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Masks all day in school

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ihearttc · 31/08/2020 12:25

Furious just about sums up how I feel at the moment. Just had an email from DS1’s school (he is going into Y11) saying they will be required to wear masks all day long in school from the minute they get inside the school gates to when they leave. They are allowed to take them off to eat lunch but will need to be put back on immediately. Before I fire off an email to the school, just wondered how I stand legally with refusing to give permission for him to wear one all day long? It’s completely against the DofE guidance which states corridors and transitions only.
We live rurally and are in a very very low Covid area for what’s its worth, no where near areas on local lockdown.

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Shitfuckoh · 31/08/2020 14:31

@WhySoMuchMess
Knew it wouldn't be long before you gave us your 2 cents worth.

lakesidesummer · 31/08/2020 14:31

Just wanted to add that neither dc or teachers remove their masks to talk in the classroom, there is no need to.
They take them off for lunch and water only.

MintyMabel · 31/08/2020 14:30

Absolutely not but it's not hysterical to not want that to happen. Considering there have been rumours it will be mandatory it's hardly a surprise that some people will be worried about this.

Of course it's not hysterical not to want it. it is hysterical to think that there is any risk whatsoever that it happens.

There are rumours there is a monster in loch ness. Most sane people know that is bollocks. There is absolutely no suggestion that mandatory vaccinations is a consideration. The "rumours" have been started by the same anti vax crack pots who get their information from Jenny McCarthy rather than from actual science.

WhySoMuchMess · 31/08/2020 14:29

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topofthewardrobe · 31/08/2020 14:29

Ah but some parents have allowed their kids to do f-all. I think at primary there was an estimate of 20-30 % were actually doing work. Secondary slightly higher but more like 50%.

Then those parents should be ashamed of the lack of support for their children. It's one thing if you genuinely can't support their education but most parents can try. A few years ago I came across a parent who was at a year six meeting about how to help your child with the SATs. She was upset because she wanted to help her child but explained she found reading and writing hard and maths difficult. If she can make an effort to help then most parents can and should.

itsgettingweird · 31/08/2020 14:29

@TrustTheGeneGenie

Secondary school kids should be discussing these things themselves with teachers. We are meant to be teaching them critical thinking and communication

That's a joke if ever I heard one. If dss tried to speak to a teacher about why they had to wear blazers he'd just get a detention. They don't promote communication at all, the promote we say you do.

Not the experience my ds and friends found in school.

There's changed to no blazers from May half term until summer and before that at discretion of school. And they changed summer infirm to include knee length tailored shorts.

MS comprehensive secondary.

Shitfuckoh · 31/08/2020 14:28

@TrustTheGeneGenie
It isn't obvious to me!
I've seen quite a lot of @noblegiraffe comments & threads and I've found most of them to be fine? Confused the comments/replies to them though Shock

FrippEnos · 31/08/2020 14:27

TrustTheGeneGenie

Right so not ok to tell teachers to get on with it but totally ok to have a go at concerned parents. Right.

At the start of lockdown, I would have agreed with you that it is not OK.

Now if a parent gets snarky, rude, belligerent etc. I will post in the same way.

It is amazing how many parents take offence when you give back as good as you get.

As after 161 days of mulitple posts everyday bashing teachers, including various made up ones about what teachers are doing (which sometimes get deleted) it gets very hard to tell who the genuine parents are and who are just trying to cause trouble.

WhySoMuchMess · 31/08/2020 14:27

I completely agree OP. If my dc school try to enforce this, I will consider pulling her out. It is completely unnecessary.

noblegiraffe · 31/08/2020 14:27

@Shitfuckoh

My goodness, another post that has seen *@noblegiraffe* jumped on?!

@noblegiraffe I don't know what you do to these people but I really want to know your secret!

Grin
Masks all day in school
Bollss · 31/08/2020 14:26

Secondary school kids should be discussing these things themselves with teachers. We are meant to be teaching them critical thinking and communication

That's a joke if ever I heard one. If dss tried to speak to a teacher about why they had to wear blazers he'd just get a detention. They don't promote communication at all, the promote we say you do.

WhoWants2Know · 31/08/2020 14:26

I would be curious as to exactly why the head felt it necessary to put measures in place over and above what is required nationally. My guess is that he is privy to information that the OP is not.

lakesidesummer · 31/08/2020 14:25

My dc (not UK) wear masks all day including during dance and games lessons.
It has also been over 30 degrees last week.
They have coped fine, I'm sure your dc can manage as well.
It took a couple of days to get used to it but they did.

