something they will grow out of and perhaps for those very reasons St Paul’s wasn’t the right school (for my DS) 🥴

@Mumchumof2 yes, DS was getting wildly different test scores on Atom and I asked the Atom admin team why this was and they mentioned that if you get one of the earlier easier questions wrong then you don't unlock the hardest material which is what gets you to the top marks. DS was getting anywhere between 117 to the maximum 142 on Atom and he's prone to silly mistakes and rushing through the test . which can cost you on the easier questions at the beginning.

Also, my experience with doing practise tests at home with DS is that he generally did better on papers that he thought were harder than on those that he thought were easier. Given his tendency to do things quickly and in his head with no working out (even though I've told him time and again to write things down as it makes it easier to visualise the question and avoid unnecessary errors in mental calculations but to no avail), my guess is that the harder ones require him to concentrate/focus more and so we avoid some of the silly mistakes. Was reading somewhere that given a seemingly straightforward question (that wasn't actually as straightforward as it seemed), participants did better on that question if the font was smaller as they had to focus harder.....

Who knows. However, the problem of silly mistakes isn't easy to fix. I do prefer the written tests format.

@user5756757987 how very wise of you! Totally agree! DS seemed to think the st Paul’s exam was somewhat easier than Hampton or Tiffins, so I actually think now he may have not had the strongest start which led to an easier test... is that how it works? But all is not lost, we are waiting for Friday and then have some more in Jan... sigh

@Mumchumof2 I no longer ask DS how things went because I won't be content either way, if he says it went well I worry that he didn't get some of the questions, and for ISEB that he didn't get exposed to the harder ones and if he says it didn't go well I of course also worry. If I do slip up sometimes and ask DS how he thought it went, he replies with 'it was okay', which is the correct answer.
gosh, can't wait for all this to be over.

Thank you @Gettingcloser21
DS was equally content after the Hampton exam as he was post St Paul’s.. so not sure what to make of that 😆 but I do think he would have done better in paper. Fingers crossed!
Best of luck to your DS, he has done exceptionally well to get this far x

Hi All, Does anyone know what does Critical thinking includes for the Whitgift 11+ examination? Is it non-verbal reasoning? thank you

Sorry to hear that @Mumchumof2. @user5756757987

St Paul’s is undoubtedly a stretch for DS so he’s really pleased to have got through but still very early days. I have no ideas of the statistics. They did mention this in the Open Day but DH attended and he now can’t remember.

Good luck for the Hampton results which I think are out on Friday.

Sorry to hear that @Mumchumof2 - we still haven't heard, I'm not holding out much hope. As you say, time to focus on the next one.

Hi @user5756757987, I emailed the school. DS did not get through, they emailed everyone yesterday but they inputted the incorrect email address. A shame as DS felt really good after the tests and thought he did well... will be a tricky one to let him down gently, but we knew he would do better on written assessments so time to focus for the next one! They won’t give you the ISEB results sadly.

@Mumchumof2 we also haven't heard from St Paul's yet. It's not among our top choices but I wanted to know if DS got through to the second round to gauge how well he did in the ISEB for another school we've applied to .

Thank you @Gettingcloser21, will keep my eye out for tomorrow, well done to your DS! All the best for the next round!

@Mumchumof2 I don’t think that’s necessarily the case. Check junk folders or perhaps they are working alphabetically/by school etc. Hopefully, you’ll hear something tomorrow. FWIW they’ve confirmed 2nd stage is-
Comprehension - 45 mins
Composition- 45 mins
Maths - 60 mins

Oh DS also sat the st Paul’s but we haven’t heard back today. I’m guessing the boys that got through were messaged today and all others will be told tomorrow

St Paul’s stage 1 results were out today. Did anyone else sit the pre-test? DS has been invited to stage 2 on
4 Jan. It’d be great if anyone has any insight of the type of exam/any helpful pointers as they don’t publish papers.

Thanks for the recommendation @Pyrfwondering

@11plusoveryet and @Mumchumof2 - yes, I also feel like all the material has been covered and not much more to be done. Good to know others are also taking it easy, it's impossible to keep up the momentum for that long. I'm planning for DS to do 1 maths question a day (but even that feels ambitious right now) until end of term.

@Mumchumof2 that’s exactly what we are doing. We are giving DS a well deserved break before he sits Latymer in Jan. We’ve encouraged reading until then too.

@user5756757987 we are in the same position. It’s quite a long period of time to keep up the momentum so we are having a little break, I think DS needs a break to reset- by now there isn’t much else to learn, it should all be in there somewhere 🤞. DS has worked hard and I think they are owed a Christmas... will go over the material we have in the new year. Until then keep up the reading 🤗

@user5756757987, give Walsh books a try, if you haven't tried them. Bond 11+ Stretch books were pretty good too. Good luck!

DS has some private school 11+ exams coming up in January, we've been going since the grammar school tests in September. Definitely a marathon not a sprint and so difficult to keep the motivation, for both me and him. Also because I'm not sure what more we can do.
Any suggestions for good stretch books/papers to use for English and maths. ?

@sunshineclouds24 thankyou but I tried looking for it and cannot find the information on Cut off marks

@VC75 there is a thread on elevenplusexams.co.uk covering this - in the Surrey section.

Hi All,

Please can someone share the cut-off marks for Sutton Grammar second stage exams2021?

Many thanks

@Gettingcloser21, he sat on Friday. It was a long afternoon (they finished at 6:30pm) which I think was pretty tough on the boys.

Did anyone do Emanuel 10 or 11+?

Any feedback on that exam or numbers sitting this year for both?