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Head refuses to reward Year 11’s with a July Prom? Any ideas?

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Mom69 · 16/05/2021 18:30

My DC is in Year 11 and is nearly finished 4 weeks of GCSE exam papers - sometimes with 4 papers/day! The Head has decided not to reward them with with their Prom at the end of July! Parents have offered to organise it, and despite numerous emails the Head has said ‘she has nothing further to say on the matter’. She’s even done a u-turn and will no longer give them a last exam-free day of school together and is escorting them off the premises by 11.45am. I am SO upset for her year group, even last year’s cohort had a final day together! I’m not sure where to turn to escalate it? Any ideas? 😡☹️

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Foosterin · 17/05/2021 20:14

OP I have no idea why you are being flamed here. Many schools are planning proms. Why shouldn't yours? Why should some year 11s get an end of year experience and others not? Also, yes teachers are drowning in assessment red tape - this is not the fault of the kids themselves and not an excuse for giving them no end of year celebrations. These kids have had a terrible 12 months and they deserve it.

ForThePurposeOfTheTape · 17/05/2021 15:30

This is the digital age - I'm surprised that you couldn't use the power of social media to gather contacts whether it's via the kids or on mediums like Facebook where the parents may be.

angieloumc · 17/05/2021 10:17

My daughter didn't have her Y11 prom last year; very sad but just the way it was. Her school isn't doing a Y11 one this year either. However a Y13 one is going ahead up to press, but obviously will depend on restrictions, so maybe she'll have it next year.
OP, I can see why students would be disappointed, but better to not have one than get all sorted for it then to be cancelled.

CorvusPurpureus · 17/05/2021 09:05

Teacher here. The Head is perfectly within her rights to say no - imagine the flak she would get if a week later, half the year group, several of the venue's bar staff & a group of chaperoning teachers came down with covid? & then someone died?

Heads have to cover their arses & be risk averse, basically.

You can try to organise a party via word of mouth, but good luck with hiring a venue.

They tend to insist on teacher chaperones. This is because a substantial number of the kids will get completely trolleyed, & teaching staff may have slightly more authority than their mates' mums or the venue staff.

However, no teacher in their right mind is going to agree to attend an unofficial event organised by parents. It would not only be incredibly risky because it will inevitably be even more shambolic than your average prom, given that the parents organising are naive enough to think booking a piss up for 300 teenagers in the middle of a pandemic is a good idea - there'll be flappy pissed parents getting underfoot everywhere & in the way of the vomiting/fighting/blue lights...oh & any teacher who agreed to attend would be undermining the Head. Not generally a good career move - in fact in these circumstances probably a disciplinary.

Honestly, how about a reunion party at Xmas/next summer if things are better then?

00100001 · 17/05/2021 08:35

@singsingbluesilver

the school is under no obligation to hold a prom. The staff have absolutely the right not to be involved. Why on earth do you think school staff should be giving up yet more of their own time to facilitate this. Covid or not, this is simply not something any school is obliged to do.

I don't care how well behaved the cohort is, there is always the chance that some will drink or not behave . I stopped attending after school events like this after too many incidents of drunkeness and vandalism to the venue.

If yo want a party so much then you can organise it.

YY.

I wonder how many parents would actually step up and organise, promote and chaperone the event..

They'll all think it's marvelous idea and OF COURSE they should have a leaving do... But, I can't organise catering,no...sorry, I'm busy, I've got kids....

Oh you need someone to manage the money, collect it in, make sure they've all paid? Oh yeah....no sorry I'm too busy...

Wait you need someone to make sure only those with tickets get in? Oh..I would but I've got kids an sit their bed time...

You need to find money from somewhere to book a space? Oh sure ...bit isn't that included in the ticket cost? I'll pay for the tickets..but someone else will have to pre-pay the hall hire...

You need help setting up and clearing down on. The night?? Oh umm..well I would help, I really would,but the kids... They'll be in bed... And you know...

