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Help!! Moving to UK: good website for school entrance exams?

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NewUKmum · 18/06/2020 15:48

Hi, we are (hopefully!!) moving to the UK permanently later this summer. I want to start preparing my children for school entrance exams. (son 11, daughter 10 and son 8) and, as an educator, have found real exams the best way to prepare. Also, I can't buy any of the "bond books" as it's ruinously expensive to send here. I don't know which schools my kids will apply so I want to look at different schools' past papers. Are there any websites anyone recommends to see these? Thanks from Trenton, NJ!!

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saffire · 02/03/2021 19:35

@NewUKmum

I'm sorry but you can prepare for any test.
Not really, and that's the whole point behind CATs! Yes, the children can familiarise themselves with the format, but they can't be coached on how to pass them.

Have a look at this for some more info: www.theschoolrun.com/year-7-cats-what-every-parent-needs-know

Pieceofpurplesky · 02/03/2021 18:55

You can't really revise for a CATs test. It's a test of problem solving and reasoning. You can download papers from the internet

LIZS · 02/03/2021 18:45

Reading rest of thread back, it sounds like this is an internal test anyway, not for entrance assessment as you already have school places.

viques · 02/03/2021 18:27

@NewUKmum

I'm sorry but you can prepare for any test.
And LIZS has listed the ways to prepare for VR and NVR tests, where familiarity with the way questions are posed, techniques for recognising appropriate strategies to apply, and time management are ways to prepare.
LIZS · 02/03/2021 18:07

But not in the same way as learning maths or english essay writing. Bonds do samples of VR, NVR etc

NewUKmum · 02/03/2021 18:01

I'm sorry but you can prepare for any test.

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LIZS · 02/03/2021 17:56

CATS are reasoning tests, you can't prepare as such but working to time, multiple choice style questions, might help familiarise.

NewUKmum · 02/03/2021 17:45

Our school is giving the "CAT" tests. Could someone please give any suggestions on how to prepare? Many thanks!

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NewUKmum · 06/12/2020 17:38

So the moms in Year 6 are freaking out! I guess this is exam season. Any suggestions as to what to do now so that I'm not pulling my hair out in Dec 2021?!

Thank you so much

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siz99 · 20/10/2020 23:22

Let him know that NASA uses the metric system....

NewUKmum · 20/10/2020 22:36

My husband says there are 2 types of countries in the world: Those that use the "metric system" and those that put a man on the moon.

I told him he will not be popular here!!!

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Castoreum · 17/10/2020 14:02

I'm not sure why the metric system is such a surprise. Most of the world uses it! It's a lot easier than Imperial once you get the basics down.

OhCrumbsWhereNow · 16/10/2020 19:50

I think most people here can work in both to a degree.

School maths will all be metric but if you ask someone their height they'll answer in feet and inches, and distances are in miles not km.

You put gallons of petrol in a car, drink beer in pints - but coke is in 2 litres bottles.

I forget when we moved from lbs and oz to kilos... I still think in both. But either is better than 'cups'... American recipes are a mystery on that front!

Good luck!

NewUKmum · 16/10/2020 18:28

Well, all I can tell you after 2 weeks of schooling here is: the metric system? Really?

Americans don't do that.

This has been a big issue on the table after dinner.

Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Needmoresleep · 01/10/2020 08:20

Well done!

One small point. If you will then need to move them in a couple of years time, senior schools are perhaps more like US colleges. They will look for a certain level of academic achievement, but are more interested in potential and what a pupil can contribute to the school community.

But their schools will guide you.

Ellmau · 01/10/2020 07:52

Congratulations!

NewUKmum · 30/09/2020 21:14

As of today . . . . we've got schools for all of them!!!!

Huge thank you to all of you for your advice.

This city is great, but the weather is quite mercurial I must say. In any case, see you all in Swiss Cottage and Marylebone.

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NewUKmum · 07/09/2020 15:00

Thank you @Pinkysxx, that's exactly why we are moving them to a UK school. Kind of strange that you suggested we keep them in a US school but subsequently recognize the benefits of adaptation.

But I guess you said you're a consultant so you need to have an argument for each angle.

Our oldest has gotten over 50% on the Eton science exams and 80%+ on the Habs 13+ so I think we'll be fine.

