Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Secondary education

Connect with other parents whose children are starting secondary school on this forum.

Original poster

Teachers - do you know your students results?

84 replies

mummabear1967 · 12/08/2020 13:42

Hi

Any teachers on here - when predicting grades for your GCSE & a level students, how did you do it? Did you just look at all their mocks, classwork and homework and decide “John deserves an A and Charlotte deserves a D” ?

So when you predicted grades, is that what they’ll actually get, so do you know their results already? Or do you submit your predicted grades to exam boards and then they change them if necessary?

OP posts:
OhCrumbsWhereNow · 12/08/2020 15:15

Just out of interest, how do you grade those students who are very bright, but inclined to coast, will quite probably flunk their mocks, terrify their teachers and parents but then pull it out of the bag at the last minute and achieve top grades in the actual exams?

Just recalling one of my siblings who could spell FUDGE with their mock GCSEs and then got 11 A* a few months later with no discernible increase in work ethic.

Pieceofpurplesky · 12/08/2020 14:41

OP if you results in the department are not the same as last year you will have those grades downgraded. It wasn't worth a risk, even if a teacher was unprofessional enough to choose favourites.

We are a school that had a boundary change for this year - so a very different cohort - and our kids this year were due to get much higher grades. Sadly they won't as we are judged on previous years

Original poster
mummabear1967 · 12/08/2020 14:35

@SpookyNoise

I gave them grades which are a true reflection of where they were working. I don’t think any teacher would give a higher grade to a student they liked or a lower to a student they didn’t like so much.
Yes I wouldn’t like to think so either. It would be so soul destroying to think that.

But say you predicted one of your pupils an A grade, could the exam board not email you and ask you provide them with samples of that students mock and test results to back that up?

OP posts:
SpookyNoise · 12/08/2020 14:31

I gave them grades which are a true reflection of where they were working. I don’t think any teacher would give a higher grade to a student they liked or a lower to a student they didn’t like so much.

Original poster
mummabear1967 · 12/08/2020 14:28

@HappyKatieA

We know what we awarded them. in my case it was based on coursework (I teach Art). I have been teaching 22 years, so I used my best judgement and knowledge of each student to estimate what I think they would have achieved, going on past assessments, ability, what they had produced so far etc. I've no idea if the grades stayed the same when our SLT submitted them, and similarly I have no idea what the students will get on results day.
I’m just so curious to know - but have you yourself given any students a higher grade than what you think they’d actually deserve because you get on well with them and then have you given any students a Lower grade because you don’t get on well with them?

Of course, I’m not implying you have, I’m just curious to know. That was a concern this year that some teachers may flout the system to give higher to those students they are fond of and to penalise those students that they maybe don’t like so much

OP posts:
Original poster
mummabear1967 · 12/08/2020 14:24

@Devlesko

OP, my dd has one result as some boards have already released the grades. It was a little better than she expected so if the others are anything to go by she'll be happy with the results. Her friends also reported fair grades. But obviously more to come on the 20th.
Ah that’s good to hear! Well done to her and good luck for the rest of her results
OP posts:
Devlesko · 12/08/2020 14:02

OP, my dd has one result as some boards have already released the grades. It was a little better than she expected so if the others are anything to go by she'll be happy with the results.
Her friends also reported fair grades. But obviously more to come on the 20th.

HappyKatieA · 12/08/2020 14:02

We know what we awarded them. in my case it was based on coursework (I teach Art). I have been teaching 22 years, so I used my best judgement and knowledge of each student to estimate what I think they would have achieved, going on past assessments, ability, what they had produced so far etc.
I've no idea if the grades stayed the same when our SLT submitted them, and similarly I have no idea what the students will get on results day.

TheletterZ · 12/08/2020 13:57

This is really tricky to answer as the announcement yesterday has thrown everything.

I’ll do the best I can.

Teachers used mocks, class tests, class work, knowledge of student to determine a grade.
This was then discussed at department level to ensure consistency and then a ranking in each grade.
There should be no discussion between departments (so history does not know how biology graded/ranked)
This was then scrutinised by the head before being sent of to the exam board.

The exam board then used statistics to make sure (as best as possible) the results were fair across all schools and previous years by taking into account the cohorts prior attainment (not individual results but looking at the whole lot) and previous track record of the school.

The government has now over turned this and it is now calculated grade (no-one seems to know if this is teacher or exam board) OR valid mock grade (again no-one know what is mean by valid) OR resit in November.

So the teacher knows what grade they submitted and nothing else at this time.

Just have to wait and see how it plays out.

Swipe left for the next trending thread