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Could the 11+ exam be delayed again?

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Sarjest · 18/09/2020 15:09

We're back in lockdown and I'm sure other areas will be following shortly. The 11+ has already been postponed once and as far as I know, it has been delayed throughout England. Could it be moved back again? I can't see any other arrangements being acceptable.

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Sarjest · 24/09/2020 16:34

I wish ours had just gone ahead with it, Josh! It would have been over this weekend. The tutors are prioritising this year's cohort so next year's have less time.

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JoshLymanIsHotterThanSam · 24/09/2020 15:51

Birmingham got it sorted. My DS sat his on the 12th. They just had 2 separate sittings instead of one-so half in morning half in afternoon (done alphabetically on surname)

shaddupayouface · 24/09/2020 11:54

We're live in Kent too although our DS goes to a school in Surrey so he will be taking the test at a yet to be advised centre on a Saturday. I had a letter from KCC saying they had received 6,000 out of county applications to take the kent test and it was going to be a mammoth task to find suitable testing sites with current covid restrictions so they asked us to let them know if we change our mind about sitting it. We visited Skinners School yesterday and the Transition Manager said she had received a letter that day from KCC setting out the arrangements so we should hear within the next week I think.

Quartz2208 · 22/09/2020 19:01

They just say only go through to the second stage if they get the minimum required pass mark for stage 1. No mention of what that would be

The pass mark for the second stage changes and doesnt mean entry anyway

Cookerhood · 22/09/2020 18:55

@Quartz2208

Yes DDs school is now the 11th 1st Stage and 2nd Stage 28th Nov - the girls and boys are aligned with the second stage for the first time ever

I do wonder if the pass mark for the 2nd stage will be higher than it was in previous years to cut down on those needing to go on a Saturday.

Legally this would only be possible if it fits with their published admissions process
Quartz2208 · 22/09/2020 10:45

Yes DDs school is now the 11th 1st Stage and 2nd Stage 28th Nov - the girls and boys are aligned with the second stage for the first time ever

I do wonder if the pass mark for the 2nd stage will be higher than it was in previous years to cut down on those needing to go on a Saturday.

ProperlyPdOff · 22/09/2020 10:40

I know it is too late and already organised, but with all the social distancing and bubbles, how can having so many children from different schools and areas in one room for a relatively long period be considered safe?

BunsyGirl · 21/09/2020 16:10

Ours has been delayed until 7 and 9 November. I am worried what is going to happen if there is another lockdown. It is now also in the same week as the entrance exams for the selective independent school that my DS is currently at and where he hopes to stay if he doesn’t go to grammar. We are applying for a scholarship so it’s important that he does well and I am worried that it’s going to be very stressful for him.

middleager · 21/09/2020 07:54

Our area has had theirs (Birmingham) at the usual secondary school test centres This was last weekend.

BernardsarenotalwaysSaints · 21/09/2020 07:52

I hope not. I don't think dd will take well to it being pushed back again. Our is meant to be happening in November so 2 months late as it is.

We've had to do secondary applications the old fashioned way, GS first the S (we've been given an extra, 7th choice, for this).

When I was y6 we took it just after Easter then you found out your score just before Whitsun break & found out which school you'd got in to the 1st week of June.

steppemum · 21/09/2020 07:46

It is really hard to chaneg admission procedures though, as they are a legal process.
So they will do their best to have minumal changes.

Sarjest · 20/09/2020 19:13

We are being allowed to change the CAF form after submission until December if an 11+ result isn’t what was expected/ hoped for. We only get three choices but if my DD doesn’t do well in the two tests she’ll go to her ‘banker’ which is the catchment school. I’m not concerned about that; it’s the potential further delay or change in admission arrangements I’m bothered about. Could they change the procedure?

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backtoschoolsnot · 20/09/2020 17:16

We're now 11th Nov with 2nd stage on 28th Nov - I did read somewhere when it was first postponed that the CAF application will be opened for adjustments after the 2nd stage test. We have 3 grammar + 1 streamed entry school if ds passes and realistically only 1 non-failing school if he doesn't.

1maid · 19/09/2020 23:42

I’m concerned too... we live in Kent... due to take test 13/14 and 17 Oct... heaven knows what position we will be in then... it’s so stressful for parents and of course the poor children.. x

Missmidden · 19/09/2020 22:29

Concerned about this here too! We are scheduled for the Oct half term which is precisely when they are talking about the 2 week “circuit break” lock down. Obviously this isn’t a priority to anyone in government but a massive stress for those it affects. I was very anti them moving it at all- would be all over and dusted if they’d stuck to the original dates Angry

RueDeWakening · 19/09/2020 22:05

In our area it's a 2 stage process, 1st stage is now on November 11th. 2nd stage (if you qualify for it) is on November 28th.

At least we get 6 choices of school to list, and there are only 3 grammars DS1 might qualify for!

steppemum · 19/09/2020 16:42

@HelplessProcrastinator

Our area the test has moved to November so applications to secondary will need to be made without the results. Tests are sat on Saturdays in the grammar schools as our primaries are not officially involved in the process at all.
In our area it is Oct 17th, but the results won't be in before 31st.

In has lead to an outcry.
Glos schools have 5 options on their form. This allows them to put 3-4 grammars, and then 1-2 others. There are, at most, 5 grammar schools you can go to, so you can almost cover all your options.

But kids travel to Glos grammars from other areas, and thpse areas only have 3 options on their form. After a huge complaint, they have increased that to 4, which helps.
I think, however, that it will be used at appeal.

HelplessProcrastinator · 19/09/2020 15:09

Our area the test has moved to November so applications to secondary will need to be made without the results. Tests are sat on Saturdays in the grammar schools as our primaries are not officially involved in the process at all.

Sarjest · 19/09/2020 13:45

I’m concerned the lockdown is going to get more restrictive. Not everyone takes it in this neck of the woods so it may not be deemed essential. Perhaps they’ll have multiple testing centres dotted around in the area to avoid huge amounts of children rocking up to one school. There have been a few super strict physical mocks round here. Maybe they can run them like that.
My DD just wants it over with.

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steppemum · 19/09/2020 11:44

@spanieleyes

Just to add, the tests are conducted in the primary schools, rather than the secondary.
not everywhere.

In counties like Kent, where pretty much everyone takes it, it is done in primary school.

I counties like Gloucestershire, where you opt in to taking it, it is run on a Saturday at the grammar schools

spanieleyes · 19/09/2020 08:48

Apologies, I meant isolating when I said shielding!

myworkingtitle · 19/09/2020 08:30

CulturallyAppropriatedName, yes, I already corrected myself in another post on the thread.

CulturallyAppropriatedName · 19/09/2020 08:28

@myworkingtitle

It will depend on your region as the 11+ is not a national thing. Trafford had theirs earlier this week I think.
No, it is in October, pushed back a month.
GetUpAgain · 19/09/2020 08:26

@meditrina

Those shielding will be offered a later date

Shielding is paused, and many formerly shielded DC have been permanently removed from the shielding list. They might need a fallback date (to allow for illness, isolation, other exceptional circumstances) but it still has to be timely

All tests need to be well before the applications deadline falls on 31 October, so that parents can apply with known results.

This has all the makings of a real clusterfuck

Round here people won't have their results before applying. They just have to guess!
AveEldon · 19/09/2020 08:25

Our borough test (not quite the 11+) is delayed until Dec
So we have to apply not knowing the results!

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