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Is this a poor combination of A levels

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Comefromaway · 06/11/2020 13:20

English Lit
Drama
Film Studies

Child thinks she would like to be a drama teacher in the future. Doesn't like maths & science. Is very hard working but has no confidence in her abilities. GCSE predictions 4/5 in sciences 6/7 in maths & language 7/8 in English & essay subjects. Doing history GCSE but doesn't enjoy it. Gets very anxious about not being good enough.

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ChaosContinues · 10/11/2020 11:02

Essay not easy 🙄

ChaosContinues · 10/11/2020 11:02

She's an A*/A student in English and easy subjects from OPs original post.
Another essay subject instead of film studies?
Just to keep options open?
Is she going to a college where she can start on 4 and then drop one in L6?

MrsMiaWallis · 10/11/2020 10:58

That sounds like an absolutely fine combination of A levels to me!

ilovesushi · 10/11/2020 10:55

Not sure what people have against film studies. They sound like a complimentary selection which reflect her interests and ambitions.

TheSunIsStillShining · 09/11/2020 10:21

Thank you for the clarification.

PresentingPercy · 09/11/2020 09:59

My DDs went to an independent school with drama scholars. It took drama very seriously and still does. Girls got excellent grades in drama because it was very well taught. It frequently isn’t well taught in schools because it’s not seen as a worthy subject. All DDs drama teachers had professional acting experience. They taught drama because they had moved on from their stage career. The Head of Drama possibly didn’t act professionally but the whole team were amazing. So the best jobs are in the independent schools I think. Facilities are better and dc don’t mess about so much. If you have schools that know the time of day re drama then why not ask them about subject combinations for drama/teaching degrees? I do know lots of DDs did English lit and Drama A level at DDs old school but they didn’t offer Film. So girls would have done a more diverse third A level. However girls went to Cambridge to do English with a Drama A level as well. It complements very well. I cannot see what’s wrong with film for her career choice.

Comefromaway · 09/11/2020 09:47

@TheSunIsStillShining

Can I piggyback and have a question on a tangent?

Are kids actually learning non selected subjects (in this case science, math,etc) between gcse and A levels? Or after Gcse it's only their selected subjects?

Some colleges (such as the one my son attends) include Core maths and literacy as part of their programme but most places don't.

In practice due to covid measures this hasn;t actually happened this academic year.

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TeenPlusTwenties · 09/11/2020 09:37

TheSun After GCSE it is only their selected subjects. (So in England most children stop Maths after GCSE.)

(Scotland have a different system or 'Highers' that I don't know about.)

TheSunIsStillShining · 09/11/2020 09:34

Can I piggyback and have a question on a tangent?

Are kids actually learning non selected subjects (in this case science, math,etc) between gcse and A levels? Or after Gcse it's only their selected subjects?

MarchingFrogs · 09/11/2020 09:14

Drama is being forced out of lots of state schools as well.

Probably dying through lack of demand, because people get helpful advice about the Kimpton Fitzroy London Group not rating those sort of A levels...?

Comefromaway · 09/11/2020 09:05

I said further up the threat that she is not my daughter but a young girl known to our family who looks to us for advice

My dh and dd teach/study musical theatre not straight acting and dd is not interested in school teaching. Dd went to a vocational school with a very limited range of A level options alongside a professional diploma and ds is following a music btec route. I know about the options for those wanting to pursue a professional performing career but I never even knew that Film Studies existed as an A level.

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PresentingPercy · 09/11/2020 08:55

They are not abandoned! The word facilitating has been dropped but not the thinking behind having the right academic subjects for competitive courses. It’s incorrect to say that all subjects are equal. They are not. Look at what Cambridge university says about choosing A level subjects and you will see that some are better prep than others for academic courses. They do, in fact, list the “facilitating” subjects! So, no, they are not dropped and any person advising an academic young person should know this. As far as the OP’s DD is concerned, I think her choices are fine.

