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IB at state boarding for sixth form

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probablymaybeperhaps · 10/08/2019 11:42

Hi

Does anyone have experience of any of the handful of UK state boarding schools offering International Baccalaureate?

Other experience of UK state boarding at sixth form would also be useful. I think we need IB unless anyone knows of a school which would allow English, French, German and maths A levels to be taken together! IB would be better though as it also allows for a humanity and a science.

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crazycrofter · 14/08/2019 16:11

Or Old Swinford Hospital School, also around £12k

crazycrofter · 14/08/2019 16:07

What about Adam's Grammar? They offer German to AS and French to A Level. Normal boarding fees are just under £12k, overseas boarding a bit more. It's a boys grammar with a mixed sixth form.

ListeningQuietly · 14/08/2019 15:21

They are post 16 only so that would be a problem

and 4 A levels will become very rare again over the coming years

probablymaybeperhaps · 14/08/2019 15:19

ListeningQuietly ah that's interesting, thanks. I emailed them a couple of days ago and they don't seem keen on allowing 4 a levels nor on her starting before she's 16 (the different school systems mean she'd be at the school a couple of weeks before her 16th birthday). Think they might now need crossing off the list tbh.

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ListeningQuietly · 14/08/2019 14:51

The boarders at Peter Symonds are mostly from the Falklands and from Forces families abroad so its worth talking to them if you are coming in from Germany.

probablymaybeperhaps · 12/08/2019 09:59

That definitely sounds like a good thing! Lack of independent study skills used to be what made the leap from A level to degree difficult for some students I believe. Perhaps this will help... Mind you I'm years out of the loop!

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lovelyupnorth · 12/08/2019 09:54

Yes extended project is normal now.

probablymaybeperhaps · 12/08/2019 08:57

Keswick is just A levels and BTEC, though the "extended project" looks interesting - do all sixth formers do that now?

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probablymaybeperhaps · 12/08/2019 08:53

Dallam's fees are rather more what I was imagining paying! I'm sure Hockerill's are only so high because they're in bishop's Stortford, but that extra £6000 per year tips it from manageable into a big "making sacrifices" deal which puts too much pressure on DD and everyone else- we have two younger children.

I spent a lot of time in the lake District a couple of decades ago and certainly have a soft spot for it. Getting there and away from where we live is tricker - logistically Hockerill is ideal!

There's a lot to think about but luckily we have a year to play with as she'd need to apply this time next year.

We'll definitely need to do some trips to England for school visits in the first half of 2020!

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lovelyupnorth · 12/08/2019 08:40

Was going to suggest Dallam - know a few doing IB there as my daughters looked at it.

Another state boarding school round here is Keswick not sure if that offers the IB

probablymaybeperhaps · 12/08/2019 08:34

Thanks sendsummer that's very helpful. They don't seem to have it explicitly listed as a bilingual IB.

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sendsummer · 11/08/2019 23:12

And Dallam school.

sendsummer · 11/08/2019 22:55

Hockerill offers bilingual IB, from their website a quarter got it this year.

probablymaybeperhaps · 11/08/2019 17:11

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross no they aren't, thanks.

It's not essential she does a bilingual diploma - I've only been internet searching for 15 minutes but I can't find any indication of state schools offering them at all.

Shes getting a good free education which meets her needs etc where she is so I'm tempted to say she should stay put, but understand her desire to spread her wings and study in the UK. I was similar at her age. I understand it to the tune of about 12k per year absolute maximum though Wink She might be better off waiting, completing her education where we live and working in the UK later ... I hate to quash the idea without fully investigating though.

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TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 11/08/2019 17:03

I'm presuming independent schools are not of interest to you?

I know of one which definitely offers the bilingual diploma.

probablymaybeperhaps · 11/08/2019 16:51

sendsummer as things stand UK universities aren't really of interest, but yes it's an odd though probably fairly common dilemma. She has to have German at higher level though for German universities. She also has to have English - the German school system has never been interested in the fact she's a native English speaker, she's never been allowed to opt out of English which is compulsory (we asked if she could take Spanish instead but the answer was no, no exceptions).

I didn't know that there was a bilingual diploma before reading your posts. Hockerill have sent me a PDF about how they meet German university entrance requirements but I'm travelling atm and my internet isn't up to opening PDFs but I'll be reading it when I'm home.

A bilingual diploma obviously sounds ideal - I don't suppose you know where offers them? I'll Google too obviously!

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probablymaybeperhaps · 11/08/2019 16:44

VivaLeBeaver could also be interesting.

I've fired off more enquiry emails.

DD has looked at dress codes and now has a preference for Peter Symonds Grin which I can understand!

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sendsummer · 11/08/2019 16:17

If her English is equivalent she should do the bilingual diploma.
It would in any case be unfair as well as pointless for her to do a language acquisition course that is for non native speakers. Certainly UK universities would n’t be impressed and might not count her German either in IB or A level.

VivaLeBeaver · 11/08/2019 16:02

www.priorylsst.co.uk/_site/data/files/lsst/83586ED5C34294E125891B05AB199188.pdf

LSST offer all those a-levels. Don't think they do IB. Great school, I think boarding is about 10k a year. Quite a few foreign students/students from abroad so they pretty much all stay in at weekends and have a good boarding house activities programme.

probablymaybeperhaps · 11/08/2019 15:58

sendsummer as I understand it even with IB you have to pick a native language - or am I misunderstanding? Her English and German are as close to being the same standard as it's possible to be IMO so it really doesn't matter which is down as her native language except in the way that impacts other choices. I didn't think it was possible to have both as native language for IB but will investigate further.

If she did A level she'd hopefully do German as an extra without having to sit through all the lessons, but in the end she wouldn't mind as she's had to sit through English as a foreign language lessons and learn to play the niche game of trying to only use vocabulary and grammar you've actually been taught in tests, since she was 9!

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sendsummer · 11/08/2019 15:48

If she is being educated in the German system until 16 it seems pretty pointless doing German A level She would be better off doing IB with both German and English as native speaker.

probablymaybeperhaps · 11/08/2019 13:33

CitadelsofScience and stucknoue did you or your children attend state boarding schools? Can you give me any idea of pros and cons (other than the obvious child away from home) and anything we should look out for when contacting the schools or looking around?

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probablymaybeperhaps · 11/08/2019 13:26

OVienna thank you I will. Hockerill would tick all the boxes but the boarding fees are so high! Over two years it's £14- 16,000 more than most of the others!

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probablymaybeperhaps · 11/08/2019 13:23

Peter Symonds College also looks interesting!

German teenagers are self sufficient creatures used to being very independent and some of the school websites have actually made me wonder whether DD would feel rather smothered and babied! Perhaps that impression is inaccurate as the websites are certainly aimed at parents rather than pupils, so probably intended to be reassuring. The stand alone sixth form might well be better in that way though...

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probablymaybeperhaps · 11/08/2019 13:13

Thank you CitadelsofScience Burford looks promising if the A level combination is possible. The boarding fees are far more realistic than Hockerill and more what I was expecting, certainly worth considering despite no IB.

Just choosing a school and worrying about the subjects later doesn't work because she wouldn't be able to attend German universities without 2 MFL plus maths and whichever counts as her native language (basically she has to do English, French German and maths) which is why IB is better for her specific case as she could also do history, art and a science - subjects she prefers to maths! The IB options are very limited though.

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