GCSE review of marking (re-mark) - your experiences.

How do I get my child's GCSE English language paper remarked please. Missed out on 6th form because of it. Got everything else. Got a 3 needed a 4.
Thank you for any advice.

I'm disgusted at how the papers are marked

Apart from the misuse of the word disgusted your comment doesn't make sense.

I would suggest you find out how the grading system works for the exams your DS has taken. Do you mean that you think he should have scored higher than the Cs/Ds or do you think that something has gone wrong in the aggregation of the marks?

I’m a senior examiner- have been for 14 years- I’m human, there are occasional errors. I also complete EARS and very few change. I have no idea what the candidate needs to move their overall grade- the mark I award is completely based on the mark scheme I used when we originally marked the scripts.

Just to put into perspective for one paper contract I marked over 4000 questions. I marked 4 contracts this year- I have probably marked 12000 questions...... there might be the odd one that I might not have judged the same as another examiner.

We got WJEC back in 24hrs last week. We are still waiting for paper 2 but think the exams officer forgot to send it Monday. Hoping my email yesterday will have jogged memory. She was super fast replying last week but hasn’t been this week. Guess she still busy.
I’m thinking it’s a waste of money, potentially £180 for me. Ds’s dad said he could review 1 paper out of 3 and that was it. RE teacher selected which one. I told him I’d pay for another though without telling dad. So first paper came back the same mark. Of course if paper 2 is the same I’m going to have to go for paper 3. Should have listened to dad. He said it doesn’t matter as doesn’t matter - he was 1 Mark off a 9. But it matters to him. A great deal. Jeez I hope he gets it. This is so stressful already and we are only starting year 11

Bryzeebubs - maybe he just got a C and had a low D so the mean is a D.

Say for C you need 30 marks and for D you need 20 marks. If your Ds got 31,32 and 21 then the mean is (31+32+21)/3 which is 28 marks so a D overall.

JoanBradshaw, thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. This has really helped clarify it for us. It’s not a critical result for Dd but she worked really hard for it and was disappointed so we think we will go for the remark just on the off chance. Thanks again

@Bryzeebubs78 where is your son schooled, given you are talking in grades? Are you in Wales?

Oh! And all students are told this, over and over again, in every subject. So they do know how it works.

I'm disgusted at how the papers are marked. I think somene may have expained this but, basically, each paper is weighted, so they are hardly ever worth the same % of the overall mark. If your DS scored high in the smaller section and low in the bigger section then he would get a lower grade.

If it hasn't changedX is when not all parts of a qualification have been submitted, the stedent was a very late withdrawal, or the exam board disqualified the candidate.

Ask the school to clarify what they did when they changed the course!

I twice had an exams officer not tick a box, meaning my students got Xs... they were all A grade stduents, who did get their correct grade within an hour of asking the exam board to have a second look and tick the box for me! They are usually very accommodating when simple errors have been made.

Two years ago ds had two subjects remarked. Two went up a grade and a friends son gained 15 extra marks on an English paper which is unjustifiable imo. This year dd is having two subjects remarked as she is 2 points off a nine.

In terms of expectations, am I right in thinking an upward shift in the grade is unlikely? Also, do we only put in the weakest paper for the remark?

If the system is working perfectly then no grades would ever change. However there are flaws in any system where human error can occur.
You have to decide if the costs of the review are worth it against the potential benefits. Eg: if a higher grade is needed for a college/university place or to prevent the need to resit English/Maths for another year hen it’s probably worth the cost. But, if the higher grade will make little difference to the next step in their career then the cost probably isn’t worth it. (Eg: would a 6 rising to a 7 make much difference?).
Picking which paper is a bit pot luck. The weakest isn’t necessary going to have the best chance of going up. It could signify that little was written in the first place.
I would recommend against getting two papers reviewed at once. Image if one went up and one went down - you’d be back where you were.

We are still waiting. Reviewed paper 1 - no change. Waiting on paper 2. This is RE.

We need 1 more mark for a 9

You need to look at the weighting towards overall grade each paper has. You can’t just take an average of individual letters.