BigSandyBalls2015 · 17/05/2021 08:32

At 16 surely they can organise something low key themselves! They don’t need mummy to organise a get together with their mates surely!

00100001 · 17/05/2021 08:29

@Mom69

She says she doesn’t want to do it where everyone isn’t vaccinated and a bunch of other excuses!
To be fair.... She doesn't need "excuses"

It's not a right.

If she doesn't want one...that's the end if it.

She may have valid reasons like... cost... staffing... Covid worries...lack of space... Administrative burden... Year 11s have been trouble...

But at the end if the day, it's not a requirement to provide a leaving celebration in any form...

cansu · 17/05/2021 08:01

You are being very blinkered. There is a real chance that the variant will become a problem and that things like this kind of indoor event will have to be cancelled. If there has been expense it will no doubt be down to the school to sort. It is reasonable to not do a prom even if it is disappointing.

singsingbluesilver · 17/05/2021 08:01

the school is under no obligation to hold a prom. The staff have absolutely the right not to be involved. Why on earth do you think school staff should be giving up yet more of their own time to facilitate this. Covid or not, this is simply not something any school is obliged to do.

I don't care how well behaved the cohort is, there is always the chance that some will drink or not behave . I stopped attending after school events like this after too many incidents of drunkeness and vandalism to the venue.

If yo want a party so much then you can organise it.

ineedaholidaynow · 17/05/2021 07:56

Maybe parents should be organising a party for all the teachers after they have finished all the assessments they need to do

DustCentral · 17/05/2021 07:45

Also OP. Not sure if you’re aware but teachers, support staff and the SLT of the school are currently drowning in red tape and ever changing guidance on how to award your Y11 the correct grades AND have enough evidence to prove it when little Tommy’s mum kicks off. It’s hell in schools right now. Staff exhausted and stressed. And you think staff should throw them a party in a pandemic. Stop being entitled and see the bigger picture. Arrange it yourself if it matters so much.

FrippEnos · 17/05/2021 07:09

This is definately one of the more entitled posts of MN.

Icytundra · 17/05/2021 06:49

So many problems with this. Many already mentioned but to add

  • you can guarantee that if it gets cancelled/ something goes wrong, parents and the wider community will contact the school expecting them to sort it. In this year of shite it really isn't worth it.
  • in the schools I've worked in around England, it's common for year 11's last day to be a half day. They get a bit .... Rowdy....
ChloeDecker · 17/05/2021 06:11

@Frazzledfranny

4000 people attended the Brit Awards the other night. No masks or social distancing.
All those in the audience were from the NHS, so all fully vaccinated and Jack Whitehall said they all had negative tests right before the event.

Bit different to unvaccinated 11 year olds and most of which probably stopped LFT testing ages ago.

In all honesty OP, your child’s teachers’ are currently drowning in marking, moderation, admin and writing statements, just for your Year 11s (and 13s if your school has them) not to mention still trying to teach everyone else and plan and mark for those years. The Head may well not be having a spare minute to themselves.

If you are so desperate for a prom, for that many Year 11s, check your DD’s school email account and you will find she will have an email address in there (from a whole year email sent to her) that sends emails to the whole of Year 11.

Use that to send an email address to send all the pupils a message giving your contact details if they wish to take part and go from there.

HasaDigaEebowai · 16/05/2021 23:56

Our year 11s are having a prom. They’re also having exams in the exam hall.

RogueMNerKnowsNoShame · 16/05/2021 23:51

@Livingintheclouds

For all you saying 'there's a pandemic'. Yes, and I imagine the y11 are in a bubble at school and gatherings will be allowed for weddings and funerals with people who may have no other contact with each other so a prom seems far more low risk than any of those activities. Is there a board of governors at your school? I'd complain to them. But orgsnise it as much as you can- even of it means getting notes out to all the students at school this week. It just takes one parent to take control and get others involved in organising it. Our school is having a prom. They decorate the dining hall with thousands of fairy lights and the kids have a lovely meal. Usually some sort of casino like activity too. Normally there would be an after party at some gullible parents house but not this year.
Any decent board of governors would be well aware of the utterly hellish year head teachers have had and say ‘don’t blame you, you’ve got out full support,

If op wants to arrange something, print out 300 slips with explanation of what hoping to arrange and contact details and the child hands them out.

