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What are your thought about this year 7 child’s school report ? Is it awful ?

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Lardlizard · 22/07/2019 18:33

This is the report of a year £ child who did very well at primary
Got greater depth on all sats this it was possible, has had a bit of a bumpy ride starting secondary due to bullying
Which I’m told by the child and the school has been sorted
Though of course I’m keeping my sensors up
The child seems to have settled in ok now and bullying seems to have stopped
I’ve said, right you’ve had your first year to settle in, but going back in September you need to pull your socks up and work harder

What are your thought about this year 7 child’s school report ? Is it awful ?
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PenguinsRabbits · 23/07/2019 13:09

I think that report is quite hard to interpret - there's no commentary, no explanations and no what grades he is getting. Test performance scores are given with no guide to what a result means.

I would imagine he's fine but I would query the science - what does good mean? Does that mean he's at a 6 or could he be at a 7?. Why is the science target lower than the others especially if he's planning on triple science.

Our comps report are also lots of data with no explanation added by different teachers using different methods and the quality of end result is dire. We have GoForSchools so I can see everyday and in some subjects were teachers are entering a 0 for a test where child was absent there is massive volatility in grades - DS has gone from 9 to U in a year according to their system in one subject and we've had 3, 4 inbetween - we've asked teacher and she said 7, its really pick a number though teacher estimate is probably the most accurate of those.

TeenTimesTwo · 23/07/2019 12:30

The report is generally very good (attitude 7 behaviour), apart from the homework.
So he either underperformed in exams due to lack of revision / technique, or he 'over performed' in his KS2 SATs.

I'd leave it for the holidays and then for year 8 focus on checking/discussing homework and revision for tests.

SnuggyBuggy · 23/07/2019 10:16

It seems like a lot of stress for a year 7. It's a hard year for some of them. They ought to have some slack cut, plenty of time for preparing for GCSEs later on, better to focus on behaviour and how they are settling in at first.

Lardlizard · 23/07/2019 09:04

I agree this can be very damaging to a child’s self perception and confidence

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Abstractedobstructed · 23/07/2019 08:51

My son had a similar issue. His school has 3 "tracks", a high achiever track, the average one, and the non- academic one. Each track had GCSE predictions based on which track they were in and they were put in the tracks based on SATs results and info from primary school.
My kid got put in the academic track which meant his predictions became grade 7 or above across the board. This is equivalent to an old grade A across the board. I had many discussions with the school as my son is bright but not a natural whizz and he was never a "10 straight As" kind of kid (I have background in education so familiar with the grades etc). He's the kind of kid who should get 2 or 3 As, a few B's, maybe one or two C's.
The problem is he was too bright for the average stream where the prediction were 4/ 5s across the board (C's/B's).

So he has spent year 7 8 and 9 getting reports which consistently give him excellent effort grades but an academic grade that is "below expectations" because he's on target for a 5 or 6 rather than a 7, when really that is what I expect of him. It's an incredibly soul destroying message to send to a kid time after time after time, that they aren't good enough - even when they are good enough! It's a huge problem for the borderline kids in these ridiculous systems. And compounded by the Gove papers which hugely favour the academics. My boy just got about 20 percent in his maths mock, I thought it was a dreadful result until his report comes and tells me it was a 3+. So almost a pass. Imagine the experience of turning page after page and not being able to do it and what message that gives you about your skill in maths - and actually you are on line to be average. It's a pernicious system and it's damaging to kids self perception and mental health.

Lardlizard · 23/07/2019 08:50

I think the problem might be turning in homework that’s been done to the bare min l, but of course as we haven’t been policing it we actually don’t really know that

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Lardlizard · 23/07/2019 08:48

I think this child got 118 in maths n English sats which is greater depth

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Lardlizard · 23/07/2019 08:46

No it’s a state secondary and primary
Was an excellent primary with amazing teachers and not as good s secondary
With a lot of subs and stressed and unhappy teachers
This child saidvrecently when they asked a question about maths because they didn’t understand it
Got a bollocking for not listening
So it doesn’t really encourage a culture to ask questions

Thanks for the tips and advice, me and dh are disagreeing atm how to handle this so I’ll get him to read this thread
Also thanks for the specific recommendation on learning scientists page and I think that’s what we need specific reccomendations dl you have any specific you tube videos we could watch regarding revision techniques

I think I’m going to have to email the school and request a meeting as we just have no idea what level that is child is currently working at and it’s disappointing that asking for help leads to tellings off and it’s also disappointing to get a report with no personal info in whatsoever just numbers like a cog in a machine

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greathat · 23/07/2019 07:22

He'll have high target grades which are utter bollocks. Grades at key stage 3 are a complete waste of time and made up. Focus on the effort, check homework and support with revision- most kids have no idea how to actually revise. Watch some videos on YouTube for some good techniques

SnuggyBuggy · 23/07/2019 07:07

That doesn't seem very helpful. I also think predictions based on SATs are bollocks. I did well in my year 6 SATs but there were other subjects I was crap at and got a really hard time for "not trying hard enough".

I'd maybe look at the homework which seems to be the issue. Does he have the time and space to do homework. Does he understand what's actually expected of the homework?

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 23/07/2019 06:58

Dh has decided the dc needs to do extra work and has today bought some of those letts stage 9-1 maths and geography ?!

I think the 9-1 ones are GCSE aren’t they? If he’s in year 7 you need KS3 books. Although I probably wouldn’t bother.

