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Nikkinkaci · 20/07/2019 14:57

Im due to sign my daughter up for secondary in september , i have all the proof i.e rental agreement and utility bills which i could provide as proof but the issue i have is im on no council tax bill anywhere 😰 i was and then i left stayed with my dad , now my kids stay here all the time as they have own rooms an i come of-a morning take them to school etc but just until I can find somewhere else which will most likely be after xmas... i have approached the council and as i stay between this house and my dads i dont need to go on council tax . Any advice appreciated asi want to secure my daughter a place being honest with my tricky situation

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IsobelRae23 · 25/07/2019 19:11

So the children stay with their dad, so dad applies, you not paying council tax won’t come into it (I am assuming dad is getting the child benefit?)

HeadintheiClouds · 22/07/2019 16:12

What address have you used to make the application? The correct one is your ex’s house where the children actually live (and which you’ll presumably move back to?)
I don’t get the issue. If your ex is paying council tax as he should then he can provide admissions with a copy of the bill relating to the house your child lives in?

titchy · 21/07/2019 19:39

Molly it's not the Dc's dad, it's the Op's dad.

No. OP and ex and their kids live in house A where they have all lived together for years. OP and ex have split up but ex hasn't moved out - not sure why not. When things get tense OP goes to her fathers leaving the kids where they are. The ex is the de facto parent with care.

Witchend · 21/07/2019 19:32

Molly it's not the Dc's dad, it's the Op's dad.
That's why I would think she'll be at risk of them thinking she's gaming the system if the school she would get them in from there is more desirable, as that is the sort of thing people do try.
if it was the dc's dad, I wouldn't think there would be that risk.

MollyButton · 21/07/2019 08:15

Basically your DC live with their Dad! And from there it is quite simple, as they live with their Dad that is their address for school application.
Just because their mother lives somewhere else has no relevance.

And even if your eldest isn't actually his daughter - then she would be seen as living with her Step Dad.

caughtinanet · 21/07/2019 07:46

Council tax isn't a personal tax though is it, as long as full tax is being paid on the properties why does it matter where the OP lives, it would only be an issue if a single person discount was being wrongly claimed surely.

It would be helpful to know where you are OP, I haven't come across a school application that asks for any council tax proof but I know different LAs have different rules.

Witchend · 20/07/2019 22:55

I can't see that that's going to be right for Council tax. It'll be your primary residence, so where you pay rent and utility bills I'd expect. I would be careful on that as they will pursue it.
Otherwise it would be far too easy for someone to say "oh this is my house, but I stay with my friend half the week, so I don't have to pay"-and the friend does the same back, so neither pays.

If you use your dad's address then it may look like you are trying to fool the system, as that would be an unusual arrangement. Is it a better school near your dad's?

pikapikachu · 20/07/2019 16:46

The application can be made by Dad (assuming that he has PR)

pikapikachu · 20/07/2019 16:45

Use the Dad's address as the kids live there on the majority of school nights. I assume that their current school, GP, dentist etc have that address.

ChicCroissant · 20/07/2019 15:40

OP, do you mean that you need to apply in September/October for your DD to start secondary in September 2020?

It is usually done online via the Council and I didn't have to provide details of the Council Tax bill. If you live elsewhere maybe you do, but it's not a requirement I'm familiar with.

Bringonspring · 20/07/2019 15:37

Their residency is their dads then as that is their permanent address

Nearlyfriyay987654321 · 20/07/2019 15:36

Who claims the CB and whose address are they registered at for docs and dentist OP?

Nearlyfriyay987654321 · 20/07/2019 15:35

I read it as the kids live with their dad?

titchy · 20/07/2019 15:35

Then he applies. Job done.

NerrSnerr · 20/07/2019 15:34

Why isn't your name on it? Does that mean that he's getting the single person discount even though you live/ lived there? Are you on the electoral register?

Nikkinkaci · 20/07/2019 15:33

He pays it actually! My name is not on it and i thought thats how they checked thats where the co fusion is...

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SavoyCabbage · 20/07/2019 15:32

I'm still lost.

Yes thats correct kids still live wit dad and i stay at dads most time due to arguments but am there every morning and take care if day to day needs.

So you mean the kids live in the home that you and your ex and the kids lived in, with their Dad and you sometimes live there but sometimes stay with your own Dad?

Or have I got completely the wrong end of the stick?

titchy · 20/07/2019 15:31

Then you use the address the kids live at - I.e. the place you and your ex live. You disappearing to your dad's when things get strained doesn't change anything.

Are you really saying neither you nor your ex pay council tax? Bloody pay it.

Not sure what the confusion is to be honest.

AlunWynsKnee · 20/07/2019 15:30

Can't the dc's father apply if he's on the council tax bill?
If it is for this September and you're in England or Wales you might have a problem but I don't know about Scotland.

Nearlyfriyay987654321 · 20/07/2019 15:30

Their secondary school will be based off
Dads address then? as they live there. Essentially it’s based off their permanent address so wherever child benefit is claimed for / benefits / doctors and dentist registration.
You paying council tax really doesn’t have anything to do with it?

EvilTwins · 20/07/2019 15:27

Do you mean your daughter has just left Year 6 and is due to start secondary in September, or that she'll be going into Year 6 in September?

Nikkinkaci · 20/07/2019 15:21

Yes thats correct kids still live wit dad and i stay at dads most time due to arguments but am there every morning and take care if day to day needs

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caughtinanet · 20/07/2019 15:20

I'm guessing you're in Scotland - is that right? In my area in England you don't need any proof of address or council tax to do an online school application.

Assuming your area is online application I'd start by setting up an account.

NerrSnerr · 20/07/2019 15:18

Where do you actually live (as in where you pay council tax, are on the electoral roll etc)

TheBrockmans · 20/07/2019 15:18

So where do your dc sleep most nights and who is on the council tax at that address? Where do you think your dd will be sleeping most nights at the end of October? Who will be paying council tax at that address?