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Part 2: SW London Girl's Indies 11+ Pandemic Panic!

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MumsRule20 · 13/01/2021 17:42

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/secondary/3962084-Upcoming-girls-independent-SW-London-schools-11-exams?pg=40

Hello all, this thread continues from the previous "Upcoming Girl's Independent SW London Schools 11+ Exams" thread set up by @Oceane11Plus.

@PatoPato cleverly noticed, message slots were running low for the epic long thread as above, so all chat now continues here...

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WFHWTF · 22/01/2021 16:07

[quote PatoPato]This is the video transcript of the Atom ISEB seminar which some might be of interest for anyone going through this next year. Attendees were sent the link afterwards.
vimeo.com/468916518[/quote]
@PatoPato Thank you, that's really useful!

dazedandconfused11plus · 22/01/2021 16:07

Thanks everyone for your helpful comments. @PatoPato you crack me up Grin

Trialsat11 · 22/01/2021 15:53

@dazedandconfused11plus sorry about your experience . I can tell you for sure that WHS is a firm believer of selecting girls who are humble and don't overpower .That was the only advice given by our prep school for the WHS creative assessment .
They would have definitely noticed the quieter ones as well

PatoPato · 22/01/2021 15:42

@dazedandconfused11plus - the Alpha in our exercise dominated proceedings too but didn't manage to solve the puzzles, DD did. The role of the observer is surely to pick up on this - I'm counting on it!

There was also a lot of 'hyperconscious to demonstration of teamwork’ in our group too - you put into words what I was eye rolling about. It just didn't feel that natural to me but then we don't watch lots of American motivational tv in this household. Some of the word choices in the first section had me sniggering. DD chose her own selfish word then was a bit shame faced having to explain why. She was never going to 'grow' Wink. These are woke times our daughters are growing up in but I find some of it hard to swallow

Yossahughes · 22/01/2021 15:31

@stircrazyschoolmum and @warmandco3y I think wine o’clock might be early tonight!!! 🥂

@dazedandconfused11plus I totally sympathise with your DD - an assessment like that is not suitable for all personalities and doesn’t give everyone a chance to shine like a 1:1 interview. However the loud ones can sometimes come across badly for being too overbearing as well....it’s difficult to “be yourself” and get the balance right...but at the same time a school needs all types of personalities so there shouldn’t really be a right or wrong way to behave. I hope the school are perceptive enough to work that out.

dazedandconfused11plus · 22/01/2021 15:24

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WarmAndco3y · 22/01/2021 15:11

Well done to your DD @Yossahughes, I’m not sure who is more excited 😛 you or her Grin

It’s nice when you can tell they feel well about themselves and they’ve had a good time. Hoping for good news all round.

Stircrazyschoolmum · 22/01/2021 14:20

Well done @Yossahughes! I’m glad she enjoyed it. Weirdly it’s increased DD’s liking of the school - she thought the teachers were really kind.

What time does ‘evening’ start?!? GrinGrinGrin

Lilly21 · 22/01/2021 12:56

Does the CHS send the offer letter and the bursary letter separately? I received the offer letter but it doesn’t have anything about the bursary we applied, does it mean that our bursary application got rejected?

PatoPato · 22/01/2021 12:49

This is the video transcript of the Atom ISEB seminar which some might be of interest for anyone going through this next year. Attendees were sent the link afterwards.
vimeo.com/468916518

PatoPato · 22/01/2021 12:45

@WFHWTF L. Rognoni at Atom provided me with these in October. I felt they looked a little low at the time but I was more interested in the differential.
St Paul's is not the Girls' School nor is City CLGS - that line on the link you provided refers to the boys' schools. They split the schools in a similar way in their seminar

WFHWTF · 22/01/2021 12:31

@PatoPato Interesting. Maybe some of those CAT scores have changed (in terms of Atom scores)? If you click on this link you see the suggested CAT/Atom scores required for various schools. E.g. CAT of 128 for St Paul's (6-8 less on Atom), City 125 and Godolphin 129. Assuming scholarships only awarded for those with 135+?? atomlearning.co.uk/advice

Yossahughes · 22/01/2021 12:28

We are done done done!!! Yipee!! DD just came out of the WHS assessment and was buzzing with excitement - she really enjoyed herself. I decided not to eavesdrop as I probably wouldn’t have had a clue what was going on. There were 5 girls in the group so not too overwhelming and plenty of opportunities to speak - although she did say that one girl didn’t say a single word throughout the whole 45 minutes which is quite sad and shows that this sort of assessment doesn’t suit everyone.

