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Upcoming girls’ independent SW London schools 11+ exams

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Oceane11plus · 08/07/2020 11:50

Are there any parents on this board with DDs due to sit independent school exams in January? If so where do you stand in terms of shortlisting schools, revisions etc Are you planning to do any work over the summer?

We are still in the process of fine tuning the list of schools... We will probably end up applying to about 4/5 schools, of which 2 are in the same consortium which means 3/4 exams max.
As far as I am aware, our prep has not recommended any specific revisions for the summer, but I was still planning to make her write some maths, English and VR/NVR past papers, as 2 months without doing anything seems too much so close to the exams. I was thinking of making her do one paper a week in each subject, on top of reading and boosting her vocabulary, with two weeks in August without any paper/formal work.

Any tips on what we should be doing at this stage and over summer holidays, notably from parents with past experience, would be super useful!

Thank you

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stellagibbons · 16/07/2020 13:21

We're having next week off (although, to be honest, enthusiasm for home schooling has dropped off a cliff here this last week as well).

I'm going to spend the week getting my ducks in a row with the schools' requirements and deadlines, plus the same for the state schools we're interested in. I also need to make a decision whether we're going to do the Wandsworth Test (we're out of borough) and have a punt at Graveney or not. The fact that it's later than normal is actually putting me off as it complicates things more I feel.

dinosaurinmybelly · 15/07/2020 20:47

Hello - I also have a Year 5 DD in state school and will be looking at WHS, SPGS, G&L, PHS so appreciate the support thread and any guidance to get us through to the other side without too much stress.

We don't have a tutor, but have been working through bond books and DD is pretty good at getting stuck into the reasoning and the English. I'm hoping to identify the gaps in Maths and work on them myself.

I've only been through this process with a DS so far and he was difficult to motivate, but really needed 30 mins each day of the summer to get things cranked up. The Wandsworth Test was a really useful way of gauging where they were at and giving them some experience of exam conditions, so I too am disappointed that has been postponed.

I thought the virtual open days for PHS and WHS last week were really good. We're booked in for an open day at G&L in September which might also be virtual. Given the current situation, we are all a bit tired here so I don't think we'll be starting on any proper prep until mid-August at the earliest.

I agree we will have to keep ourselves updated on any changes to the process this year so as not to be caught unawares. Good to be with others in the same boat...

After8itsgrownuptime · 13/07/2020 07:23

Just to add an update, but we are looking at KGS and they have announced that they are dropping the VR/NVR for this year and going with an English and maths paper only

c0co · 12/07/2020 10:37

Hi, if I can be if any help here, I’ll try my best! I don’t have one going through 11 plus this year, but have had 4 go through the process in SW London. Recent experience of applications to SPGS, LU, G&L, PHS, FHSS. No experience of WHS or any of the SE London schools, I’m afraid. Less recent experience of applications to KGS and Ibstock.

All I would say, at this stage, is there’s not much you can do for the new Consortium exam as it’s multi-choice yes, but nothing like the VR papers in the Bond books, etc. By all means, do a few of those, but no need to be going crazy. The Consortium test is more like the CAT tests they did in school which assess “underlying ability,” not “learned ability,” so more like an IQ style test than anything you can improve on, as such.

The initial tests for SPGS is very similar, but it’s in a computer and I think it’s an adaptive test.

Lots of schools don’t do NVR / VR anymore, so do check the formats of the particular schools your DCs are going for!

SwLma · 12/07/2020 00:28

@Oceane11plus watching this post with interest as we live in SW London and are applying to state and indie schools. I started a thread a few months back but appreciate with summer approaching , prepping and shortlisting the shortlist is becoming an actual thing.

We looked at JAGS and SCHS last year. Over the last few weeks/months, of GDST schools, we've seen Wimbledon and Sydenham. As others have said, Wimbledon have taken into account the impact of Covid and have given more time by moving the assessment date. Others haven't followed suit yet but I'm keeping my ear to the ground.

I'm torn with summer prep - the last four months have been trying. Good days and not so good days in terms of my DD's motivation. She is at a state school with limited resources so I'm conscious the once a day Twitter activity posts coupled with my (I assume) jarring attempts to step in as teacher whilst working from home hasn't been the best.

With her tutor's support, I plan to identify the gaps we need to plug and will see how she goes with 10 mins of some general practice and a test paper once a week. we do however plan to have a proper staycation during the hols - we need it!

Stircrazyschoolmum · 11/07/2020 11:41

mdh2020 you are right that a tutor is very valuable in teaching exam technique. My DD’s primary is very relaxed and she’s not sat an assessment since Christmas. Some of the schools - Putney for example - state they won’t go above the y6 curriculum but I think others might and a tutors knowledge here is very useful.

I can’t think of any girls schools I’ve looked at that do NVR.. Alleyn’s do spacial reasoning which we’ve not looked at yet!

stella DD went back for 2 weeks but the focus was very much on social/pastoral things. The only other change I’m aware of is the Wandsworth test has moved from Sept to early Dec which is a bit frustrating as it would’ve given a sense of how DD responded to timed/exam conditions and where her VR is at!

oceane I’ve visited PHS several times as my friend’s daughter went there and loved it. I really like the head and found it busy and buzzy. The site is quite crammed (like WHS) and I’m not sure if their building work has been delayed by Co-vid.

PHS and WHS would be train rides for us so I’m still dithering on whether we’d apply!

