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PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 18/03/2021 10:05

DS's PE teacher said he'd be fine doing PE for GCSE but recommended he pick up football or rugby out of school to enhance his skills.

He dropped them both at about 10 years old and is reluctant to return. Logistics is difficult too as he's with his dad every other weekend 1.5 hrs away.

I told him he'd have to throw himself into lunch time and after school sports opportunities and try to do something at the weekend to improve his fitness after lockdown!

Does anybody have any experience of doing PE without out of school on top?

I can totally see that it would help, but it seems like a bit like an admission of failure on the school's part tbh.

Thank you.

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dcb2 · 20/03/2021 18:13

@ittakes2

sorry running 5k at home does not count he would need to run competitively but this could be through school
The good thing about running is that you could do the time-consuming training part at home, then the race itself at school.

Having checked with my son, he said that the B team players who didn't play club/county sport were typically given around 18/20 out of 25 for their sports, which translates to a 7/8 out of the maximum 10% for each sport. (Proviso that our school sport is a fairly good standard).

Being completely honest, it was his easiest GCSE but one he really enjoyed. It's worth picking your sports carefully but you don't have to be Owen Farrell to get an 8 or 9.

ittakes2 · 20/03/2021 17:55

sorry running 5k at home does not count he would need to run competitively but this could be through school

ittakes2 · 20/03/2021 17:50

We were also told that our son needed to do 3 sports with extra activities out of school for all three. I think it really depends on whether you/he cares or needs a good grade in PE. If he can't do out of school sports I suspect it will affect his grade but if that doesn't matter than why not.
My son goes to a grammar school and I suspect his GCSE PE score will be the lower than his academic grades but its also the subject he enjoys most at school so makes perfect sense to me he takes it.

dcb2 · 20/03/2021 17:29

My son did PE GCSE last year. He needed one individual and one team sport then another one from either category. I'd recommend downloading the syllabus as there is very specific and helpful guidance for each sport. He was county level at hockey and cricket but ended up being assessed in rugby and cricket. Even then, it subdivides from memory - so could be bowling, batting or fielding for cricket, or kicking and passing for rugby (though double check that..)

School carried out the team sports assessments - he was given a grade by his coach based on his performance over the season. Covid rather put paid to moderation but school is typically asked to put on a competitive match for at least one sport that the moderator can watch. Apparently, if they were deemed to have marked candidates too generously in this match, all GCSE candidates would be marked downwards (across all the sports).

My son picked skiing for his individual sport - the requirements were very specific so, in all honesty, it slightly overshadowed our ski holiday trying to record all the bits for the video (it's one of the few individual sports done by video only). Kids that didn't really have an individual sport were encouraged by school to do athletics, again a race was put on for them.

I definitely wouldn't say you need to play sport out of school or be county level, provided the standard of sport at your school is good. I think each sport contributed 10% of his final mark (and coursework another 10%), therefore getting a 6 or 8 (or whatever) doesn't have a huge bearing relative to the exams in any case.

For what it's worth, my son really enjoyed the course and there was a fair bit of overlap with biology.

TheTeenageYears · 20/03/2021 00:10

Ds and DD both did PE - slightly different as we are outside the UK so iGCSE. Download the syllabus and look at all the sports allowed and criteria for reaching each point level. Mine had to do 4 sports but understand from friends it's 3 in England. The requirements change from year to year. DS's year all swam at school in Y10 and most got the highest mark, 2 years later the times had changed so much that only a few of those would have got top score 2 years later. DS's year were hastily filming in Feb of Y11 whilst trying to cram everything else in for GCSE's. It was quite stressful so I got very familiar with the syllabus before DD started and we talked about and planned her sports together rather than leaving it up to discussions at school.

Midlifephoenix · 19/03/2021 23:35

You certainly do not need to be County level at sport. They are interested in progress, though of course the subject is self selecting- a child should not do it if they are not interested in sport! But all the kids that took PE GCSE at our school did sport outside of school (my son did rugby and rowing, the latter he only started in Y10) and I believe that they had to be competitive.

PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 19/03/2021 14:35

Ah ok. Thank you!

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Hersetta427 · 19/03/2021 14:07

@PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears

Is wrestling a thing here? My nephew did it in the US. He's a big boy so wrestling would suit him!

Thank you all so much. You've been really helpful!

Wrestling is not on the approved list of sports for GCSE PE.
PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 18/03/2021 22:49

Is wrestling a thing here? My nephew did it in the US. He's a big boy so wrestling would suit him!

Thank you all so much. You've been really helpful!

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clary · 18/03/2021 22:23

haha football is his A levels! he wishes! I meant it is his sport for Alevel PE lol.

clary · 18/03/2021 22:20

actually yes, thinking about it ds2 played footy for a county team at one point. It's less of a thing than kids playing for junior teams in pro clubs tho I think. Not that he does that either - and by the way football is his A levels.

Agree re swimming - he would need to be in a club, tricky at 13 if not swim for a while. Martial arts is a good shout as progress is clear. Athletics offers summer comps where you get ratified results. Or something off the wall like fencing?

