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DS wants to repeat Year 13

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user20 · 04/06/2019 11:44

Hi,

My 18 y/o DS who is in Year 13 and is due to finish school forever at the end of this year is wanting to go back next year to repeat the year. He is currently out on study leave.

Basically, he is only doing one a level as his attendance was below 80%, not just this year but last year in year 12 too.

He has had no valid reason for this behaviour, he has just been lazy and made excuses and turned up to school whenever and when it suited him.

He is an intelligent guy, he got 4As and 1B and 2Cs in his GCSEs, It has annoyed me and my DH a lot over the last two years that he has wasted his potential like this, he could have done so much better.

I just want him to have a better life and employment opportunities.

He just seemed so distracted over sixth year, he just seems to be always on his phone and listening to music and on social media. he was missing deadlines, not revising for exams, well last year he did but left it to very close to the exams and came out with 2Ds and a C in his AS exams which is impressive for somebody who didn't bother going to school or revising.

The school were meant to Kick him out so many times as they tried working with him but he didn't co operate, the workload got too much and he had to drop down to one a level a few months ago as it was too much work to do in such a short period of time.

He has a btec ict exam in a few days and hes done nothing for it - he can't even be bothered to work for one exam.

He has said often that he regrets his behaviour as he knows he was capable of doing more and maybe going to uni in September, I wouldn't be bothered if he chose not to go to uni but I think he needs his a levels.

Anyway, after a long wasted two years, reality has kicked in as he now wants to have a good career and has found out that if he were to start a two year a level course at an FE College, his education wouldn't be funded from September 2020 onwards.

He now wants the option to go back to school next year and repeat Year 13 - is it likely after all this carry on that they'll have him back?

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Chilledout11 · 08/06/2019 17:17

He did very well - I certainly wouldn't criticise him at all. 7 is lower than most students and grades are very good but maybe he genuinely finds the work really difficult and this is causing a lack of interest and he is avoiding failure by choosing to ignore deadlines etc. I mean this very very kindly.

user20 · 08/06/2019 17:17

@titchy no he hasn't asked yet - he is going to see the principal in about a weeks time to ask them and see what they say

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user20 · 08/06/2019 17:16

@noblegiraffe I don't know why, it must just be a school thing, they must not have been able to fit anymore subjects on his timetable. He originally started of with 8 GCSE's but dropped one in year 10.

In my opinion, I think 4 As is extremely good, not many people get any As at all. And as for As, I don't honestly know why people seem to think that pupils need to leave Year 11 with as in their GCSE's, as long as they pass them all and their grades were enough for what they want to do, I don't see the problem. But if you need as to be considered an intelligent/smart pupil then god help the kids as not everybody will get a*s !

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titchy · 08/06/2019 17:14

Has school agreed to let him come back in September then? Wow!

user20 · 08/06/2019 17:09

@ChicCroissant yes I would agree that his dad and I were not firm enough with him, believe me his behaviour has caused a lot of tension in the house, there have been many arguments and confrontations with him over the past 2 years due to this situation, some were so bad I even told him to pack his bags and get out!

He is looking for a part time job this summer as he has now finished school, well until September anyway, so he can take over paying his phone bill if he gets a job and then he can get his gym membership back as he would be able to pay it.

He has said now that he has seen for himself the real life consequences of messing about and that it wasn't just everybody being dramatic and that he will wise up come September, problem is I hope he means that and won't ever do it again

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noblegiraffe · 08/06/2019 17:07

I think what is meant is that most students will get more than 7 GCSEs (why did he take so few?), and while 4 A grades are very good, they are not amazing, as there’s the A* above them.

He’s not what a sixth form would see as a top student expecting the best grades at A-level, his GCSE grades would put him somewhere more in the middle of an A-level cohort.

user20 · 08/06/2019 17:03

@Chilledout11 apologises if I'm interpreting this the wrong way and please correct me if I am wrong but how are his gcse grades not ok? He got 4As, 1B and 2Cs? They are fantastic grades! I can't see what's wrong with them? He passed all 7 GCSE's and 4 of those 7 subjects he got an A in?

