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Tell me about Citizenship GCSE. Which is apparently compulsory at my DD's school. She doesn't want to do it.

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bellinisurge · 28/01/2021 10:44

As it says in the subject, Citizenship GCSE has now been deemed compulsory at my DD's school. She would prefer to do Triple Science but doesn't want to lose a free space in her GSCE options to do it. She deliberately didn't go to a faith school (despite being in a feeder primary) to avoid having RE GCSE forced on her.
Any suggestions?

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bellinisurge · 30/01/2021 22:09

Apology not accepted. A personal sneery attack on my daughter is out of order. I'll leave the thread to you and your queen bee mates.
I will, of course, check whether English is one or two GSCEs. In the meantime, I hope nobody is as horrible to your child.

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Frodont · 30/01/2021 22:05

@MrsAvocet

3 separate sciences are compulsory for GCSE at my children's state school Ginfordinner apart from for the lowest set who do double science. It's not that unusual is it? I can only think of one school in our area that offers solely double science.
Triple science is normal, three separate science gcses aren't (here anyway)
Frodont · 30/01/2021 22:04

I'm sorry if you think I was being nasty.

I was trying to point out that there are other things your dd could give up so she has room to take the academic subjects you said she should be taking rather than Citizenship. The fact is, if she does the gcses she wants, plus one single English gcse, which I am presuming is English Language, these are not academic choices. This is why some schools let able pupils down - by not steering them down an academic route at gcse level. Her choices at gcse and a single English gcse will hold her back more than Citizenship Gcse!

bellinisurge · 30/01/2021 21:54

I have reported your revolting post . Enough of this nasty shit.

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MrsAvocet · 30/01/2021 21:51

3 separate sciences are compulsory for GCSE at my children's state school Ginfordinner apart from for the lowest set who do double science. It's not that unusual is it? I can only think of one school in our area that offers solely double science.

bellinisurge · 30/01/2021 21:43

"So only english language, Citizenship, business studies and dt gcses? This is not sounding like the cv of an academic child."

Well, aren't you nice?

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NovemberR · 30/01/2021 20:28

If you are interested in knowing what's involved in GCSE Citizenship I imagine checking the school website will give you the exam board they use. You can then download the spec from there which will allow you to see what is covered and required.

My DS is at a school where Business Studies was compulsory. They didn't want to do that, either. Nor the French he was forced to take.

It is what it is.

Ginfordinner · 30/01/2021 20:27

@DoubleTweenQueen

DD making her options choices at the moment - it's usual in her school for the three sciences to be considered compulsory, but there is apparently lee- way for someone who feels strongly and wants to drop a science in favour of another subject. So for example she could request to drop Physics for another option subject - a second language perhaps. This flexibility is not widely understood, but there nonetheless. If your daughter feels strongly about a subject, could she not put her preferences forward? It's a timetabling thing - doable in a larger school? Never heard of Citizenship as a GCSE - it's not May Curriculum in UK, is it?
Is this a private school?

At state schools double science still covers biology, chemistry and physics, but less content than triple science.

DoubleTweenQueen · 30/01/2021 20:24

*National Curriculum, not May

DoubleTweenQueen · 30/01/2021 20:24

In short, I would push back to school on your child's preferences.

DoubleTweenQueen · 30/01/2021 20:22

DD making her options choices at the moment - it's usual in her school for the three sciences to be considered compulsory, but there is apparently lee- way for someone who feels strongly and wants to drop a science in favour of another subject. So for example she could request to drop Physics for another option subject - a second language perhaps. This flexibility is not widely understood, but there nonetheless. If your daughter feels strongly about a subject, could she not put her preferences forward? It's a timetabling thing - doable in a larger school? Never heard of Citizenship as a GCSE - it's not May Curriculum in UK, is it?

Frodont · 30/01/2021 20:08

So only english language, Citizenship, business studies and dt gcses? This is not sounding like the cv of an academic child.

Ginfordinner · 30/01/2021 18:41

@SusannaSpider

How can English be 1 GCSE

Ours only offers Lit if you pass Eng Lang. They sit language early. It pissed me off as I really feel English benefits from maturity and having a summer born child sitting it early is a disadvantage.

I agree.
SusannaSpider · 30/01/2021 18:25

How can English be 1 GCSE

Ours only offers Lit if you pass Eng Lang. They sit language early. It pissed me off as I really feel English benefits from maturity and having a summer born child sitting it early is a disadvantage.

clary · 30/01/2021 18:17

Wait what? They don't offer English lit GCSE? And you are worrying about citizenship?

I would be amazed if that's true actually op, so I would certainly check. If they don't offer Eng lit I would certainly look at moving. No English lit GCSE totally closes the door to Eng A level, and I would argue it makes MFL A level much harder too.

Completelyunassertive · 30/01/2021 17:47

OP, at the school my children go to, they offer some GCSEs with classes after school to enable those that want to to take an extra gcse or squeeze in another subject that can't be fitted into their timetable. They may offer this at your DDs school so she could, say, do the triple science in regular school time and something like History or Economics as the after school option.

TwelvePaws · 30/01/2021 17:36

I’m very aware the thread will have moved on but I still can’t get over someone saying

titchy is a well respected poster, no need to be rude to her.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Fucking hell ! It’s a bloody forum.

Tw1nset · 30/01/2021 17:31

They should be doing PSHE anyway and so should not be losing curriculum time.

Tw1nset · 30/01/2021 17:29

Citizenship is not RE!

Ginfordinner · 30/01/2021 17:07

@bellinisurge

English is one GCSE at her school
Are you sure? What examination board is it? I thought that English language and English literature were compulsory at all schools in England.

If the school really does only offer English language I would seriously consider moving schools.

LittleBearPad · 30/01/2021 17:05

I wouldn’t bother with business studies.

The curriculum for citizenship sounds really interesting.

marshmallowfluffy · 30/01/2021 17:05

@bellinisurge

English is one GCSE at her school
You should be far more concerned about this. This would be a massive deal breaker. My kids studied for 2 English GCSEs in their English lessons.
MrsAvocet · 30/01/2021 16:54

The more you say bellinisurge the more I think I would be looking at another school.
Is only English language being offered? That, along with limited options for Science and not having a choice of which MFL to study would bother me far more than the Citizenship issue.
What is the 6th form provision like? Are there similar limitations around A level choices? I know it would be quite disruptive to change schools at this point, but if you have other possibilities locally it might be worth at least exploring them.

Wavingnotdrown1ng · 30/01/2021 16:53

‘English’ is two separate GCSEs at all English schools- it’s just that schools almost always call it ‘English’ on their timetables in Yrs 9-11, rather than using the separate subject-titles. Since 2017 and the reformed GCSEs in England, virtually all students have taken GCSEs in both because of the Progress 8 parameters and how the league tables are constructed.

HercwasanEnemyofEducation · 30/01/2021 16:52

I'd be outraged about English being one too. We have a minority that only do language, for their benefit tbh! Academic students should definitely be doing both.

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