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Make me feel better my y10 is getting one face to face appointment in the next six weeks

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Mostpeculiar · 11/06/2020 17:52

Whereas we’re surrounded by schools offering small group teaching equating to 10-18 hours for each child, over the remaining term

I’m only talking state here, ours is a bog std deprived area comp where a lot of kids aren’t doing any work, my child’s Jan mocks where all 7-9’ s she now averages 45min to an hours work a day as she only has to hand in 2/3 pieces of work each week

Tell me I’m not the only one

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portico · 15/06/2020 20:41

HappySunHappyMum
No offence met, honest. I have to watch over Y10 son like a hawk. Y12 does not want me involved. I have just accepted no teaching provision is available, and tried to work a best route forward. YouTube is brilliant for anything, and half the fun is the trial and error approach for finding the right videos. Videos are better for learning than treading, ie watch videos first, read the relevant chapter and then practise questions. Try Seneca, as it seems free and it covers most syllabuses. BBC bitesize is great. So is Student Room. For any subject your child starts browse the web for past questions and mark schemes. Re Tutors if you can afford it why not, it’s an investment - both tutors know I will engage them for two months each. I chose them because the relevant teachers would not mark any questions for my son. What else could I do.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 15/06/2020 18:02

Dd in y10 is getting 2 days in school in total. It’s not great.

Mostpeculiar · 15/06/2020 17:52

@Mostpeculiar

I didn’t see what I was expecting from the BBC this morning after all but I did see the Daily Fail is aware of the one off appointments, the media doesn’t seem to be making a fuss like they did with primary wonder why?
Grrr spoke too soon
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Susiesue61 · 15/06/2020 17:52

DS2 is at a grammar and getting nothing in school. He's year 10.
The online work is quite good though and they are getting feedback.
He cant go back because he's been too conscientious doing the online work 🤔 He needs to go back and socialise

Bobbybobbins · 15/06/2020 17:38

This is pretty poor from your school OP. I wonder why they have decided on this option.

I teach at an inner city comp with a deprived catchment. We are offering each 1/4 of year 10 a full day each week with 2 hours each of English, Maths and Science. They are in groups of 8-15 depending on ability/size of the room etc.

Totally understand why you are upset.

HappySonHappyMum · 15/06/2020 17:30

@portico Can't work out why you're on this thread. You've got DC's who seem to be happy to study for hours, spare money to spend on tutors even though your kids attend a super selective state grammar and time to monitor, decide and guide every educational move they make. It seems to me you have nothing to be concerned about as you've already said your methods are more rigorous than the schools. Most of us are trying to console ourselves by finding out that it's not just our own DC's that are being failed but that everyone else DCs are as well - you know to help us feel better about this sh!t show. You're not helping!

portico · 15/06/2020 17:10

spottedelk
I agree. I’ve supporting Y10 son with online videos for 8/10 if his GCSEs. For the other I’m getting online tutors to pick up the slack

Mostpeculiar · 15/06/2020 16:21

@spottedelk

It's crap OP. If it's any comfort, in Scotland no secondary school children are getting any contact time at all prior to the summer holidays. When my oldest DC was in Reception in England, I learned the hard way that you can't just rely on the school to educate your child. Apparently my 4 year old wasn't bright enough to learn the core words. So I taught her to read myself and she's currently got an Oxbridge university offer. If your school is only giving 1 hour's worth of work, take it further yourself. I get that you won't find it easy or possible to do that in every subject, so just pick the ones you can help with, or if possible pay for an online tutor in 1 or 2 subjects and focus on those for now, or teach her something outside of the curriculum. Even it it's just learning the recorder or ukalele (which almost anyone can do at a basic level) and watching documentaries while you work. Or she could learn a language using Duolingo and other online resources. It's still an education.
Don’t get me wrong she’s a dab hand at fresh pasta and focaccia since we’ve been locked up !!
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spottedelk · 15/06/2020 13:45

It's crap OP. If it's any comfort, in Scotland no secondary school children are getting any contact time at all prior to the summer holidays.
When my oldest DC was in Reception in England, I learned the hard way that you can't just rely on the school to educate your child. Apparently my 4 year old wasn't bright enough to learn the core words. So I taught her to read myself and she's currently got an Oxbridge university offer. If your school is only giving 1 hour's worth of work, take it further yourself. I get that you won't find it easy or possible to do that in every subject, so just pick the ones you can help with, or if possible pay for an online tutor in 1 or 2 subjects and focus on those for now, or teach her something outside of the curriculum. Even it it's just learning the recorder or ukalele (which almost anyone can do at a basic level) and watching documentaries while you work. Or she could learn a language using Duolingo and other online resources. It's still an education.

KoalasandRabbit · 15/06/2020 13:44

I think it could be primary = childcare = parents back to work, money in economy. Secondary = impact on child which could well adversely affect their income potential but not in this government's term of office. Though a lot seems to be geared by how loud people are shouting / petitions atm.

flamingochill · 15/06/2020 13:36

A lot of primary parents seem to think that secondary kids can teach themselves the curriculum at home conveniently forgetting what it's like to be in secondary and having subjects you find hard or require technical rooms like DT or science.

