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More money for teachers plus stricter discipline in schools - Tory leak

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noblegiraffe · 27/08/2019 19:27

A government document leaked today suggests plans for pay rises for teachers and support for stronger discipline in schools including mobile phone bans. The exemption for outstanding schools from the Ofsted inspection cycle will also be lifted.

There may be concerns about the mention of the use of ‘reasonable force’ as part of disciplinary measures. This is likely to simply be a restatement that yes, teachers are allowed to restrain violent pupils.

www.theguardian.com/education/2019/aug/27/leaked-documents-reveal-tories-dramatic-plans-for-schools

Nothing there seems particularly dramatic, it just shows Dom Cummings is back in charge continuing the Gove era policies.

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noblegiraffe · 27/08/2019 20:02

We’ll only stop getting hammered for exclusions when people stop confusing correlation with causation when it comes to young people who are permanently excluded going onto a life of crime.

It’s probably not the exclusion that set them on that path, but the behaviour they were already displaying.

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Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2019 19:58

There is definitely an anti TA movement going on

YoureAllABunchOfBastards · 27/08/2019 19:56

We will only get tougher disciple when we stop being hammered for exclusions. If a kid calls one of our staff a fucking cunt, I think it merits an exclusion. If they are repeatedly doing so, we need more.

Lookingsparkly · 27/08/2019 19:50

Too many TAs though?! Not what I’m experiencing with TA cutbacks in primary!

Lookingsparkly · 27/08/2019 19:48

Interested in the backing of HTs with regards to exclusion. I’ve found the LA nothing but unsupportive this past year!

Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2019 19:46

It would wouldn't it!

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noblegiraffe · 27/08/2019 19:44

Twitter is going mental because they think reasonable force means smacking the kids.

Which kind of implies that they think that smacking kids is reasonable Confused

I can’t see anything really new or unusual except for starting salaries for teachers going to £30k (I’ll believe it when I see it), which would really fuck up the pay scales if not accompanied by a decent increase for more experienced teachers!

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Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2019 19:34

Hmmmmm... interesting...

The idea that the public narrative supports stern discipline often doesn't feel true on MN threads!

This is going to have very much pissed off the Ban The Booths people and also Paul Garvey at Talk For Teaching.

I shall sit back and enjoy the EduTwitter spat.