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If schools get closed how to teach subjects from home

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KoalasandRabbit · 14/03/2020 11:55

Looks like our secondary maybe shutting soon and looking into ways of teaching from home / helping kids learn from home during that period. Hopefully things will be provided by school but would like to have back-ups. Am also wondering how our rural internet will cope with 4 of us on at once as DH's work is also closing and he will be wfh too.

Maths we have books, science have a Kerboodle password so those are OK. Looking for resources for English x 2, Geography, History, French. Thanks very much. Year 8 and year 9 top sets and year 9 has started GCSE in English and History.

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Madcats · 20/03/2020 16:17

Admittedly DD(yr8)'s school is academic but we have just had an email about how it is going to work.

The school will continue to follow the timetable with work being set, marked and discussed using (microsoft?) Teams and their teacher and other pupils available for the lesson via group chat.

Luckily we are awash with laptops and computers, but I think it might be tricky for some families.

Thank goodness it is nearly the end of term!

TeenPlusTwenties · 20/03/2020 10:04

My y10 DD is ill at the moment but when recovered we will I think be following timetable too and then using spaces to play catch-up over what she has missed for the last couple of weeks.
Easter holidays will be spent as school with an aim to be caught up when term starts again. Luckily we have a shed load of revision guides already.

OneEpisode · 20/03/2020 09:00

We have put the school timetable up where did cab see it an we are ticking off the subjects. We are doing alternatives. We did gardening instead of badminton for pe for instance.

meonekton · 20/03/2020 08:39

I am worried, my dc was quite happy that school was closed suddenly, and saying it's a holiday. I made sure it's not, that they still need to be doing daily work. Unfortunately, our school didn't plan it at all, they have least communication with parents. Not much work assigned to do at home.

It would be great if any secondary teacher can give us parents any clue what we should be doing.

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mathanxiety · 20/03/2020 02:04

Yes, in each school district the curriculum might be slightly different (bearing in mind that national exams like SAT and ACT - canceled for the foreseeable - test the same skills that students arrive at from different vantage points and after different meanderings through the material) and in fact across a single English department in my local high school each teacher has a different approach, a different focus when it comes to the modern American novel, for instance. But the teachers and the tech people were able to get all of this up and running in a day. The teachers are providing pretty much the school experience, even down to the students' wearing of pajamas to 'class' as before.

noblegiraffe · 19/03/2020 20:15

The curriculum is the one they would have been studying in school.

Which is different at each school.

I’m imagining that the secondary kids could be set up with a laptop and access to school wifi so that they can do whatever their own school has set them.

mathanxiety · 19/03/2020 20:05

@noblegiraffe, my local elementary and high school districts have online classes up and running for all students including those with IEPs. They had one day to set it all up but there were contingency plans in place that needed tweaking.

The curriculum is the one they would have been studying in school.

High school and middle school students all have school issued Chromebooks for schoolwork anyway, and the schools are using Google classroom. Students in middle and high school do the usual school day, with teachers conducting class from home and reachable by email for questions.

If the students were to be in school they could use the Chromebooks there too, with someone supervising.

Younger students have paper packs to work through as well as online content on Zoom with teachers checking in three or four times per day.

No parental involvement necessary.

mathanxiety · 19/03/2020 19:43

This is what happens when you underfund infrastructure and schools and allow a massive gap to develop between the haves and have nots in society

This may well be the UK's Hurricane Katrina moment.

noblegiraffe · 19/03/2020 19:42

Even if I could see their assessment data, how would I know what it meant? I don’t teach at their school.

BubblesBuddy · 19/03/2020 19:30

These dc don’t have assessment data? They do. Never mind. The ones who need an education simply won’t get much will they?

noblegiraffe · 19/03/2020 19:25

He said there wouldn’t be school work.

Their schools would be setting them work, same as for their other kids. You demanded that we teach them. This isn’t feasible.

I’ll remind you again that this will be a mixed ability, mixed age group of kids from random schools. Assessment data from what? What am I supposed to teach them?

Your expectations are just laughably unrealistic.

BubblesBuddy · 19/03/2020 19:20

That’s not what the guy on the radio said. He said there wouldn’t be school work. Just minding the children. However the children we have in our schools at the moment are a generation that’s never been so tested and assessed. Teachers know more about the current generation of DC than any generation before. The idea that their assessment data cannot be accessed, the children asked about what they would like to have explained to them or revision set according to their needs seems like it’s back to the dark ages. I absolutely do recognise that some teachers will go all out to do their best and help the children, especially ones where there is a need to close the gap and have parents who are less able to help. They are truly losing out.

