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Coronavirus - do you think there’s a possibility that all kids at school will repeat a year?

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LSmith789 · 21/03/2020 21:45

In the news it has suggested the restricted measures / social distancing etc may be in place for up to a year. Of course we don’t know whether this will actually pan out and if it does whether the schools will be closed for a large proportion of this. However, I think it may be possible that all kids that are currently at school whether primary or secondary (except for those supposed to be doing exams this year) may be literally repeating a year so they all leave a year later.
In the grand scheme of things, if the situation does turn out to be fairly long term, this may be a solution.......

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LSmith789 · 29/03/2020 09:44

Don’t forget we are not at the end of this yet. How do we know we won’t lose most of a full year!

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StarsThatTwinkle · 28/03/2020 23:06

No, they won't repeat a year. (A whole academic year hasn't been lost either, it's the third term plus two weeks prior to Easter break). The early years would all double up but there won't be the provision in place for it (for what would amount to just one year's provision as well as it would run as normal after the double-up year).

portico · 22/03/2020 12:37

TwigTheWonderKid

I have a Y10 and Y12, and am wondering how this will work out. Will have to play the cards we’ve got. A good time to revise what we have done, practise questions and learn new content. It’s a tough ask, but it has to be done.

TwigTheWonderKid · 22/03/2020 10:10

It's definitely years 10 and 12 who will be most affected by this. My year 10 is of above average ability, has 2 university educated parents who are keen to see him do well, a dedicated work space and a very organized school who are moving heaven and earth to minimise disruption to his education. However, no one can tell me that working on Google classroom on his own is in anyway the same as being in a classroom with a trained specialist teacher actively teaching them and able to respond to their questions.

TeenPlusTwenties · 22/03/2020 09:59

DD was due to have y10 exams straight after Easter so a lot of the work was going to be revision anyway.
There will obviously be a gap in learning, but I'm hoping it won't be a whole term.
It will be what it will be, and it is the 'same' for everyone. (whilst still understanding impact will be much greater on some than on others).

LSmith789 · 22/03/2020 09:53

Ours has said not to send in work to mark, at least not for these 2 weeks but that may change.
Realistically they are not going to have time to mark stuff whilst they are trying to sort out the bigger picture plan and there will be lots of teachers off already isolating and those that are left will be focusing on exam years.

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ErrolTheDragon · 22/03/2020 09:51

I've wondered, depending just how long it goes on for, whether some sort of national community service year age 18-19 could be implemented to allow universities to reduce intake for a year, some students to redo a year, and most students to then go to further education a year later than normal so as not to create a bulge year.

I was wondering about that too. It's the norm in quite a lot of countries (often military rather than 'community') . Quite a few of DDs. EU pals are a year older because of this

QuestionMarkNow · 22/03/2020 09:48

@TeenPlusTwenties, ours is doing that too for the Y10.
But I’m not naive enough to think they are going to learn all the concepts they should be learning in those 3 months.
They should be doing that for the Y11 too but who is going to motivate them to still ‘revise’ for their english/maths/DT gcse when they know they won’t do that subject next year?

middleager · 22/03/2020 09:44

We have 2 weeks and a term left, given in primary schools the last few weeks are winding down with sports days trips etc
If kids learn even half as much as normal it is a loss of 5-6 weeks not ideal but not an educational catastrophe that requires repeating a whole year, maybe all UK should follow Scotland and finish for one year at end of June and go back mid August and to even out stretch from August bring October holiday forward by a week or so

This is fine for primaries, but I have two in year 9, both started GCSE syllabus. One was due to take an IGCSE and has ro resit in November now.

We are both working full time and the standard of their work is way beyond what we can comprehend now.

This will have a major impact on their education.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 22/03/2020 09:42

The school day will never be extended. It’s too long for little ones as it is. And why should the current generation of kids have to work harder than previous ones?

I’m a teacher. My concerns are y9 going into 10 and Y10.

TeenPlusTwenties · 22/03/2020 09:39

Question Our school is setting work online, and saying send things in electronically for marking etc, I'd be surprised if all other schools aren't also doing this at secondary level.

QuestionMarkNow · 22/03/2020 09:35

@LSmith789, I think that all that will help breaking the boredom and help them cope with 5 months out of school wo becoming crazy.
Watching documentaries etc... will help with general knowledge.

It’s nit going to help bridge the gap between Y10 and Y11.
Yes you can just say that they will just have to work harder. It will be fine for some, the most able. For the ines who struggle already to need to put a lot of work in to be able to get decent results, it’s going to disadvantage them a lot more.

TeenPlusTwenties · 22/03/2020 09:34

Eugenes It's OK, just didn't think you'd spotted it. Smile

LSmith I agree, I think routine will be key for all our sakes.