TheSeedsOfADream · 31/08/2020 14:24

Those with asthma are exempt, in the UK (not everywhere) and there have been numerous posters with chronic asthma (HCPs mainly) saying how it wasn't until Covid that they had given a second thought to wearing them. They were obviously shouted down and called liars and were subjected to the "then your asthma isn't as bad as mine" by the can't shan't won't posters. Of whom MN seems to have more than its fair share.
I may consider (as teacher and parent) complaining if masks are not mandatory in my daughter's school. What with the scientists confirming they reduce risk of transmission by 90% etc.

itsgettingweird · 31/08/2020 14:24

[quote ihearttc]@Macaroni46

Honestly I’m one of the most supportive parents there is normally, I fully cooperate with all policies from the school. But surely if you don’t agree with something you should question it? It was a perfectly polite email to his HOY questioning what would happen if I didn’t give permission for him to wear a mask in class? I basically want the onus on me and not him. I’m sorry if you feel you had to leave the profession because of difficult parents but I promise you I’m not one of those.[/quote]
Extreme that though to every school policy.

Every parent asking the HOY what if they don't give permission for .......

Wearing blazer unless told otherwise
Having to have own stationary or lunchtime detention
Having plain trainers for PE
No arosol sprays only roll on. Etc etc.

Secondary school kids should be discussing these things themselves with teachers. We are meant to be teaching them critical thinking and communication.

If make make decisions for them all the time they'll run into these parents who - for some reason - actually genuinely believe a school with test and quarantine their kid and remove them from the family. Or that having temperature taken is akin to having a gun held at their head.

Yesterday at the theme lark I didn't see one adult or child be affected by the temp checks on the doorway.
I'd be surprised if anything if them are traumatised for life.

ineedaholidaynow · 31/08/2020 14:24

Maybe Gav needs to do another announcement and quash all these unfounded rumours, some of them are really damaging

middleager · 31/08/2020 14:22

@itsgettingweird

I read something the other day about families in Bradford being scared to do similar re letters because a lady claiming to be a doctor posted a SM post in Urdu telling parents schools would take their kids away from them, test them and quarantine them or they were doing it to trap families to deport them.

I feel sorry for the parents that's there's complete idiotic dickheads out there who would exploit people.

It should be illegal and carry heavy fines.

Some parents are scared.

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/fears-city-schools-take-kids-18845410

'The public health chief of Birmingham has issued a warning over fake news regarding children being taken away from parents if they test positive for coronavirus.'

All these rumours on Facebook etc. are doing nothing to help matters.
Of course, we might know there isn't a vaccination and that schools couldn't just give it (heck, we didn't get the year 9 immunisations in time because of Covid, and other secondary schools aren't setting HPV dates now because of the pandemic) but there are clearly parents who do believe the rumours.

Some parents are angry too and it is getting unpleasant out there.

Bollss · 31/08/2020 14:21

@Shitfuckoh

My goodness, another post that has seen *@noblegiraffe* jumped on?!

@noblegiraffe I don't know what you do to these people but I really want to know your secret!

Haha it's pretty obvious that it's the snidey "parent bashing" comments isn't it?

It's not like she's an innocent poster politely suggesting things.

LadyPenelope68 · 31/08/2020 14:21

@ihearttc
It’s still not in the guidance, unless I’ve missed it the 5 times I’ve read it since Friday (which is completely possible so happy to be corrected.)
Maybe you need to re-read then as there’s a whole section on face coverings!! Plus there’s been guidance on the decision as to whether students wear them in all areas being up to Headteacher’s discretion.

Shitfuckoh · 31/08/2020 14:20

My goodness, another post that has seen @noblegiraffe jumped on?!

@noblegiraffe I don't know what you do to these people but I really want to know your secret!

milveycrohn · 31/08/2020 14:20

I think it is crazy for anyone, (whether child at school, parent, teacher or adult at work) to be expected to wear a mask all day for 6 hours plus, at a time.
If those with asthma, etc are exempt, then it is clear, that wearing a mask impacts breathing.
Wearing them in corridors, or into shos for short periods at a time is something different.

itsgettingweird · 31/08/2020 14:19

I took ds to a big theme park yesterday.

I noticed that the parents took masks off in between rides. The kids just walked around in them seemingly unbothered.

We need to give them more credit.

Bollss · 31/08/2020 14:16

@noblegiraffe

No, it's not but let's not pretend youre a completely different person in real life.

You have literally no idea.

I think I have an idea. I think most people on this forum have an idea.
ihearttc · 31/08/2020 14:16

@Macaroni46

Honestly I’m one of the most supportive parents there is normally, I fully cooperate with all policies from the school. But surely if you don’t agree with something you should question it? It was a perfectly polite email to his HOY questioning what would happen if I didn’t give permission for him to wear a mask in class? I basically want the onus on me and not him. I’m sorry if you feel you had to leave the profession because of difficult parents but I promise you I’m not one of those.

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noblegiraffe · 31/08/2020 14:15

No, it's not but let's not pretend youre a completely different person in real life.

You have literally no idea.

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