TeenPlusTwenties · 19/03/2020 19:00

bubbles the teachers will be sorting out workpacks and answering queries, marking or whatever. They can supervise children who are in in the same way parents can supervise, but not actually teach.

noblegiraffe · 19/03/2020 18:23

Bubbles the experts are telling you it can’t be done. Personalised education? Ffs we don’t know these kids.

BubblesBuddy · 19/03/2020 18:13

Well as the expert, I expect you to sort out what can be taught. It could even be revision! It is morally wrong to accept full salary and just babysit. Everyone has to pull their weight and do their best. Not just turn up and do the minimum for decent pay when millions of others are not being paid at all! Try personalised education! Good God! So entitled!

noblegiraffe · 19/03/2020 17:56

To hear a Head say they will not be taught and teachers will only babysit is just wrong, in my view.

Great. Then you can explain how to design a curriculum for a daily changing and large selection of children aged from 4-13, some vulnerable or with EHCPs, in a hub school that is staffed on a rota.

I’ll await your expert response.

KoalasandRabbit · 19/03/2020 17:20

I saw someone else post the schools for key workers children in France is basically childcare not education. I wasn't expecting that either - wasn't expecting top quality education but the same work as given to other children with teachers there to ask for help. Obviously if its the art teacher and a completely different subject or vice versa help might be limited but would be similar to having an educated parent help. My children think there's only about 2 kids in their class that will meet the criteria but will see - I would have thought more like 5 and so you could have 1 class per year. Our school still hasn't sent home work for quite a few subjects including the 3 sciences so think there will be a widening gap with those who haven't got parents helping. Though hopefully will be through soon. Atm no-one can ask for help, parents and children told not to e-mail this week but think they are frantic atm and feel for them having to work over Easter. I hope people working in the emergency services aren't expected to educate their kids after work. My SIL and BIL are having to do that in France though not key workers but both full-time jobs.

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BubblesBuddy · 19/03/2020 16:32

The ones who will suffer in all of this is always going to be the children with no-one to teach them at home and no one with a reasonable level of education in the family to help out. It is true to say there are very many families like this. So the attainment gap gets bigger!

BubblesBuddy · 19/03/2020 16:30

I heard a Headteacher yesterday on the radio say they were not intending to teach the DC that had to go into school because their parent(s) were key workers. I was astounded I have to say. He said that, as others would not be taught at home, it was not fair to teach the ones who were in school! Unbelievable! These may well be the DC who really need help as their parents are invaluable in fighting this. To hear a Head say they will not be taught and teachers will only babysit is just wrong, in my view. The teachers are getting paid and should do a reasonable job for the DC in their care even in these tough times. Everyone else is expected to. Can you imagine a Doctor saying this? That they will turn up for work, get paid, but do the work of a care assistant!

Gettingthroughtheweek · 18/03/2020 15:21

The prospect of closure of schools here fills my son with delight (not). I will have three adult children at a loose end (universities closed) standing ready to tutor their younger brother intensively. All he likes is computing. But he’s about to get intensive tuition from specialists in English, languages and maths .... and the x box is broken....

KoalasandRabbit · 18/03/2020 15:12

Thanks very much, we have some CGP books etc. DD is doing really well and adjusting well to working from home, doing the lessons school have set - it's a bit patchy from school no maths and science from school and many of practical subjects they can't do, English work is very low level, French very high level but a transition period. DD is using the alternatives to cover the gaps and learn more and she seems very happy. The kids have made class group chats so still have social contact.

DS will be more tricky as he's ASD and lost all his passwords, desperately trying to get school to help but they say no-one can reset them. I can set up an alternative scheme of work but DS wants to do school one. Glad to have one out of two up and running.

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middleager · 18/03/2020 04:34

My friend in Spain is teaching via Google Classrom and says it's going ok (don't know how its broadband compares).

middleager · 18/03/2020 04:31

Thanks for the links.

One thing that also worries me is the amount of screen time over possibly months, day in day out.

portico · 18/03/2020 04:20

Hi KoalasandRabbit
In the event your child works at home, I suggest you also buy question practice books (CGP, Letts, Collins etc). Mine pretend to read, and get flummoxed when I try and get them to do questions - which means they were dissing or reading poorly. Question practice is a good way of building confidence. If internet is slow, trying buying question practice books from your local booksellers, or Amazon.

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