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Nervous about Secondary School allocations out this week!

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PinotLover · 23/02/2021 09:25

Just another to thing to stress about but it's for my PFB so never been through it before. We find out on the 1st March, am being a silly stress head on here rather than in real life. Any one else? We are in the same postcode as the school we prefer, so it's a big deal if it goes wrong!

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MummyMayo1988 · 02/03/2021 20:59

I was the same. There are several rather bad schools in our area - some of last years intake didn't even get any of their preferred choices.
There are a handful of children in DS's class that I really want him to get away from bc of bullying.
Thankfully he got his first choice and will be going to a good school with his best friend from nursery and the lovely little lady from next door who he's known since he was 3.
Panic, worry and stress over 🙃

Moochiemum · 02/03/2021 19:57

Hi my son attends FCH. It is a brilliant school. Excellent teaching and pastoral care. Would choose it again now. Produces lovely, well mannered boys with excellent values and high academic aims.

Mesoavocado · 02/03/2021 19:52

Every year I read these posts and am very glad in Scotland you are for most part put in your catchment area.

I don't know anyone that didn't get their catchment though do know some who asked for placement out with their catchment

All this applying seems so stressful

riceuten · 02/03/2021 19:29

I work in admissions for a London local authority.

I should do an AMA at some point !

Rest assured, we will find 100 different ways of telling you that unfortunately there were more siblings, medical/social needs, and people closer to the school than you, more out of boredom than anything else. Quite a lot of the time we're not the admissions authority, so you're downloading to the wrong person.

But we'd really rather be telling you that you did get the choice, it's just if 1500 parents apply and put a first preference for a school with 240 places, that's over 1000 disappointed and occasionally hysterical people.

ACA1402 · 02/03/2021 18:37

Hi,
Anyone here know Finchley Catholic High School, my son got in but we’re not certain if it is a good choice now.,

viques · 02/03/2021 18:13

@IndecentFeminist

We applied to our local school, having been told by all the schools that our primary was a feeder etc. Everyone from our area goes to this school. But surprise surprise, she didn't get in! I was shocked to begin with, and worried that DD would freak. She had severe anxiety early in primary school that led to school refusal and we eventually home edded for a few years as she couldn't cope. Going to the high school that she expected, with her peers was massively important.

However she's been fine about it! Massively underestimated her. We will be appealing as the local school is more successful academically, it is closer and easier logistically and her best best friend is going. I've approached the GP and home ed contact at the council for evidence of her previous anxiety, and head teacher will testify to it. But I feel much happier to see her excited about another school anyway. She's currently watching the other school's online open evening video.

Just a word of advice, don’t say the preferred school is “more academic” as it is unlikely to sit well with the appeals panel, they may after all have close connections with the school already offered. By all means say if the school offers a club in a subject your child excels in, or has a jazz orchestra if your child is musical, or offers a certain sport. You need to put forward positive reasons for your child to attend the preferred school, not seem to be making negative comments about the offered school. Nor will an easier journey cut much ice unless your child has a specific disability that makes travelling difficult.

Also check the reason why your dd has been refused a place, if all the other local children have been offered from a feeder school make sure an error hasn’t been made on distance.

Rainbowsparkle · 02/03/2021 17:55

We got our 6th choice 😭
Yet 15th on wait list for our first choice. I know last year up to 54 got a place so hoping this year is the same

SJaneS49 · 01/03/2021 21:42

@Cariocbirello, in Kent the scenario would be DC narrowly fails the 11+ and is offered their back up option (leafy state). Parents are heavily invested in the grammar system and appeal or go on grammar waiting list for a non Super Selective and get a last minute grammar place which they leap at, opening a last minute place at leafy state.

Scenario 2 is that child doesn’t quite make the mark for the preferred Super Selective and goes on the waitlist whilst accepting offered place at a ‘normal’ grammar. The parents of a child who does get a place at the Super Selective decide instead to go Private as class sizes are smaller and the facilities are perceived as better. A place opens up at the Super Selective which is taken by the waitlisted child, opening up a place at the ‘normal’ grammar.

SunnySpringDay · 01/03/2021 21:32

KGS is a great school too. Friends have children there and they're very happy. Obviously Tiffin is free!

Enoughisenough2021 · 01/03/2021 21:28

Tricky- we ended up sticking with our private option but that was partly due to location. Narrowing down on location with KGS v Tiffin doesn’t really work!

YellowOranges · 01/03/2021 21:24

@Enoughisenough2021@SunnySpringDay

Thank you! DS is super keen on KGS and we were wibbling about single sexed schools, but obviously the money aspect and academic rigour of Tiffin appeals. He's pretty easy going though so at least there isn't that pressure to contend with!

Meredusoleil · 01/03/2021 21:24

[quote ProfessorPootle]@Meredusoleil

It's a school in Surrey, is it the same do you think?[/quote]
Have sent you a PM. But its not Glenthorne as that comes under the London Borough of Sutton I believe.

Asiatarta · 01/03/2021 21:11

[quote ProfessorPootle]@Meredusoleil

It's a school in Surrey, is it the same do you think?[/quote]
Glenthorne?

