Trinity/Whitgift 2021 entry

i can only say from a sports scholarship.. different days for interview and sports trial based on sport. W know who they want and will offer anywhere from 10-50% scholarships…
Good luck !

In my son's year there are c. 15 purely academic scholars, rather than all-rounders which also includes an academic element.
I think there are two 50% scholars and one 30% and the rest are lower amounts but not sure on the amounts for those.

@Hantsmum123 I wish I cld give concrete numbers on academic scholarships. My son got one but we turned it down. They stressed it was very special, rare. It would have been 50% off fees.

FWIW At his current school, four boys got academic scholarships (he was one of them) and since they’re named scholarships, I don’t think they ever “over offer” these scholarships. Nominal amounts off at his current school tho (a few hundred quid)…

Does anyone have an idea of the number of academic scholarships given to boys at 11 plus at Whitgift. There were approx 100 in the scholarship day today. Seems like a lot for a handful of spaces

Hi, T def has. My DS did the sport and the art scholarship. They are on different days and a whole day/half a day sorts of thing. As far as I know for academic there was no separate interview. I know whomever I talked to parents that during interview they all received academy questions as well. (My DS got maths question, but I his class mate got English one fore example) my DS is now Y9 at T. Good luck, and well done for getting to this stage, it’s already great to reach interview stage.

Hiya! I only know from a sports scholarship perspective - they have separate days for the students being considered there. As far as I remember there was some chat about the academic students being seen by different teachers for interviews but I don’t know for sure sorry!! Good luck!

If anyone on this thread is still active. Can I ask whether T or W hold separate interviews for scholarships at 11 plus or if it is a standard interview. Ie how can you tell if you are being considered for one?

Grandson entered Whitgift Sept 2020 he was awarded a sports scholarship 10+.He is an accadamy footballer with a premiership club, and a County sprinter so that help him get in.

It looks like the boy would have joined year 6 in 2013 at the latest. I'm sorry that what should have been a great start to secondary school was so poor for this boy. I feel for him and his parents.

As someone has said, this will have happened under the old Headmaster. I don't know if things were different then but I don't recognise this description as how Whitgift is now. I am certain that if my son was accused of any such misdemeanours that the school would come down on him hard, and that I would be contacted too. My DS would absolutely come to understand that a line had been crossed and it would not be tolerated.

I don't recognise the implication that wealth/class is an issue. My son went into Yr7 from a state school. We're not posh and it has never been an issue. With a wide bursary scheme and generous scholarships, there is a range of students. I don't know much about my son's friends' backgrounds but some live in expensive areas, some live on council estates. He sees them as equals with popularity based on who has made the most recent funny joke - high brow it isn't.

The hockey support is great. My state school son has had to work hard to progress because the Year 6s had such good training before he arrived in Yr7. He's been really encouraged and motivated. I can't imagine that any of the staff there now would say such things as in the article and especially not in front of parents.

Clearly something went very wrong and it is tragic. There is another article about a different boy that usually gets shared at this point in the admissions cycle. I wonder if a new Headteacher has brought in a very different style. Whitgift wasn't our first choice initially as, for us, it had a certain reputation but when we got to know the school it wasn't like that at all.

Incidentally, the W article was also written before the arrival of Mr Ramsey as Head. It dates back to 2017 but my understanding is that the alleged incidents (which are incredibly sad to read) happened back in 2015. It’s a big school but they have a really strong anti Bullying policy and strong pastoral care. I can’t comment what it was like in 2015 because we were not parents at the school back then. The Sports teachers are really supportive and I cannot believe the “hockey incident” described in the article could happen now. I speak from the personal experience of DC who started in the F rugby Team and who throughout the years has managed to move up the ranks thanks for the support of the coaches who encouraged him not to give up.

I don’t mean in any way to dismiss this incredibly sad story, but I honestly think that if you Google enough you could find a story about every single school you look into.