Mostpeculiar · 15/06/2020 13:12

I didn’t see what I was expecting from the BBC this morning after all but I did see the Daily Fail is aware of the one off appointments, the media doesn’t seem to be making a fuss like they did with primary wonder why?

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whataboutbob · 15/06/2020 12:26

I am not confrontational on mumsnet, but I am hugely disappointed at the provision from schools and I am not going to passively put up with it. My eldest has had a 1 hour zoom lesson today, there is nothing else scheduled until the 23rd. That’s in 8 days. He does not go into school until the 30th. So much for face to face provision as from the15th. My youngest has just told me he is getting really demotivated, teachers simply post long documents online and ask them to read, no feedback given. FYI I am not getting this from the media, this is my experience and of course my kids’ . And for further clarification, I do not read the daily mail. My papers of choice are the guardian and Le Monde. Same issues being reported in France.

whataboutbob · 15/06/2020 12:04

I’m sorry @SE13Mummy but until I see a bit more concrete action I will continue to believe what I believe. DS1 is effectively getting 2 lessons in 6 months , DS 2 ( year 8)is getting none and despite assurances that lessons would become more involving and teachers would be providing feedback after the half term, only 1 teacher has posted an online lesson, the others just upload lessons and give no feedback whatsoever. Teachers talk the talk about safety, safeguarding, vulnerable children etc. For my kids, and for those of many other people I know this has translated into precious little. Not trying to be disagreeable here, just relating my experience and interpretation.

HappySonHappyMum · 15/06/2020 10:29

I've just dropped my DD off at school - she's got 3 hours every Monday for the next 4 weeks. Had a huge meltdown, didn't want to go, anxiety through the roof - and she's not a girl that usually stresses about anything much at all. Think there's going to be a lot of kids who find this very overwhelming, it's going to take a lot of time to get back to normal for everyone.

SE13Mummy · 15/06/2020 00:51

@whataboutbob I'm sorry your DS is only getting two lessons in school. My Y10 DD isn't getting any but my DH is back in his school teaching Y10 & Y12. I'm back in my school teaching too.

I know a lot of teachers and haven't come across a single one who is digging their heels in about returning to school. I know of two who are shielding because of organ transplants or a raft of underlying health conditions.

Please don't fall for the trap of assuming that media reports are accurate and/or fair. English schools aren't built or staffed to accommodate classes of 15 with one teacher. The school curriculum isn't designed to be taught to 25% of a cohort at any one time. Neither of those decisions were made by teachers but we have to stick to them - if your DS's school can only offer two days of teaching it's unlikely to be because teachers are being stubborn.

EnidsCrochetCorner · 14/06/2020 21:18

Here it is 1 day a week, all year 10 being divided down over 4 days and then having Friday as an extra day so they may well cycle children through with some of them having 2 days a week.

The logistics are crazy, I believe the government has said only 25% of pupils can be in at one time and they cannot have different groups making up the 25% ie morning one set and afternoon a completely different set.

They are concentrating on maths, English, sciences and then trying to cover everything else if possible. This is alongside online learning too.

I think they are in bubbles of 10. My son is in year 9 so I only really read the newsletter out of interest rather than print it off and pin it up. I feel sorry for the pupils and the staff who must be feeling the pressure to do well under such shit circumstances.

whataboutbob · 14/06/2020 20:44

@Mostpeculiar I don’t think the leafy green enclaves are necessarily doing better. DS is in a comprehensive in a desirable suburb of London and the provision has been shocking, see my post above.

whataboutbob · 14/06/2020 20:43

My son has two. That’s two lessons in all in 4 months ( from mid March to end of year)
I feel teachers have pitted their wits against any pleas by parents/ government directives etc to get back to the classroom.

Mostpeculiar · 14/06/2020 15:20

@KoalasandRabbit

There's already a BBC article and Twitter post saying year 10s are getting between 5 and 30 hours in school teaching a week. Our school its zero, they can go in for a few hours and do online stuff by themselves but that's it and online stuff takes us an hour each day.
Thought so Angry
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KoalasandRabbit · 14/06/2020 12:08

There's already a BBC article and Twitter post saying year 10s are getting between 5 and 30 hours in school teaching a week. Our school its zero, they can go in for a few hours and do online stuff by themselves but that's it and online stuff takes us an hour each day.

portico · 14/06/2020 09:39

Mostpeculiar
I agree with you, and share your frustration

Mostpeculiar · 14/06/2020 08:41

I’m going to have to put up with bbc news going into green leafy comps tomorrow aren’t I ?! where they explain how they’ve got a quarter of the kids in each day for four five hours and we’ll see the smiley immaculately uniformed middle class kids sitting there socially distancing and everyone will think everything is fine in the world except it won’t be as my foot will be inside the telly!!

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portico · 13/06/2020 17:19

All school pupils are in the same position. DS1 (Y12) and DS2 (Y10), both attend the same super-selective state grammar school. Work being offered online is not rigorous in terms of breadth or depth. YouTube, Student Room and Revision Books are the way forward.

Splattherat · 13/06/2020 17:00

Y10 here v large comp in decent area. No online learning as yet. She is supposed to go back on 22nd for half a day a week!!!!
She is totally disillusioned, downbeat, depressed and behind with her school work, her future and missing her school friends.