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Grammar results - what do you think please

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schooling123 · 01/09/2019 06:04

Sorry again for the post about grammar, please may I ask for advice on the performance of this grammar:

It is confusing for me, as there are different 4-9 and 5-9 brackets...

SCHOOL 1 (Grammar by coach)
98% of students gained 5 or more grades at grade 5 or higher
61% of all grades being at grade 9-7
Every student passed English AND maths
48% of students gained 8 or more grades 9-7

Comparing with School 2 ( comprehensive) - local
2018 result
66% 5-9 GCSE English and Maths (2018), do not not know results of all subjects to compare to school 1
85% 4-9 GCSE English and Maths (2018)

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PatriciaHolm · 01/09/2019 07:46

These appear to be are the same 2 schools you were comparing in your previous post, where you were told repeatedly that comparing them side by side is not appropriate, that the grammar wasn't worth moving for and the local seemed very good. These stats don't change that.

Have you registered for the slough grammar exams? If not you have missed the deadline for Slough I'm afraid.

Is this the same child you posted about contemplating Eton/Harrow etc for? Who has been preparing for each of 7/8/9/10+?

sashh · 01/09/2019 07:33

You need to look at ofsted and other measures not just GCSE.

Going back a few years I taught a delightful student who had mover to the UK from Poland age 14 knowing about 3 words of English.

If she lived where you are the grammar wouldn't be an option, so she had to attend the comp. This was in Birmingham where there are grammars.

At 16 she had 10 GCSEs A-C (A* hadn't been thought about) and a D in English language - looking at just GCSEs the school was not very good, for this girl it did a good job.

I know you are not arriving speaking another language, but the point I am making is the extra effort some schools make improves outcomes for all children in the school and if your child is one that needs support in the future is that support there?

imip · 01/09/2019 07:15

If your comprehensive sets classes, then it’s effectively a grammar, right?

Where do the kids seem happiest, what’s the uniform/behaviour policy like? What’s the option if you don’t get into grammar? Any after-school groups? Sports teams? I’d say it’s more than just results. School B looks like it’s does well with the top set.

BertrandRussell · 01/09/2019 07:10

If your child is a grammar prospect he is going to do well academically at either school. So look at convenience, extra curriculars and your other children. As , I think, people said on your other thread

schooling123 · 01/09/2019 07:04

Sorry, the context is that with school 1 (grammar), it would mean a change of area/ move. We are in a rented accommodation so we were planning to move anyway...but the change of an area is a difficult one as currently from where we live, my DH walks to work and I travel just 20 min to work... so much to consider if moving the area

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BertrandRussell · 01/09/2019 06:49

You can’t compare these schools. The grammar consists of “top set” kids only- virtually all of them, barring a few special cases- should get at least a 5 in all their GCSEs.

The comprehensive should have children of all abilities, so will get a wider range of reaults. 85% 4-9 in English and maths, is very good for an all ability school.

Bigbopboo · 01/09/2019 06:44

It might help if you put your post in context. I have just had a look a the results for my old grammar school and they are not dissimilar to those of the school in your post. They did have higher proportion 7-9 at 69%.

schooling123 · 01/09/2019 06:40

Thank you. I have just found out more info:

Progress 8
School 1 0.33
School 2 0.93

Attainment score 8
School 1 - 69.8
School 2 57

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CookieDoughKid · 01/09/2019 06:20

Also you need to read up on what the difference is between grade 4 and 5. These results you posted is easy to understand when you know what the grade scale means. Google is your friend.

CookieDoughKid · 01/09/2019 06:17

It is not a fair comparison as these are 2 different school types. You need to be looking at progress 8 scores and attainment 8 scores of cohort of prior high ability which should be available on the UK government website.