EugenesAxe · 22/03/2020 09:31

Sorry

LSmith789 · 22/03/2020 09:20

I think as parents we need to encourage our kids to set a routine mon-fri for at least 3-4 hours a day. I doesn’t have to be all a academic - watching documentaries for history and geog. Cooking etc crafts/sports. It’s really going to effect kids if they have no routine, I think at least this way they can stay more positive.

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TeenPlusTwenties · 22/03/2020 09:14

Eugene (This is a secondary board). Y2 is in no way an issue imo, as they have until y11 to catch up, which is perfectly doable. Though I agree there will be a divide between kids who have watched TV for 6 months and kids who have done active learning with their parents.

EugenesAxe · 22/03/2020 09:08

I guess work will be more intensive next year, so children can have gaps in their knowledge filled in.

Fortunately, I’d say in terms of English & Maths curriculum (Y2) we were coming back around to earlier topics and going over them again (to clarify, I’m in first year of TA job), so all the children should have covered the essentials for the year. They will just be rustier when they return.

There are always, though, a lot of children who never or rarely read at home and whose parents do not have one of time, inclination or ability to do work outside school with them. They are going to suffer and I expect there will be a more noticeable divide in abilities when we return in Sept.

TeenPlusTwenties · 22/03/2020 09:03

Titsy I have a y10. Since GCSEs are now marked 'on a curve' rather than to an absolute standard, and then cross referenced back to KS2 in theory they won't need to make allowances. The standard might be lower but the grades will be the same, I think.

However obviously and sadly some will be way more affected than others. Mainly the disadvantaged kids with no space, no adult to help, limited computer/internet access etc. All the things that usually impact them but magnified 10-fold. I don't know what can be done for them.

ScorpionQueen · 22/03/2020 09:00

I thought about this, but what would happen with children due to start school? There won't be enough classrooms or teachers. Also all of the children due to move schools, would they stay or go?
Whatever happens, I really hope teachers are involved in the planning, not just government officials. And definitely don't leave it to Ofsted.

TeacupDrama · 22/03/2020 08:56

We have 2 weeks and a term left, given in primary schools the last few weeks are winding down with sports days trips etc

If kids learn even half as much as normal it is a loss of 5-6 weeks not ideal but not an educational catastrophe that requires repeating a whole year, maybe all UK should follow Scotland and finish for one year at end of June and go back mid August and to even out stretch from August bring October holiday forward by a week or so

QuestionMarkNow · 22/03/2020 08:46

I’m pretty sure that schools will be back in September, even if BJ is fucking everything up.

QuestionMarkNow · 22/03/2020 08:45

I agree. I am also more worried about my Y10 than my Y11....

Catching up with 3 months of teaching next year will be hard.

LSmith789 · 22/03/2020 08:16

Like I said I don’t think Y11 and Y13 would repeat. I think it’s a done deal that they will get grades marked on predicted gcse and a levels. Some university’s are all ready coming out saying their offers for children starting this year are no longer dependant on grades and that they are unconditional...I think other unis will follow this.
Also, I didn’t mean that kids would repeat everything they’ve done from sept 19 to now, but we don’t know how long they are off, they may restart schools sept 20 or it may be later than that.
My child is fairly eager to learn etc.. and I am trying to teach at home. I know the teachers are really doing their best in difficult circumstances, but setting work that at the moment no teacher has time to mark along with the fact that secondary schools I know do not have the technology to do proper remote learning, I think will mean that this won’t be successful long term.

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Titsywoo · 22/03/2020 07:45

Im far more concerned about my y10 than my y8. So much content that they now have to learn themselves. I wonder if any allowances will be made for that or if next year will be doubly stressful for them?

StampMc · 22/03/2020 07:37

I think the y10 and y12 children will have to work like troopers to learn the content for their exams next summer and everyone else will catch up eventually, with a disparity between more engaged children with very supportive parents and less engaged, less well supported children. With the best will in the world, a single parent key worker with 3 dcs isn’t going to be able to support her children as well as a wfh couple with one. I know children of key workers can go to school but I don’t know anyone who is sending their teenagers and it’s certainly not being encouraged. Children who don’t have space to work will suffer, as will those with young siblings they have to look after or anyone, who for whatever reason, uses school as a sanctuary. I have already heard people say they won’t be making their children do the work as they “can’t force them”. It’s not even day 1 yet.
Y12s with practical elements will be much more affected than those who are on courses that are purely classroom based.

My dad was part time all the way through secondary school due to the war. He went to night school to get qualifications but I don’t think the government are going to suddenly reverse the cuts in adult education for the sake of one term of home learning.