GCSE summer 2020 thread 6 - Carry on Corona Cohort, Further adventures aboard the Corona Charabanc.

Congratulations to Dimsum and JMG.

Congratulations to your DC @0DimSumMum0 and @JMG1234! That must be a huge relief

There is a mixed bag on Twitter but as I keep telling my DD, people often go on Twitter to express outrage, so it needs to be kept in perspective.

Did the IGCSE follow the same assessment protocol as normal GCSEs and A-Levels?

Well done to your son @0dimsummum0

Thanks for thinking of us to reassure both!

Thank you, he worked really hard so deserved his grades but think we'll wait to celebrate until the rest are in! I'm not one for parental academic showing off but just wanted to say that his friends have got 8s and 9s to give others confidence that the grades this year may well be fair. And hopefully not to worry too much about the noise in the media about large scale downgrades.

Also predicted or higher here, as with most of my sons friends.

Good point @aibuquestions we do have to remember that the obes who post are the ones most likely to be upset.

Congratulations to your son @jmg1234 any celebrations to be had?

Was just thinking that @Oblomov20 thanks! and @FoolsAssassin we need to ;
Stay in Secondary (because others might not be going on to Higher Ed)

Use the wonderful title
GCSE summer 2020 thread 7 - Carry on Corona Cohort + pithy title
I don't know why but I keep thinking of 'up the Kaiber' when I read the title back. But we need to think of something as we get nearer. Depends on if we miss or hit results day.

I say we might need a new thread before results day at this rate!

My son got his CIE GCSE results in two Englishes and History this morning. His grades were higher than I'd hoped for, and his friends received similar, so hoping that's a good sign for the main set next week in terms of the media articles on downgrading.

does anyone have any info on how CIE A level and GCSEs have gone today? the hashtag is mainly negative but that could be a minority?

Sturgeon saying they have made a big mistake and going to correct it?
Blimey!

Btw, we will probably post 100 messages before next Thursday. Let's get the new thread in mind now. We don't want to be struggling to find new thread at the last minute!

@SeasonFinale - DD is at an independent secondary school which has a large state primary intake at 11+. Will they use the SATs results for the girls where it is available and combine with data available from their own testing? I'm not sure what scheme they used but they definitely did test the pupils moving from the junior school.

Some private schools do SATS but also I do not know of any (many?) that do not do MIDYIS or YELLIS testing whicb data is available also to feed into prior cohort data.

Agree @Monkey2001 I feel for all (kids & parents) waiting for A-level results. I know I have the occasional flappy moment, but realise the impact of A-level results is much higher.

Piccolo, I have said it before, but just be glad you are not waiting for A level results. The consequences of the wrong grades and any resulting delays really are worse for them.

Monkey, that’s what I was getting at - DD’s current school doesn’t do SATS, and her primary school follows the Welsh education path, so no SATS there either.

I’ve got to the point that I can’t see any point in trying to predict what next week may bring - until then, it feels like we could either be living in a fool’s paradise or a fool’s hell.

@MadameMinimes the reason that is so tricky is that private schools do not do SATS (may be exceptions, but I believe it is not usual) and politically the system cannot favour private schools.

Thanks @MadameMinimes. Nice to know even if it doesn’t make a massive difference in real numbers.

I suppose we’d all be discussing likely grade boundaries if things were normal

The KS2 scores are used at cohort level (school and national) rather than student level. A student with no KS2 score would just not form part of the overall judgement about the “ability” of the cohort in the national picture or for the school. In schools where most or all of the students don’t have key stage 2 data I suppose we’ll have to wait and see how they account for that in their statistical model. Maybe those schools will be given slightly more leniency or have some sort of formula applied to account for it. I don’t think that’s in the public domain yet. If it is I’ve not seen it.

I was surprised to see that there was a 20% increase in A's at Advanced Higher, which in UCAS terms are equivalent to A* at A level and half the number of fails compared to last year. I am sure that will not be happening in England. The Scottish results were very high for AHs, which implies that if a lot of people got lower grades than they should have, even more got higher grades than they should have.

We live in Wales, where SATS aren’t done, and she moved to an independent school in year 8 that follows the English pathway, so how will KS2 data work there?

Yes. Those sort of adjustments are usually very small though (partly law of large numbers and partly because KS2 test results have a certain amount of norm-referencing at play too). You just would never see the sort of increase that was predicted.

So they look at KS2 data and decide there will be more 7-9 for one year if the KS2 data says its an able year?

The adjustment for the “ability” of a cohort is based on KS2 baseline data.

So how does they system adjust for an able year vs a less able year? Or does it just not....