RogueMNerKnowsNoShame · 16/05/2021 23:44

@Floralnomad

You want it then you organise it , if it’s that important to your child they can spend the next few days getting everybody’s email address etc . This year has been absolute shite for teachers and I can see why they don’t want to be involved .
Exactly what I was going to say
Livingintheclouds · 16/05/2021 22:55

For all you saying 'there's a pandemic'. Yes, and I imagine the y11 are in a bubble at school and gatherings will be allowed for weddings and funerals with people who may have no other contact with each other so a prom seems far more low risk than any of those activities.
Is there a board of governors at your school? I'd complain to them.
But orgsnise it as much as you can- even of it means getting notes out to all the students at school this week. It just takes one parent to take control and get others involved in organising it.
Our school is having a prom. They decorate the dining hall with thousands of fairy lights and the kids have a lovely meal. Usually some sort of casino like activity too. Normally there would be an after party at some gullible parents house but not this year.

TrashPanda · 16/05/2021 22:46

My eldest was in Year 6 last year so didn't get any of the normal end of year stuff. Trying to arrange a present for the teacher. The school couldn't give out other parent details but did agree to send an email to all the parents giving contact details for the parent trying to organise the present. Would the school do that?

UserAtRandom · 16/05/2021 22:22

If they are in school until 11.45am surely there'll be some sort of leaving assembly ... and this leaves the rest of the day free for them all to get drunk hang out in the park with food and drink. Surely they will end up doing that whatever is officially planned, and it will be a memorable end to Year 11?

paralysedbyinertia · 16/05/2021 22:16

Our school are planning one, and I'm really happy for dd, but totally understand why some schools have decided to avoid them this year. I am half expecting ours to be cancelled due to covid, and can just imagine the grief that headteachers will get if parents have spent loads of money on non-returnable prom dresses etc.

I think you should respect the school's decision. If covid restrictions permit, there won't be anything to stop the kids from getting dressed up and having their own celebration when the time comes.

Teachers have had a hard time this year, dealing with all of the remote learning, changes to assessment etc. I can't get upset about them choosing not to prioritise a party. Yes, it's a shame for the kids, but it really isn't the end of the world.

reallyreallyborednow · 16/05/2021 22:04

4000 people attended the Brit Awards the other night. No masks or social distancing

One event.

Roughly 200 kids per yr 11 per high school? 3500 state secondaries, so not including private, academies etc. So 700,000 state school kids alone all getting up close and personal, then going home to families.

Bit different to 4000.

HalzTangz · 16/05/2021 21:45

@Mom69

You know that all restrictions will be lifted throughout the country on July 21st yeah?!
No they won't, Boris said as much on Friday
HalzTangz · 16/05/2021 21:44

@Mom69

Really? When vaccination remains a choice there will never be a scenario when everyone is vaccinated? All the other schools are having a Prom and are able to do it post July when all restrictions are lifted? Sporting venues and festivals are going ahead. So, a year group that has been in the same bubble, performing regular LFT tests in a school with no cases, surely if she wanted to find a way, she could?! What’s wrong with organising it on the understanding that everyone does a test as a pre-requisite to attending?
Except Boris has announced that all restrictions might not be listed on June 21st as first planned.

Sorry but kids life's won't be ruined 8f they don't have an Americanised prom

24GinDrinkingOnceTheKidsInBed · 16/05/2021 21:40

Throw her a sweet 16 instead. Black tie event? They can get dressed up like they would for prom.

It’s really not that big of a deal.. and I’m young, my prom was only 9 years ago. I didn’t go. I had money given to me for what would have been spent on a dress, transport ect instead. I don’t regret not going either.

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