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Pinkyxx · 07/09/2020 09:40

@NewUKmum the reason I suggested this is that depending on the age / ability of your children you might find they are quite behind compared to UK children. I can't seen to find your children's ages in this thread, if they are quite young then you'll likely be ok assuming they can reach the entrance standard (which varies by school, some are more competitive than others). Depending on how plan you plan to stay in the UK, transition back to a US curriculum can be problematic as again the UK one doesn't follow the same path as the US one. It's worth thinking of the long term unless your stay in the UK is permanent. I'm assuming your stay isn't permanent as expatriates never are, generally employers will support anywhere from 2-5 years thereafter if you plan to stay you'll be transitioned to UK terms which generally won't include rent or school fees paid. Obviously policies vary by employer but the perpetual expat is extraordinarily rare today and reserved only for those at the pinnacle of their profession (where paying the fees wouldn't be an issue anyway based on earnings).

The other consideration is that if your spouse (or you) are relocated elsewhere its good to have consistency of curriculum through out the child's school life as once they get to exams its very difficult bridge gaps.

But that all being said, I moved schools / country / curriculum every couple of years as did my siblings, its entirely doable and I personally now see this as having been an advantage. Taught me to work hard & adapt lol.

NewUKmum · 07/09/2020 08:51

Thanks @Castoreum for the reassurance. The reason I started this thread was to get a good look at a lot of past entrance exams, as in admissions we understood that this really reflects the expectations of performance at my schools.

And, having each kid do about 2 a day over the summer we really got to understand the expectations at each level, which I agree is higher over here than in the US.

But other than your money/change and your "metric" system, much of the math is the same, if at a grade above. We have 8 interviews set up already so I think we should be able to find some places, even if not at the schools they will eventually wind up at in a year or two . . . .

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Castoreum · 06/09/2020 21:02

If your children are in the US curriculum they will likely struggle crossing over to the UK

They'll be fine! They are all still quite young. They have time to adjust before anything really important happens.

NewUKmum · 06/09/2020 10:49

@Pinkyxx thank you but one question: If we're living in the UK why would we want to go to an American school?! I'm quite happy with what we've seen. We're all in.

Thanks also on the taxes but PWC has us covered. We've broken residency.

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Pinkyxx · 04/09/2020 22:57

If your children are in the US curriculum they will likely struggle crossing over to the UK curriculum. I move US families professionally to the UK, and find most children settle / transition best into the American schools where the curriculum is consistent or flip to IB. Below are those I find most popular, catering to a wide range of needs.

www.acs-schools.com/ - they have several Campuses.
www.tasisengland.org/
www.asl.org/
www.southbank.org/

Marymount is another popular choice, depending on the age of your children.

Most have excellent bus networks, but you'll want to think about their commute time, and triangulation of home / office / school as travel across London can be very time-consuming.

If you opt of a UK curriculum school, you'll find most schools will be more than willing to advise you on tests. Some use the Common Entrance, others have their own tests. We did Common Entrance using Galore park resources for study and my daughter did some past papers. The past papers are a little pricey but eminently worthwhile. ISEB is a great resource.

In respect of taxes, it sounds as if you're being moved as an expatriate by your employer vs a 'local' basis. If an expatriate, and school fees are funded by your employer, this benefit would commonly be grossed up for taxes i.e. your employer takes the hit on the US taxes due, as well as any UK taxes on benefits / sourced income / tax gross ups etc. It would be very unusual for the employer to pass any tax burden to the employee under a true expatriate arrangement. Your liability ought to be limited to US federal & state taxes / FICA etc on employment income ( i.e salary / bonus). If on the other hand you're moving on a local basis, you will need to consider that at least for the first year you may have continued residence in the US, in addition to assuming UK residency. Beware that dual taxation can be an ongoing pain point for US citizens and / or green card holders. I specialize in expatriate arrangements, so feel free to PM me if you have any questions!

Stircrazyschoolmum · 02/09/2020 15:07

I haven’t read the whole thread so apologies if it’s already been said, but I know a few people started with the 11plusforum which can be filtered by the area you are looking at? From there you would probably get tips for the 8 and 13+ too?

NewUKmum · 01/09/2020 11:43

Good morning all from a beautiful London day!! We have landed.

Had time to walk around Harrow and Eton: I am hooked on these schools, they are like Princeton!

Thank you for all of your advice, this is going to be a great adventure (I hope).

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