If you’re looking for revision techniques then I’d go with the learning scientists page. It’s evidence based. But I think my first port of call would be to talk to the school at the start of next year to see if they can help you make sense of the report. If there is an issue, you can’t really tackle it until you know exactly what it is.

ittakes2 · 23/07/2019 05:43

I have twins in Year 7 in two different grammar schools - and I would be delighted if this was their report - look at how many goods he has for effort. In year 7 - after being bullied!
I have no idea what your schools grading system is but I think if you ring the school they might explain the lower than expected is because they have set him very high targets. Who gets a lower than expected for a 70 plus exam result? I'm guessing he did well in his SATS?
My twins both got 120 in their SAT Maths - but starting at different schools my son was given a 5 to work towards for maths by the end of year 8 and my daughter was given a 3 that she had to achieve in the same period. By term two my son had achieved a 3 but he got lower than expected on his report card. His teacher explained it was because she had given him a very high goal and that some children had been given two years to get a three (like my daughter) so despite his lower than expected grade he was actually doing well.

Lardlizard · 22/07/2019 23:51

That’s fair enough but I do have a gut feeling this child could certainly do more and does have a tendency towards laziness !

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defineme · 22/07/2019 23:48

As a teacher and a parent, I'd say you've been extremely harsh saying pull your socks up when they're working well in all their lessons. My own children often receive 'below expected' (because it's an absolute nonsense basing what a child's expected to get in art or RE on their SATS results, but it's what the school is required to do. I would have said I was very proud of them for working hard in lessons and shall we get into more of a routine or buy some books to support your homework? Bullying is no joke and the effects can be long lasting, I would be calling their teacher to check on their emotional wellbeing and not worrying about the report.

Lardlizard · 22/07/2019 23:35

I get the reason out put what the target is and if they are reaching the target or not

But if they are not we need to know, well if that’s the case what level are they actually achieving

And as for no personal commmets whatsoever I think it’s extremely poor

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Lardlizard · 22/07/2019 23:33

I think it’s a good idea to try n teach this child revision skills yet me an dh have no idea how to do that
So any tip or websites we should start with ?

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Punxsutawney · 22/07/2019 23:30

My Ds is at a state grammar. He has very high megs and it's caused huge anxiety for him for the last 4 years. He hates his reports, he can be 3 grades higher than a classmate but because his megs are high, can still be getting below on his report when they are getting above and extra praise.

Ds is also being assessed for autism at the moment and was very upset at his end of year 10 report as it had two belows on it one was for a grade 6 and another for a grade 7. Seeing Ds struggle with possible sen this year has taught me that although gcse grades are important, his mental health is also a high priority. I've stopped worrying about what the reports say.

Lardlizard · 22/07/2019 23:27

Daft thing is say geography is insufficient
And way below target
Doesn’t actually give us any clue whatsoever of what this child is currently achieving
Would be more helpful to say this child has a target of say an 8 but at this current progress is currently a level 4 or whatever

As to us this is no information at all
Regarding what levels this child is actually currently achieving

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WilsonandNoodles · 22/07/2019 22:48

JonnyPocketRocket and Quart2208 the predicted grades come from GCSE 1-9 system (9=A* equivalent) scaled down for each year group. These predicted grades are based on KS2 SAT results with non assessed subjects usually community Ng from the students average grade.

WilsonandNoodles · 22/07/2019 22:34

Pretty standard reporting from a teacher's view but I would have expected that you would at least have got a form tutors comment to cover the non academic side of things. Good is exactly what it says really. In order to be better than good the student would need to be doing additional research for homework, regularly contributing to class discussion off their own back etc. As far as tests are concerned, yes revision would be expected but not hugely. In future help your DC organise their revision to manage time and focus on the important bits. Revision skills are something that needs to be learnt so starting now is good preparation for more important tests in the future. I would have expect a student who got greater depth across the board at KS2 should have target grades of a minimum 7 however some of these subjects will be almost entirely new to your DC so its not unusually to not be naturally talented in all areas. Something I would definitely be questioning is the target grade 6 in Science. Why isn't the target of a greater depth student higher?

Quartz2208 · 22/07/2019 22:11

I think the predicted grade based on his work through the year was a 7 but he only got 64 on his exam which meant in his end of year test he didnt achieve his expectations - I dont know for sure but its the only logical reading of the data set of the report!

But where they get the targets from I dont know

JonnyPocketRocket · 22/07/2019 22:03

Christ, is this what reports look like these days?! We used to get a grade between A* and F, an effort score between 1 and 4, and maybe a sentence or two to say what we were particularly good or bad at. I can't make head or tail of that jumble of letters and numbers, plus the colours make my brain hurt. If the minimum grade is 7 and he's getting 64, that seems bloody good - but somehow they've awarded him "below expected" so those numbers must not be connected.
Sorry, OP, no help at all, but dreading mine bringing something like this home for me to decode in a few years!

Pipandmum · 22/07/2019 21:58

I don’t under stand how he’s rated exceptional in computing but is below expectations? Take the report to next parent /teacher meeting and ask for clarification.

soccerbabe · 22/07/2019 21:57

btw my dc also did really really well at primary, had a rocky start at secondary, and ended up saddled with 8s as targets for all their subjects, which is probably not realistic for most of them. so as others have said, take some of the target projections with a pinch of salt.

soccerbabe · 22/07/2019 21:54

That's a reasonably OK report for year IMO, particularly since he had a rocky start. I wouldn't bother getting him to work over summer, there'll be enough drudgery to come over GCSE years.. The marks for behaviour/attitude in class are all good, so he's making a reasonable effort at school, just needs to put a bit more time and effort into his homework when he goes back.

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