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What are the benefits of a language GCSE if you’re not going to study languages further?

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Rollergirl11 · 24/01/2020 13:49

DD is in the process of choosing her options for GCSE’s. She is top set for all subjects. She is torn whether to take Spanish or not. She is very good at it but she doesn’t enjoy it and has no plans to go further in study or career wise with a language. I am saying that it is always good to have a language so why not. And it has now been made compulsory to take a language GCSE from now on in my sons year (Year 7) so my son will have to take one. Will it ever be a detriment to DD if she doesn’t have a language?

Also she is keen to take both Geography and History but a lot of her friends are saying taking both is too much work. Does anyone know if this is true? We have an Options evening next week so can ask all these questions then but thought I’d see if Mumsnet had any advice!

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Theworldisfullofgs · 24/01/2020 14:28

Because she might change her mind and do a language at A level.

Universities still like it.

Because she will be able to pick it up again more easily.

She might want to work abroad and spanish is an excellent language.

Rollergirl11 · 24/01/2020 14:24

I agree with the people that say that speaking another language is a life skill that is very beneficial. But the reality is that if she doesn’t study past GCSE then she will probably forget lots of it anyway....

Her dream is to go to Oxford or Cambridge (this is without even knowing where her education is going to take her!) If having a language were a prerequisite to being offered a place then she would take Spanish without hesitation. But she wouldn’t be taking it for the love of the language.

All of her choices so far are very academic and I am a little bit concerned that she is putting a lot on her plate.

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TinklyLittleLaugh · 24/01/2020 14:22

Academically you never know. DD chose to go to uni in Ireland and her uni insisted on GCSE language.

Ofitck · 24/01/2020 14:16

I agree it's absolutely something cumulative too, so even if she doesn't think it's useful until her thirties, she would be able to build on what she did for gcse. My Dh is fluent in Spanish now (he had to be, through work) and he thought it was impossible to learn a language as an adult but somehow, the french gcse he had from years back gave him enough of a jump start.

Secondly, the fact you need to SPEAK to learn a language does really develop that "wing it" confidence that you need to go to job interviews or give a talk in public.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 24/01/2020 14:11

I think a mix of GCSE subjects is taken to show an ability to learn in different ways. So a mix of sciences, humanities, languages and arts subjects might suggest a child has more flexibility than one who restricts those choices.

Not saying that this is actually true - just that this is what might be perceived by future educational establishments.

Ofitck · 24/01/2020 14:09

I speak loads of languages but none of them fluently (although I'd like to!) but just having that core base in many European languages makes my life so much easier and nicer when travelling. People are friendlier if you greet them in their language, menus are translated so awfully into English that food sounds disgusting whereas in its original it sounds delicious.

Also you understand English so much more when you've learnt how another language works. Your innate knowledge of grammatical structures and suffixes improves and your English writing becomes much richer.

When you travel, you realise how normal bilingualism is to so many people that it's hard to understand why so many Brits claim not to be able to do it. I think it's because we approach it as a chore rather than a pleasure, sadly, and a lot of schools doing rote grammar doesn't help this (although they're desperately trying to get kids to a certain level in no time).

It's brilliant being a polyglot! Spanish is also my favourite of my languages so I'd wholeheartedly recommend it. So much wonderful media available in Spanish language!

nibdedibble · 24/01/2020 14:02

I've got one child who took a language and doesn't enjoy it at all. He's not great at it, therefore doesn't work, and so for him I think the experience has been an utter waste of time.

It makes me really sad, I have travelled a lot and learned a few languages to varying degrees, and I've gained so much from those experiences that I'm quite evangelical about the benefits! I just think the simple act of attempting to speak a foreign language in a foreign country is contributing to a better world. I say that as a Brit who is obviously aware of how shitty the UK has been towards colonised nations and how shitty we continue to be, expecting everyone to give us special treatment because ours is a lingua franca and because we civilises the world (don't make me laugh).

Also, Spanish: how many countries can you use it in?! It would be so useful when travelling!

TeenPlusTwenties · 24/01/2020 13:57

Do you mean education steps wise or in life?

Education wise not a great deal.

Life I would think quite a lot.

  • once you know one language it is easier to learn another
  • holidays
  • work trips abroad
  • possibly jobs
  • confidence to 'have a go'

My DD has a little Spanish flag on her name badge showing she can speak Spanish!

Geography & History are both quite content heavy. As is Combined Science (and Triple even more so).
Spanish is more cumulative, learn as you go along, so even under the new spec (which I'm not familiar with) I would have thought it would have less final revision load than Hist/Geog.