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AIBU to feel cheesed off that my son still does not have a school place for when they eventually open

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choosingcrumble · 12/02/2021 08:39

We've moved back to the UK and we applied for a school prior to moving. They sent the response to the wrong address so I only found out there was not a space when I chased them. I then quickly put in an application for the next nearest school on 17th December. I've still heard nothing. They are an academy. The council said they would chase them last week, still nothing. AIBU to think they at the very least they should have let me know if he has a place or not when they re-open again.
It is for a secondary school place. So sick of it. I get we are in the middle of the pandemic but surely, it isn't a big ask?

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cashooo · 12/02/2021 14:11

Mooncup it depends on the LA. In our county, all in year admissions go direct to the school, and they have to respond within five working days. The LA doesn't get involved at all unless the schools are all full and the parent can't find a space. So the PP might just be following the standard procedure in her area. And yes, in year admissions are always a priority, particularly when a child is not on any school roll so there could be safeguarding as well as educational concerns which are not being addressed.

NeverDropYourMoonCup · 12/02/2021 13:54

[quote choosingcrumble]@NeverDropYourMoonCup
I would have thought it would be a priority as he is 'missing in education'. He isn't registered as homeschooled nor registered with a school.[/quote]
Honestly? Compared to the thousand or so applications for 150 places that are required by law to be handled right now?

It can't be.

The local authority, however, would be able to allocate him somewhere. You just wouldn't be able to put him in the school of your choice - which presumably, is what you are trying as you're contacting the school directly (and perhaps completing a supplementary application form, which means they have additional admissions criteria?).

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 12/02/2021 13:53

I dont understand OP have the council told you this school is one which have spaces?

It sounds like you are trying to choose a preferred school that maybe doesnt have space. Its very poor that they are ignoring you, but I wonder if because they are full they simply arent expecting the council to direct any in-year applicants to them.

Have you asked the council which schools have places?

cashooo · 12/02/2021 13:29

Sorry, typo - prh47bridge

choosingcrumble · 12/02/2021 13:08

@NoIDontWatchLoveIsland
I'm not expecting him to be treated as a priority as a missing child and indeed he is in no way being treated as a priority. They simply don't care....because of Covid afterall. Apparently, they should reply within 20 school days, it is far more than that and nothing.

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choosingcrumble · 12/02/2021 13:05

I called the council and they didn't seem to care, just put it down to covid etc. One of them said I should go straight to the head and find out what is going on but I thought great, yeah, go and piss off one of the Admission people who will then make our life hell. No thanks.
The council has slopey shoulders as they just say it is down to the school. I'm not keen on the school either which already, the first contact with them makes me feel that they don't care.

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cashooo · 12/02/2021 12:55

Blimey, I'm appalled by this. I work in (primary) admissions and would always respond to an application within five school days, regardless of how busy I am! That's the requirement here, but I don't know if that's a national requirement or just my LA. It's also pretty poor of a school not to appreciate that this is really rather important to you!!

In your situation, I would be doorstepping the LA until they do something. I'm also tagging admission and phr47bridge in case they can provide specific advice on your area.

underneaththeash · 12/02/2021 12:17

Just keep calling OP, every day if necessary. Eventually you'll get through to someone.

RedGoldAndGreene · 12/02/2021 12:08

You are not unreasonable to start to feel antsy. It sounds like you applied for one school each time? It's normal to list 3 (6 if in London)

When I returned to the UK the council gave me a list of schools with spaces so I could make an application with high chance of success.

Sleepyblueocean · 12/02/2021 11:44

"The council have an obligation to provide an education place. I would call the council and find out where the spaces are and take it from there."

The council have an obligation to provide an education but that doesn't have to be a school place although for a child in mainstream yes there will usually be a school place somewhere.

Dishwashersaurous · 12/02/2021 11:38

Normally they can't try and find a place until you are actually resident in the council area. December is only two months so not actually that long.

You need to phone and find out where has a place available irrespective of your preference

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 12/02/2021 11:38

OP have you rung the council and asked which local schools have space? In almost all local authorities there will be one less popular school with space. Its likely to be a poorer performing school and not the one you would choose but that's the reality of in year admissions. Then you can go on a waiting list for a school you prefer. The fact that he is not in education won't make him magically a priority for a better school, it means he will get offered a place in any school with space and there may not be much choice.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 12/02/2021 11:13

Have you tried phoning them? It is a very busy time for secondary admissions generally but i would except them to tell you very quickly which schools have Y8 places.

JollyGreenGiantess · 12/02/2021 10:51

Would be worth moving to Secondary Education board and tagging @admissions and the brilliant experts that give advice there.

choosingcrumble · 12/02/2021 10:41

@NeverDropYourMoonCup
I would have thought it would be a priority as he is 'missing in education'. He isn't registered as homeschooled nor registered with a school.

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NeverDropYourMoonCup · 12/02/2021 10:37

[quote choosingcrumble]@NeverDropYourMoonCup
This is for an in year admission.[/quote]
Yes, I saw that. What I meant is that the Admissions Manager is quite likely rather busy right now with a timescale determined by law, so an in year admission that isn't governed by the same restrictions is likely to be lower on the list of priorities than the 1000 other applications they have to handle.

ladyvimes · 12/02/2021 10:24

It took me a year to get my daughter into our catchment school when we moved. I would apply to more than one school to be honest and then put him on the waiting list for your preferred school.

Autumn101 · 12/02/2021 10:23

I think it was called a Fair Access Panel - for children who had no school place

Autumn101 · 12/02/2021 10:22

Unfortunately it does take time - we moved back to UK last summer. I applied at end of June for places for my two but we didn’t get a place until end of September. My eldest is year 8 and his took longer as all the schools in a reasonable distance were full so it had to go to a panel where the council made a decision (we were lucky and he got our local school).

It’s very frustrating but all I can recommend is keep ringing the council and chasing it up, be polite but firm.

choosingcrumble · 12/02/2021 10:20

@NeverDropYourMoonCup
This is for an in year admission.

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choosingcrumble · 12/02/2021 10:18

@Nith
I didn't appeal as there have been numerous appeals for the oversubscribed school and no one has won.

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NeverDropYourMoonCup · 12/02/2021 10:15

It doesn't take months for admissions outside the usual phase transfer round

But dealing with the usual phase transfer round does become a full time job whilst it's happening.

choosingcrumble · 12/02/2021 10:14

@mootymoo
We've been resident here since the beginning of December, I applied in October but the refusal from the first school was sent to the wrong address. I found this out on 17th December and applied to a different school the same day.

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choosingcrumble · 12/02/2021 10:13

We've been here since December and resident here. He is Year 8

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PhillipPhillop · 12/02/2021 09:57

Yes, what year are you applying for and are you now resident in the UK?

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