JohnMiddleNameRedactedSwanson · 01/03/2021 21:00

How interesting. Thank you.

ProfessorPootle · 01/03/2021 20:53

@Meredusoleil

It's a school in Surrey, is it the same do you think?

ProfessorPootle · 01/03/2021 20:48

Also heard that more people have applied for private this year, we applied but had always planned to move to independent for secondary. All the schools we applied to said they had unprecedented numbers of applications this year, definitely some of that is down to people applying to more schools, so applying to 7-10 schools when in the past 4-5 was considered a lot! Also the new ISEB exam meant you sit one exam for multiple schools. From the letters we received from schools numbers were massively up though so definitely also lots applying that wouldn't normally have.

Meredusoleil · 01/03/2021 20:36

@ProfessorPootle

Just got text message at 8.16pm to say email has been sent, no sign of it in my inbox though! This area is rubbish. I managed to get online at about 6.30pm though after the site crashing in this area the whole afternoon/early evening and ds has his first choice. He took performing arts exams last year as their admissions criteria offers 10% of places on that basis to children who wouldn't get a place on distance (out of borough) 🎉
That is the same as the school my dd1 got a place at last year. I wonder if it's the exact same school? Can you say where it is if you don't want to say the name?
ProfessorPootle · 01/03/2021 20:24

Just got text message at 8.16pm to say email has been sent, no sign of it in my inbox though! This area is rubbish. I managed to get online at about 6.30pm though after the site crashing in this area the whole afternoon/early evening and ds has his first choice. He took performing arts exams last year as their admissions criteria offers 10% of places on that basis to children who wouldn't get a place on distance (out of borough) 🎉

Stokey · 01/03/2021 20:19

@JohnMiddleNameRedactedSwanson @louisejxxx anecdotally I have the impression that more people are applying for private. Similar reasons including more stability and better teaching during lockdown. But I'm in London and that may well be it's own microcosm. I also think the people who apply or are borderline for independents tend to be professionals who haven't been that affected financially by the pandemic.

SunnySpringDay · 01/03/2021 20:12

Tiffin and Tiffin Girls has brilliant online learning, so no problem there

ChildOfFriday · 01/03/2021 20:08

@IndecentFeminist

We applied to our local school, having been told by all the schools that our primary was a feeder etc. Everyone from our area goes to this school. But surprise surprise, she didn't get in! I was shocked to begin with, and worried that DD would freak. She had severe anxiety early in primary school that led to school refusal and we eventually home edded for a few years as she couldn't cope. Going to the high school that she expected, with her peers was massively important.

However she's been fine about it! Massively underestimated her. We will be appealing as the local school is more successful academically, it is closer and easier logistically and her best best friend is going. I've approached the GP and home ed contact at the council for evidence of her previous anxiety, and head teacher will testify to it. But I feel much happier to see her excited about another school anyway. She's currently watching the other school's online open evening video.

Is the primary school a feeder school on the written admissions criteria for the secondary school?

Also, make sure you are on the waiting list-it's possible you'll get a place through this before the appeal. Best of luck Smile

Longdistance · 01/03/2021 20:07

I work in a Prep school and we have been inundated with parents wanting to have a better education. They have seen what their school has offered is inadequate homeschooling and lessons online, some have offered very little, so we have had people calling enquiring.
The school is fairly full but some children naturally leave at Year 6 for state. No bigger numbers, but the the usual number that we have very year.
One private school that I had as a 'back up' for my dds is closing and two children were going there. They're just discussing if they are staying on or finding elsewhere.

IndecentFeminist · 01/03/2021 20:03

We applied to our local school, having been told by all the schools that our primary was a feeder etc. Everyone from our area goes to this school. But surprise surprise, she didn't get in! I was shocked to begin with, and worried that DD would freak. She had severe anxiety early in primary school that led to school refusal and we eventually home edded for a few years as she couldn't cope. Going to the high school that she expected, with her peers was massively important.

However she's been fine about it! Massively underestimated her. We will be appealing as the local school is more successful academically, it is closer and easier logistically and her best best friend is going. I've approached the GP and home ed contact at the council for evidence of her previous anxiety, and head teacher will testify to it. But I feel much happier to see her excited about another school anyway. She's currently watching the other school's online open evening video.

louisejxxx · 01/03/2021 19:58

@JohnMiddleNameRedactedSwanson

I’m curious to know if there are any early indications of more children applying for, and accepting, state school places this year as some of the economic effects of the pandemic are beginning to be felt?
I’ve actually got the impression it’s the opposite (particularly in relation to grammars) - I think in places where grammar tests were delayed, many more explored private school options in case 6 months of schooling put their children at a disadvantage so that there is a ready and waiting back-up option.

Also, I think many have seen how well many indies have done home schooling, and this has persuaded some to go down that route too.

SunnySpringDay · 01/03/2021 19:33

yelloworanges. The Tiffin wait lists do move quite a bit, so you never know. A good number of pupils offered will stick with their independent school.

Fingers crossed for you. My DS is there. It's a great school!