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Y7 assessements - any Secondary parents/teachers able to help?

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SarfE4sticated · 25/10/2019 23:23

hi there, I hope you can help. My DD did quite well at her SATs, mostly due to the supreme efforts of her teacher and the staff of her primary. She has since started our local secondary which is very academic, and they use their y6 SATs scores to set their targets for the year. My DD has been set the highest target (I think) for every subject, and has got pretty terrible marks for everything in her first secondary school report. Her friends who have been set more moderate targets have got the same marks as her in the assessments and got lots of 'on track's and 'above expected's.
I guess my worry is that DD will either brand herself as 'rubbish at science' because of this, or will spend her school career being judged against a standard she won't meet.
So, will this target stay the same throughout the school, or is it adjusted each year? Obviously they want to see progress but they won't want to set her up to fail will they?
DD is very conscientious and like most 12yr old girls she is going through a rather emotional stage, and I want her to feel motivated and excited by her new subjects and teachers. Not like she has failed in her first 6 weeks there. What do you suggest I do?
Thanks in advance

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Muchtoomuchtodo · 25/10/2019 23:56

Sad to think that her primary teachers haven’t done her any favours by coaching her so well to score highly in her SATS.
Definitely worth asking about at parents evening but what you’ve been told already about targets and value added based on SATS results is right afaik.

SarfE4sticated · 25/10/2019 23:50

i think i preferred it when I was at secondary, you were able to just get on with it in during the first and second year, and then you made your choices in the 3rd year and the pressure hit in the 4th and 5th year.

It just seems sad that she might never feel like she is doing really well. I might start putting money aside for her therapy bill now!
Thanks Calamity and Chocolatecake

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CalamityJune · 25/10/2019 23:44

The targets are averaged for the subjects she didn't do at SATS. So if she got say 106 in English and 100 in Maths, they'll average at 103 across everything else.

CalamityJune · 25/10/2019 23:43

The school are measured against the progress from the SATS. Therefore if your DD got high SATS, she will be expected to get high GCSEs and will be pushed for these. If she makes below expected progress it will reflect in the school's Progress 8 score.

SarfE4sticated · 25/10/2019 23:39

Yes Ihatecobwebs I think my DD wishes she hadn't done so well now!
What is weird is that these high targets are also for science, languages, RS and pe, subjects she wasn't even tested on for the sats.

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Ihatecobwebs · 25/10/2019 23:34

At DS's school the grades are based on the SATs results. In his class person A can get the highest mark in the class, be given a "meeting" mark, whereas as others can score less and get an "exceeding". DS and friends have decided that if they had done enough in SATs to get a decent mark, their lives would be a bit easier than having gained very good marks.

SarfE4sticated · 25/10/2019 23:30

OMG! I haven't spoken to many other parents, but none of her friends have the high targets she has, and she certainly wasn't the school brain box at primary!
There is a parent's evening soon so I will mention it. I'm all for having high expectations, but I went her to feel she is doing well.

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Chocolatecake12 · 25/10/2019 23:26

As far as I’m aware all targets for secondary are set by year 6 SATs. The yr 6 SATs are what’s used to predict target gcse results. Bonkers I know. Not sure what you can do but I’m sure you’ll have a parents evening soon and you can discuss it then.