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Nervous about Secondary School allocations out this week!

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PinotLover · 23/02/2021 09:25

Just another to thing to stress about but it's for my PFB so never been through it before. We find out on the 1st March, am being a silly stress head on here rather than in real life. Any one else? We are in the same postcode as the school we prefer, so it's a big deal if it goes wrong!

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PatriciaHolm · 01/03/2021 15:49

@Puffthemagicdragongoestobed

Will the whole of London be online at 5? Or does it vary from borough to borough?
should be!
ProfessorPootle · 01/03/2021 15:48

@Chocoholicmumma

Thanks *@notoffee* I can’t deal with this lol. Does anyone know how late they carry on sending the emails? I’ve spoken to every parent I have contact with and they ALL have heard now 😭 why us?
We're part of London and emails start going out at 5.30pm but I've personally received them at 8.30pm in the past, so 3hrs later than others! They send in batches round here apparently as so many applicants.
Puffthemagicdragongoestobed · 01/03/2021 15:48

Will the whole of London be online at 5? Or does it vary from borough to borough?

Psychobobble · 01/03/2021 15:33

@notoffee

We were given our results yesterday and I contacted the schools involved first thing this morning.

Chocoholicmumma · 01/03/2021 15:12

Thanks @notoffee I can’t deal with this lol. Does anyone know how late they carry on sending the emails? I’ve spoken to every parent I have contact with and they ALL have heard now 😭 why us?

notoffee · 01/03/2021 15:05

But how did you find that out so earlier in the process Psychobobble? surely you will be top of the list too so fingers crossed.

I have calmed down re the places. Just need to wait and see.

Did not sleep.

Chocoholicmumma hang in there. Best of luck. It really is nerve wracking!

Chillihat · 01/03/2021 14:51

Thank you to those who are offering their help and support on this thread, it is very much appreciated. I'm counting down the minutes until 5pm!

PatriciaHolm · 01/03/2021 14:47

I second prh - I'm happy to take PMs if people would rather. Though if it's a reasonable general case you will get good advice by posting on here as there are several of us with knowledge and experience.

prh47bridge · 01/03/2021 13:58

If anyone wants advice on appeals, I would recommend starting a thread with some information about your case and putting the word "appeal" in the title.

I can't answer for other appeal experts but I will always respond to PMs if you don't want to post information publicly.

KnobblyWand · 01/03/2021 13:57

The emails in Kent are starting to be received... Biting my fingernails off trying to distract myself with the weekly morrisons shop.

Hersetta427 · 01/03/2021 13:44

@Psychobobble

Just found out we are 8 metres further from the school than their last allocated distance place.

I know they have to draw the line somewhere, but...8m!!

If you missed out by that small a distance then you will be at the top of the waiting list and I would almost guarantee that you will get a place on the next allocation run.
GolfForBrains · 01/03/2021 13:41

That's good Psychobobble, you should be high up the waiting list.

Chocoholicmumma · 01/03/2021 13:35

Still nothing here. Other mums on school fb group got started getting their results hours ago. My nerves can’t take this!

Psychobobble · 01/03/2021 13:31

Just found out we are 8 metres further from the school than their last allocated distance place.

I know they have to draw the line somewhere, but...8m!!

Stokey · 01/03/2021 13:25

Sorry for your DD @cautiouscovidity. I do feel sorry for them too - & us, so hard to make good decisions editor without open days - but hopefully they'll get a normalish final term. Also feel like things should be more normal by the start of next term which will be better than this year's poor Y7s, who have really had a tough time.

cautiouscovidity · 01/03/2021 13:14

Good luck to everyone waiting. DD didn't get the grammar she wanted. Not unexpected as her 11+ results were lower than she'd expected but still hard to see it in black and white.
I just feel so sad for this cohort. No school from March - September of year 5, no open days so no opportunity to see the schools first hand, missed a chunk of year 6 already Sad.