Eg: one subject I know of has 3 units. Two are worth 40% each with the third only worth 20%.
A really high score on the third paper doesn’t necessarily mean a high grade overall. Full marks on the third unit (rare!) would still only equate to 20% on the final result. If the other two units were only at 60% each, that would give an overall total of 68% (24 + 24 + 20). Unlikely to be a top grade and nothing to do with the marking. However, very disappointing to the student if they see A for the 3rd unit (100%) but only a grade C as their final grade. Using old raw generic grade boundaries the first two units would get C each. The final unit A. The student would hope they would average to a B or better but due to the low weighting of unit 3 it still comes out at C.
This is using the old generic grade boundaries of: 90%=A*, 80%=A, 70%=B, 60=C. Real boundaries are very different.

For GCSE subjects now, each individual unit will have a numerical value awarded. These are then added up and a total score awarded. There will then be a minimum value needed for each grade. You may find your son is very close to the next grade up. Extremely disappointing but the boundary has to be somewhere.

It depends how the papers are weighted, they may not all count the same overall. It may well be that the lower marked ones carried more marks than the others.

I'm disgusted at how the papers are marked. My son got D's in English and maths. On the results score he received in English out of 4 papers 2 C 1 C and 1 D. His maths out of 3 papers received 1C 1C and 1D. Can anyone explain to me how he got and overall D score in both exams as surely the C scores rule over a D. 3/4 and 2/3. He'd applied for electrical installation course with college even finding his own apprenticeship and was working through the summer only to fail the grades for the course and now has to sit essential skills just to get on the course next September and his employer had to let him go,

Thanks, Joanbradshaw, that’s really useful to know. My Dd is two marks off a grade boundary (15 marks altogether from top to bottom of grade) and she was really disappointed with the result. She has spoken to her teacher today and they have recommended a remark. In terms of expectations, am I right in thinking an upward shift in the grade is unlikely? Also, do we only put in the weakest paper for the remark? Sorry for all the questions - new to this!

I am an examiner and also review papers. We aren’t told how far off the next grade any reviewed papers actually are, so if we do increase a score by a mark or more we have no way of knowing if the grade will actually change (and therefore if the board will charge or not charge the fee). Over 90% of scripts I review don’t change by a single mark. Of the other 10%, half go up and half go down. Usually by only a single mark. Changes bigger than that do happen but I find they are rare. It’s a review of marking and not a full remark - this means there can be a tolerance on some questions - eg if the original examiner awarded 6/20 on a question but the reviewer feels it may be worth 5/20 or 7/20 it probably won’t change due to the permitted tolerance (different across different subjects). The reviewer will not change the original mark if, in their opinion, it is a plausible mark and within tolerance even if they would have awarded the slightly different mark.
The usual changes to scores are where clear right/wrong answers have been marked not in accordance with the mark scheme. Eg: 2+2=5 incorrectly marked correct - no tolerance here, it is black and white. Examiners are all human and mistakes can happen. After 200-800 scripts over a few weeks (depending on the subject) it can happen. A significant percentage of all exam scripts are double marked (checked by a team leader or principal examiner). The scripts checked are usually random so the original examiner won’t know which ones will be double marked. The means they always have to be on their A game and they can’t just rush a few as they know they won’t be checked.

In the school I work in, very few grades change after a review.

It’s not really a money maker. The examiners and admin staff at the exam board need paying for their time in the process. It is quite complex and if the scripts are still on paper (rather than scanned in) they need to be located in the warehouse, posted to the examiner then posted back once complete.

Sorry for the long post but I hope it explains the whole system a little for those of you interested.

The new system is even more in the exam board's favour. I teach A Level we put in for a remark for one student it came back unchanged despite being clearly inaccurate - the examiner's comments didn't even match the levels given. There is now nothing we can do about it. The exam boards will boast about how few grades change in the review stage but that is only because it is so expensive to review marks and the reviewers are under pressure not to change marks. Teachers in my College are now advising students not to bother applying for a re-mark as it is a waste of money.

3 days here for Edexcel went up 8 marks!

Absolutely, feel rather disillusioned with the system. Still he got to the sixth form he wanted

10 weeks! We were told 20 days for aqa.

I'm waiting for my daughters to come back for english as was only 1 mark below the next grade , I was told will take 10 weeks??

Have heard anecdotally of course, that very few remarks have resulted in upward grade adjustments this year

Well the fact they have to refund the fees if they make a change is a built in incentive not to make a change :(