After8itsgrownuptime · 11/07/2020 10:25

We have been given a huge folder to work through over the summer holidays. Lots of maths papers and English comprehensive and VR/NVR. From September when we go back they only do homework in the core subjects and it’s really all about exam prep. The school were very good over lockdown and managed to get all year 5 back on half days for 4 weeks

Oceane11plus · 10/07/2020 22:08

@Stircrazyschoolmum This is very interesting, I hasn’t realised some schools had already decided to shift the exam sequence due to Covid. Worth keeping an eye on it as it does somewhat relieve the pressure short term.

@stellagibbons My DD went back to school for the last 3 weeks of the term and has now broken up. They didn’t do much in terms of formal academic learning but it was good for her to get back to some form of normality and detach herself from the computer screen. She’s spent 3 months with her eyes glued to a screen, she had to have a PC in her room during this period and I suspect she’s been spending some of her free time during breaks between lessons playing and watching silly videos on YouTube... DH and I have been working from home but let her and her siblings work on their own without much oversight as we have been very busy. I therefore also feel we will have to ramp up the preparation rather slowly.

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stellagibbons · 10/07/2020 16:47

I think this can probably become the support thread!

Has anyone's DD been back at school at all? DD was fine with the home learning initially, but just sitting at home working on her own with little to no academic interaction has really taken it's toll and I'm loathe to push her too much over the summer as I don't think it'll be that beneficial. As I said above, I think we'll keep it pretty low-key over the summer and then start really focusing in September.

Has anyone heard anything else about the usual arrangements being changed?

mdh2020 · 10/07/2020 16:38

I don’t live in your area but have been through this with our children and grandchildren. If your child is at a prep that specifically prepares them for 11+ you are lucky. Otherwise, your child needs a tutor and the sooner, the better. They won’t be used to sitting exams and probably won’t have even seen some of the Maths questions. They probably won’t have been taught to time their work. To give them a fair chance , you need to employ a tutor

Stircrazyschoolmum · 10/07/2020 16:14

Last year there was a very useful SW girls indies thread that I lurked on.. there’ll be a lot of useful Current info around the schools you mention there. (Pre-Covid and head changes)

If you guys want to start a support thread for this years process then I’d love to join you as I’m in a similar situation - DD headed into y6 of state.

I know WHS has combined its pre-test with its main exam in Jan, I’m wondering if Jags will also. S&C and Emmanuel have historically interviewed in the fall.. these may also get pushed back.. therefore I’m probably going to let DD have a more restful summer than initially anticipated as it’s going to be a hard slog till Jan.

Oceane11plus · 10/07/2020 09:43

Whilst I'm here... I am looking for up to date views on Putney High. We didn't apply for my older DD so never got to see it, and I'm not sure we will be able to see it because of Covid. I have read quite a lot of old posts but views are quite polarised and I can't make up my mind whether we should put it down on our list or not Hmm

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Oceane11plus · 10/07/2020 09:37

I spoke too quickly, our prep has finally given us a pack of papers to complete over the holidays.
I am thinking of making her do one paper of each subject (maths, English, VR, NVR) every week, with a one-week break in August. Does it sound reasonable?

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Oceane11plus · 08/07/2020 23:12

Wow that seems quite full on indeed! With my elder DD I don’t think we did that much work over the summer (but we worked very hard between September-December), it all worked out very well in the end but that was a few years ago and she was not at a prep so the process might have been less competitive and as a state school applicant marking might have been more complacent?
In any case from all the posts it sounds like we have to carry on with the regular practice... She’s not as self motivated as her older sister so it might be a struggle at times but hey ho, I’ll have to do my best to motivate her.

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Oceane11plus · 08/07/2020 23:02

@ripple11 thank you for flagging, that’s good to know, I will ask tomorrow if they are planning to give any homework for the summer (school has not broken up yet so it might still be coming)

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Stilllookingfor · 08/07/2020 22:52

The most full on schools (think Kew College in west London for example) will make you apply to six schools and expect full on work through the summer. They get good results though. Average number of offer varies between 3 and 4 depending on the year. But just you know what you are up against. In the long term, I am convinced it is not the best for the child, but cramming through the summer does help you with results at this particular point in time.

ripple11 · 08/07/2020 20:26

Last summer our london prep gave a rather large folder of work for the summer hols.State schools won't understandably....but I'm very surprised a prep school hasn't.
We had something every day ,each week apart from a couple of weeks off. It seemed alot, but it worked ;-)
Good luck!

Oceane11plus · 08/07/2020 15:05

Thank you for your response! Sounds like we have similar plans for the summer.

We will also be applying to Jags. We ruled out Alleyns as we prefer single sex at this stage (it might change for 6th form though).

We also visited all the schools (except one) when we applied for our older DD but that was a few years ago and I believe some heads have changed so it would have been nice to go and see again.

As for the gap between state and prep school that’s a fair question, worth asking. Our prep has been pretty diligent but it’s hard for me to tell how it compares to what it should have been (my older DD was at a state school when she sat 11+ exams so I have no point of reference).

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stellagibbons · 08/07/2020 13:18

Waves - we are. We looked at the main schools we were interested in last year thank goodness and took DD as well, which as I can't see open days happening in the same way this autumn is a bit of a relief. We're slightly more SW/ SE London but I'm going to tag onto this thread as a few of the schools do overlap. We're looking at JAGs, Streatham & Clapham and possibly Alleyns.

DD is currently at a state school and has basically been teaching herself with little/ no active teaching from her school so we're all a bit stressed by the whole experience to be honest and I need to contact the admissions departments of the schools to find out if the massive disparity in teaching is going to be taken into account for the exams or not. Plans for the summer are to have a week off, then look through past papers/ exam requirements and target any gaps, especially in maths. Bond 10 min practice for VR/ NVR (although I don't think these are major parts for any of the schools we're going for). And reading of course.