Jimmy Leach wrote about this in June 2015 - he doesn't say when his son attended the school but he had already moved to a new school by that point

About whitgift's, not Dulwich.
The saddest thing for me is that that post could have been written about my 'exclusive' school 27 years ago - I find it incredible that the same victim blaming culture can still prevail at schools in 2021, plus the bullies' work is now enhanced by the use of social media against the victims, so their victims also have to contend with that, on top of the daily or termly nightmare of attending school.

That’s heartbreaking to read! Which thread is that in?

Just read this on the very disturbing thread about Dulwich College.

medium.com/@JimmyTLeach/bullying-happens-when-the-school-is-the-enabler-cac27010c4f5

Yes maybe @Walkingtheplank, although this was for entry into the current year, not for Sept 2021.

Perhaps Trinity are looking to compete more with Whitgift, which I perceive to have a better sporting record.
Perhaps the scholarships are to tempt boys who otherwise would have gone to Whitgift.
(I dont mean any offence by that)

Whitgift certainly has hockey trials around October time before January exams. I think scholarships can be offered at that point subject to exam result.

Yes @chalkyc2 that will be it. They did the same for other sports/clubs too and did some weekend talent spotting. After watching sessions, they approached boys for entry in Y6, Y7 plus some older years - all with sport scholarships in mind.

I think I know what @Trampoline is referring to - we had a note from Trinity distributed at my DS (county) cricket group encouraging applicants around October last year - never seen that before - so one could assume maybe there had been fewer sports scholarship applications for 2021 at that point than usual.

As far as I know there hasn't been a reduced intake into 1st year - I say that as a current parent whose DS2 is also joining.

It's possible the ISEB didn't work in all ten boys favour - it's just been a tricky year for everyone

Thanks everyone for this useful info, as I suspected. There must have been reduced numbers in the current y7 year at T, I'd assumed due to the current unusual times.

I don't mean to sound a kill joy, but Ive not heard anything about covid reducing intake - quite the opposite in fact (people not happy with state provision of home schooling) -- or about these schools seeking out sports scholars. I also question if a boy weren't academic, if it would be the right school for them. Like said above, I'd be surprised if T would offer a place based on sports ability over academic.
Re getting a place at grammar but not T or W, or vise versa, unfortunately a lot is simply down to how your child does on the day.

Traditionally I'd say T has had a harder English exam - slightly surprised that some applicants didn't get T when they got grammars but this would be my only explanation.
Obviously that all went out the window this year with the ISEB.
The scholarship assessments only come after you've passed the exam so you can't be considered for it until you've done that.
Is your DS national or county level - I'd say that would be the requirement for a good scholarship in sports

@Trampoline - we applied to Trinity last yr - I think in our experience the answer is just being sporty is not enough. My son got offers from several selective schools and a grammar offer however only got a waitlist place at trinity even after attending the main and then the second stage sports scholarship assessments. At the first stage sports assessments there were around 175 boys! That cut down to I believe 40-50 at second stage. I even had a weird chat after stage 2 with one of the teachers who seemed to be hinting heavily that DS had done really well!! He got an offer with sports scholarship at another (closer and preferred) school so we accepted that readily and didn't wait to see how the waitlist panned out.

I'm not sure where you're based but Colfes and St Dunstans both offer sports scholarships and are great but slightly less competitive schools.

Hi there. As there are some current Whitgift/Trinity parents on here I'd love your perspective. I have a sporty y4 boy who is not particularly academic and I don't think would pass selective entry. Are you aware of any scenarios where a boy's sporting potential has outweighed the academics? I suspect not, but the reason I ask is that I know that once the 2020-21 academic year started, these schools were actively seeking sports scholars (perhaps because Covid factors had reduced the year group size). I know these are selective schools so it might seem like a daft question, but I wondered if there are average ability boys who receive places. Any other school suggestions which could fit the bill (in SW London) would be most appreciated! Thank you.