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Indie Schools: Value Added Ranking

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uk2020 · 01/08/2020 12:43

May I know if there are websites ranking the value added of indie schools? Thanks!

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stubiff · 01/08/2020 20:21

The only ‘official’ one is the value from GCSE to A level on the gov site mentioned above.
Indies use their own tests, etc, at Y7, but will have their own value add from then to GCSE. Some will advertise and some won’t and you would probably be comparing apples with pears.

Stilllookingfor · 01/08/2020 20:15

And I agree with @Peteneras. For all the fame that schools like St Paul’s Girls have, you really don't see a lot of them later on in the professional work sectors - where do they go and what they do, in the main, not visible but you would expect them to pop up more often than they do. (Unlike Eton, and other schools too, you do see them around)

Stilllookingfor · 01/08/2020 20:12

I thought the value added scores for state schools adjust of change in the cohort? Ie they measure progress for the same people at start and finish? At least for primary schools? Anybody can confirm?

cakeisalwaystheanswer · 01/08/2020 19:02

For reasons I can justify I have long maintained that value added scores for Indies are crap. A teacher disagreed and explained on MN how scientific they are and linked to a huge document explaining how they are calculated, but unfortunately that huge amount of tracking and monitoring only applies to state school pupils where I suspect she taught. At the end of the huge document there is a tiny paragraph that says for indies the information is collected from the exam boards, i.e. this is whole cohort at GCSE and A level and it makes no allowances for schools that have huge losses or big intakes at 6th form. Similarly, there is no detailed information available for unis etc from indies because they can't get access to individual pupil information. only cohort.

If it is a school that maintains pretty much the same cohort to 18 then the value added score on the govt site should be a good indicator but for many schools it really isn't,

www.compare-school-performance.service.gov.uk/schools-by-type?step=default&table=schools&region=all-england&for=primary

Aethelthryth · 01/08/2020 15:22

measure, not pleasure

Aethelthryth · 01/08/2020 15:21

Schools should know their value added score- it's basically a pleasure of GCSE performance against ability tests on entry, or A level score against GCSE. If there are schools which you are considering you can ask the question

peteneras · 01/08/2020 14:51

The only real yardstick measuring the true value added of any school - indie or otherwise - is the destination reached 10 years (or more) after the individual had left the school.

AnotherNewt · 01/08/2020 13:01

I don't think so.

For there is no standard recording of levels on entry