Todaytomorrowyesterday · 01/03/2021 13:03

@bex12345
Hopefully you’ll be fine - 5th before people have even started accepting- things like people having state school as a backup to private or people moving out of area! Wine

bex12345 · 01/03/2021 12:55

[quote Todaytomorrowyesterday]@KitHenry
You may have had other people update as I haven’t read it all.
I was in your place a few years ago - it was awful feeling accepting a place that I knew she would never go to BUT I accepted the place as I knew that without accepting the LA as far as they concerned had done there bit.

I contacted the schools to find out where she was in the waiting list and added to others in the area. The one school we wanted has an intake of 220 and I was 35th.
We put a lot of effort into the appeal while trying to find a suitable backup private school - we couldn’t afford it but found something.
I phoned the school regularly during the appeal process and finding out where she was on the list - we moved up and down!
The day before the appeal we got the call to say she was in the school we wanted! It takes time but keep the hope and accept the place you don’t want (though I needed wine to do that ...)[/quote]
Wow. Thanks for sharing this... I now feel that all is not lost (5th on waiting list here)!

Todaytomorrowyesterday · 01/03/2021 12:52

@Psychobobble
It won’t knock you off the waiting list.
We found out the day before appeal panel that we had a place - so relief all around!

Todaytomorrowyesterday · 01/03/2021 12:44

@KitHenry
You may have had other people update as I haven’t read it all.
I was in your place a few years ago - it was awful feeling accepting a place that I knew she would never go to BUT I accepted the place as I knew that without accepting the LA as far as they concerned had done there bit.

I contacted the schools to find out where she was in the waiting list and added to others in the area. The one school we wanted has an intake of 220 and I was 35th.
We put a lot of effort into the appeal while trying to find a suitable backup private school - we couldn’t afford it but found something.
I phoned the school regularly during the appeal process and finding out where she was on the list - we moved up and down!
The day before the appeal we got the call to say she was in the school we wanted! It takes time but keep the hope and accept the place you don’t want (though I needed wine to do that ...)

MrsAvocet · 01/03/2021 12:44

@KitHenry the other option that you have, that I don't think anyone has mentioned (apols if they have and I missed it) is to look at other schools that you didn't apply for originally. If you don't get a place at any of the schools you expressed a preference for, the LEA will allocate you a place at the closest school with spaces left. That doesn't necessarily mean it's the only school with places. There may be others a bit further away that are more acceptable to you. So it might be worth enquiring about other schools with places available? You could also ask about waiting lists for full schools that you didn't put on your original list of preferences- I don't think there is a limit to the number of waiting lists you can be on so I would get on the list for every school that you would prefer to the one you've been allocated.
But as others have said, don't reject the place you've been offered unless you are willing to homeschool or go private. The LEA have no obligation to find you another place if you reject what you've been offered.

Panicmode1 · 01/03/2021 12:30

Congratulations and commiserations to those who have already found out.

We are in Kent so 'after 4pm', although he reached the grammar score needed and has a sibling so it should be a formality - but I'd still like to see it in black and white!!

PatriciaHolm · 01/03/2021 12:25

[quote Psychobobble]@GolfForBrains

I will appeal, nothing ventured nothing gained, but the grounds for appeal are probably quite flimsy. But if I am understanding you correctly there is a chance she could get a waiting list place before the appeal hearing? I mean, putting in an appeal won't knock her off the waiting list?[/quote]
Definitely not, no. The waiting list and the appeals process are entirely separate.

Psychobobble · 01/03/2021 12:19

@GolfForBrains

I will appeal, nothing ventured nothing gained, but the grounds for appeal are probably quite flimsy. But if I am understanding you correctly there is a chance she could get a waiting list place before the appeal hearing? I mean, putting in an appeal won't knock her off the waiting list?

GolfForBrains · 01/03/2021 12:15

No they're not @Psychobobble, so it is important you are on the waiting list if you are planning to appeal. There will be a timetable somewhere on your LA site for appeals and my recollection is that it is May/June for appeal hearings. A successful appeal results in a place regardless outside the normal PAN but that's why the school will be arguing the disadvantage to the school of squeezing an extra pupil in outweighs the benefit to the individual child.