However op, I’m amazed you’ve started this thread. Your DH teaches in a drama school. Your other DD is studying in one. So you really do know all about studying drama. Your school options have dc that have followed this route. So cannot see that most people on here know more than you! So I’d just stay with her choices! As I said earlier, English Lit and Drama go together very well and Film is just fine for her ambitions which fit in with your family talents!

ShipOfTheseus · 08/11/2020 23:25

@nostaples

Facilitating subjects are only relevant if she is going to be applying to a RG university/ Oxbridge. Plus Eng Lit is facilitating. The comments about Film Studies are pure snobbery. If she likes it, she will do well in it. These subjects are fine for Drama teaching, although why not drama?
No such thing as facilitating subjects any more. They were abandoned last year.
nostaples · 08/11/2020 22:50

Oh, sorry she's got drama.

nostaples · 08/11/2020 22:49

Facilitating subjects are only relevant if she is going to be applying to a RG university/ Oxbridge. Plus Eng Lit is facilitating. The comments about Film Studies are pure snobbery. If she likes it, she will do well in it. These subjects are fine for Drama teaching, although why not drama?

diddlediddle · 08/11/2020 18:41

The grades she will get are more important than the subjects.

If she will get an A in film studies but a C in history for example, she should definitely take film studies.

Comefromaway · 08/11/2020 18:32

Schools in our area don’t have 6th forms. Both local colleges have a lot of experience in students gong in to both universities & drama schools although the majority of drama school applicants would be doing significant amounts out of school.

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Comefromaway · 08/11/2020 18:30

She doesn’t want drama school. But if she did my dh lectures at one & my dd is currently studying at one. And I know her through a local youth theatre.

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PresentingPercy · 08/11/2020 17:37

If is worth saying that because a few students get into over subscribed courses with what appears to be a less academic set of A levels, you cannot say everyone will. There are always outliers.

Eng Lit and Drama always go well together. Film studies won’t matter for drama course at university. The top drama schools want you to audition. Drama at lots of universities isn’t hugely competitive. So I would consider how she will get performance experience and does the school have any experience in preparing DC for auditions? This is key if she wants a drama school.

Also don’t forget a lot of drama “teachers“ are actors. They just don’t get paid for acting any more. Drama is being forced out of lots of state schools as well.

NotDonna · 07/11/2020 09:55

You’re offering great advice and support and seem to know where her strengths lie. She needs to work to those strengths and those subject choices do exactly that. I wouldn’t be concerned about a lack of passion as there’s very few 15 year old who are passionate about a subject. An interest/strength is enough. Good luck to her!!

daisypond · 07/11/2020 08:03

She's a 'B' grade GCSE student though, who gets anxious about her academic ability. Why would you think she'd be aiming for high offer competitive courses? OP those subjects are fine. If she was aiming for English at Bristol then they wouldn't be, but I'd guess she'll be aiming for somewhere less competitive that asks for B or C grade A levels.

There’s so much misinformation here. A friend went to Bristol to read English with A levels in English, Drama and Art, for one. Of course subjects like that are fine. And my DC, a B grade GSCE student, is at a top RG university with the A levels I mentioned - Media Studies, Photography and Sociology. Got two As and a B at A level.
Don’t believe the hype that private schools/ grammar schools tell you about how hard it is to get in anywhere good.

daisypond · 07/11/2020 07:52

The subjects are fine. There are no such things as facilitating subjects any more. Universities will say if they have preferred subjects.
If it helps, one of mine did Photography, Media Studies and Sociology at A level and is now at an RG university.

pink1173 · 07/11/2020 07:45

I did similar- English lit, Drama and Media Studies. No problems with Uni places and am a very successful English and Drama teacher. With A levels you need to do subjects you enjoy.

Cheesypea · 07/11/2020 07:31

I did film studies 100 years ago. Back then it was a critical thinking course, similar to English lit.

MarchingFrogs · 07/11/2020 07:26

she doesn't have a real passion for anything but she does enjoy literature and drama.

There would seem to be the answer, then.

And as for the three subjects being 'samey', more so than Maths, FM and Physics as a combination...? Really?