QueenofLouisiana · 18/03/2021 22:08

DS’s school strongly recommend out if school sport for students doing GCSE PE- ideally one at county or above (yes, county football exists as this was used by another student I know as one of his sports).

Swimming (DS’s main sport) requires a knowledge of 4 correct strokes, evidence of competition and training. It’s easy to prove progress and achievements as swimming results are all maintained online by British Swimming. But they need to be registered with a club and British Swimming to do this. It’s not a case of going for a quick splash once a week.

PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 18/03/2021 22:02

Ugh - how do you tag? 😂

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PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 18/03/2021 22:00

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I totally agree. I think it's a good thing overall and look forward him to having longer on the subjects that matter, especially as they play catch up after lockdown. On the whole it's been an easy decision to ditch the subjects he's not as keen on.

It's just this out of school sport that's thrown me. All he said was that it would help him play to a higher level.

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Lougle · 18/03/2021 21:44

Our school says they have to be playing sport "competitively" to do GCSE PE.

ihearttc · 18/03/2021 21:35

@PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears

My DS school did options at the end of Y8 too (although not in the middle of Covid obviously). It was the best thing he could have done, I know it’s not always a popular choice though. He got to concentrate on subjects he really enjoyed and actually wanted to do. He is now Y11 and doing three year GCSE’s has been really helpful at the moment as they had covered a huge chunk of the content already last year when they went into lockdown so although it’s still been very stressful he’s already done a 1 1/2 years of his GCSE courses already by last March.

PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 18/03/2021 20:11

@Hersetta427

What sports he going to choose to be assessed on. Two team sports and 1 individual or the other way round.

DD has just chosen PE. We are fine for team sports as she plays her main sport at national team level and plays in the school A team at netball. We have more problems with individual sports. She does running for fitness so may choose that but we will take advice from the school. She doesn't get a huge amount of time to join another club though as she trains 3-4 nights a week at her main sport plus games at the weekend(COVID aside) and then monthly regional and national team sessions

I would imagine it is very hard to do all the assessments and filming that is required just doing in school sport. I would probably discourage it as an option in your position as he sounds like he doesn't like the sport side of it enough.

I'm not sure yet. He needs to talk to his teacher tomorrow I suppose. The options deadline is Monday 9am.

It feels a bit rushed. He only went back to school on Monday (15th). Obviously he missed half of Y7 and has only had eight weeks of the autumn term of Y8 with isolations etc.

Yes - they're doing options in Y8 rather than Y9.

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Hersetta427 · 18/03/2021 19:30

What sports he going to choose to be assessed on. Two team sports and 1 individual or the other way round.

DD has just chosen PE. We are fine for team sports as she plays her main sport at national team level and plays in the school A team at netball. We have more problems with individual sports. She does running for fitness so may choose that but we will take advice from the school. She doesn't get a huge amount of time to join another club though as she trains 3-4 nights a week at her main sport plus games at the weekend(COVID aside) and then monthly regional and national team sessions

I would imagine it is very hard to do all the assessments and filming that is required just doing in school sport. I would probably discourage it as an option in your position as he sounds like he doesn't like the sport side of it enough.

Bunnybigears · 18/03/2021 17:34

Martial arts are a good individual sport, they usually take place on a weekday evening and have an easy to follow grading system so you can demonstrate improvement really easily.

clary · 18/03/2021 17:29

If he took swimming up again, he would need to do it as part of a club I think, as you need to be assessed on your level. So just swimming for fun (while excellent and a good idea) would not get him anywhere in terms of PE assessments.

The things he does in school would make two team sports, could he do something out of school that would be an individual sport? I don't the the rowing machine will do.

All this depends also how good a grade he wants to get. The higher you aim for, the better you need to be at sport. More marks come from the theory side tho.

Bunnybigears · 18/03/2021 17:24

How do the assessments work? Suppose he started swimming independently... or running 5k type thing from home. Would they count?

I dont know how the assessment works DS is picking his options soon and this is all the info we have on PE so far but I have seen at my younger sons county swimming galas parents videoing their child to submit as evidence for GCSEs but I guess they also have their officially recorded times so I dont know how they would assess if it isn't an organised sport if you see what I mean.

ihearttc · 18/03/2021 17:20

@PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears

So does my DS, he should do really well then. An outside school sport is preferable but not essential I don’t think.

BunnyRuddington · 18/03/2021 17:18

Cricket is often in the week at this age.

PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 18/03/2021 17:16

The rowing is just machine in the gym! Not on a river! He does (did) it three times a week.

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PleaseReferToMeAsBritneySpears · 18/03/2021 17:15

@Bunnybigears

They are normally asked to do a team sport an individual sport and another one. What does he do (if anything) at the moment?

At school he does (did before restrictions) extra curricular football, rugby and rowing.
When he was at primary school he did out of school football and rugby but isn't going to go back to those. Oh, and swimming up to bronze.

How do the assessments work? Suppose he started swimming independently... or running 5k type thing from home. Would they count?

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