WarmAndco3y · 22/01/2021 12:13

We have a ring doorbell. So can see what’s happening and communicate with vendors via the app. It also records activity so you can view the history
I just flick on it every so often while I’m in bed feeling sorry for myself
I’m just glad DD is oblivious to the fact that this letter has been posted. We were not expecting the results until February

Stircrazyschoolmum · 22/01/2021 12:04

GWS @WarmAndco3y I’m not sure I know what a phone ring app is? Perhaps I need one for 11th!!

WarmAndco3y · 22/01/2021 11:49

No postie yet. Usually comes around 11:30, but no sign yet, today, typically. Hmm
Feeling a bit under the weather today, so I’m stalking him on my phone ring app.

Yes, all the best to everyone expecting to hear from Alleyn’s today.

11th Feb is main results day for us too. And then grammar allocations 1st of March, I believe

Lockdown2021 · 22/01/2021 11:27

Most schools have a strict ranking according to test results and the interviews I believe are to rule out anyone who isn’t a good fit. A couple of years ago DD was asked at interview what school her elder sibling went to. She answered honestly that it was their nearest rival school (both GDST). I thought an offer was unlikely but she did get one, which we turned down for the rival school Smile

Stircrazyschoolmum · 22/01/2021 11:24

WHS done! I tried not to listen too much but they sounded like a very nice group, no tech issues. Well balanced discussion and no one ‘taking over’. DD said ‘I wish all my lessons were like that!’

@WarmAndco3y has your post been?!
@Tr0ubled and @LittleBlackBear, yes, it’s going to be a long day! I’m not holding out much hope as the odds are literally halved when it’s coed.. fortunately not our favourite so the pressures off.

@Trialsat11 we had an email from WHS this morning stating there were tech issues yesterday. I wonder if they will have to run some mop up sessions next week? If you are worried I’d email them..

Hope everyone else is doing ok.. is results day 11 Feb for most folk? Seems an age away!!

LittleBlackBear · 22/01/2021 10:35

@Tr0ubled good luck hearing today 🤞🏼Agree it is going to be a long day! The Registrar clearly said she’d email this evening....

Yossahughes · 22/01/2021 09:49

@flossietea maybe I am reading too much into it - I had always thought it was urban myth that they asked kids what their first choice school was and where else they had applied so I was just a bit surprised that they would waste time in a short interview talking about it. I was probably also thinking about how cagey the headmistress was when asked about how many offers were made.... Oh well, I guess we will have to wait and see how it all pans out in February!

Flossietea · 22/01/2021 09:17

@yossahughes LEH didn’t ask my daughter anything about other schools/interviews so I don’t think there’s a deliberate campaign to try and divine preferences. Your dd’s interviewer must just have picked that to chat about.
My DD’s interview was a pretty wide-ranging conversation from reading to hobbies to what makes a good learner. It didn’t seem structured at all. There was one bit at the end about Theseus’ Ship which thankfully we’ve talked about before so she had things to say about it!

Trialsat11 · 22/01/2021 09:10

@Yossahughes I wouldn’t read too much into that as LEH already asked upfront in the application form about other schools . Also , there were no direct questions asking the priority which points to more about it being a normal icebreaker . It is quite difficult to gauge but I think they will still b looking at the cumulative total of the entrance test , reference and interview

Yossahughes · 22/01/2021 08:49

@trialsat11 you are probably right....which is quite hard on the girls as if they don’t get picked then they will be left to think that their personality is lacking. Coming to think about it, the one area of the interview were they pushed quite hard was trying to find out (in a roundabout way) what other schools she had interviewed with....I.e. you must be getting quite good at interviews now...how many have you had? Etc They are clearly also using it as an opportunity to gauge the likelihood of a girls accepting a place so they can get their offer numbers right..

Trialsat11 · 22/01/2021 08:45

@Yossahughes I got the impression that they have already made a list based on the entrance test scores and the interview was more to assess the values and personality of the girl . Quite unlike what I had heard of the LEH interviews from before ..

Yossahughes · 22/01/2021 07:56

@trialsat11 I thought the LEH interview was very short and straightforward too - I am wondering how they will ever be able to differentiate between the girls and if so, on what basis?