He worked very hard during year 10 and year 11 so he deserved his amazing gcse results and how he behaved at school with his a levels was so different to how he worked for his GCSEs.

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ChicCroissant · 08/06/2019 16:58

So no consequences for his behaviour apart from the loss of gym membership this week, after two years of inertia, and he's still got his phone which you say is the main distraction, OP Hmm

He's not going to study anywhere because he has no motivation. You really should think about directing him towards employment now. I can see that you are angry about what has happened OP, but you could have taken steps to sort this so much sooner than right before the one exam he is taking.

Chilledout11 · 08/06/2019 16:51

I used to work in a sixth form college and while the GCSE grades were very good, he has seven and three were b and c grades. Usually candidates with results like that have to work incredibly hard to achieve decent A Levels

Jellyshoeshurtmyfeet · 08/06/2019 16:41

My DS left school after GCSEs tk ho to college but hated it and wanted to go back to school to do A levels. He wasn't the best student so I really didn't think the school would take him back but they did. They treated him like a new student and made him interview for a place in 6th form. He is now coming to the end of yr 12 and has just turned 18. His friends are all doing their A levels but he's a year behind them. It's been the best thing he ever did. He realised he made a mistake and he's grateful to school for a second chance. Maybe your DS might recognise a second chance too.

Arriettyborrower · 08/06/2019 16:29

user20 it does sound like he is phone addicted - I can see how that happens, but you could have taken it away from him, he is living the life he is with no consequence. This isn’t ok regardless of him being an adult or not.

My eldest DS repeated year 12, he didn’t miss school, he just did not try in year 11/12 at all. He realised that he was failing himself and did really well in his repeated year.

I do feel responsible as I had two much younger children and was working full time, I probably took my eye off the ball with him - they are vulnerable at this age, on the cusp of adulthood but really not emotionally mature to understand that they are making decisions that impact on the rest of their life. It’s a delicate balance as a parent.

Good luck!

hmwhatsmynameagain · 08/06/2019 16:26

My DS sounds similar, he dropped out completely last January in year 13 and was quite down so I didn't push him. He did have a part time job that time upped to full time hours and paid me rent money. He saved the rest of his earnings and took home self of to Aus for a 'gap' year this feb. He is now currently working over there after 2 month long holiday where he spent all his money.

I don't know what the future holds for him when he returns to the UK next year with only good GCSE results behind him, but I hope the year in Australia having to stand on his own 2 feet will have made a change in him and he will have grown up and come back with some sort of focus with where he is headed in life.

JuniperNarni · 08/06/2019 16:16

He should definitely ask.

I was your son 10 years ago, I massively regret now not asking to resit a year. A levels are extremely expensive and difficult to dive back into. Of course there are other options if the school say no but I would certainly suggest he enquires now.

It's not as though it will be fun and the easy option, he will be in a different year group away from his peers and starting again, the only way he will stick to it is if he is determined.

user20 · 08/06/2019 16:14

@FriarTuck true I suppose. Shocking to say but I suppose it would have made him go to school and worked if he realised there was no phone

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FriarTuck · 08/06/2019 16:07

How could me and DH take his phone off him really?
Well you pay the bill so of course you could take it off him!

user20 · 08/06/2019 16:05

@EvilTwins yes I think they should have took action and told him to go - it would have been awful at the time but as you say - he would have been able to start an entirely new course in September past and still got a levels without having to pay a thing

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EvilTwins · 08/06/2019 14:00

It kind of sounds like the best thing would have been for the school to kick him out in Year 12. That way, he might have had the wake up call and he'd still be able to start again on a more appropriate/interesting course or get his act together and start the A Levels again.

I guess it's as it is so that kids can't just be eternal Key Stage 5 students - I teach one or two who would like to be Grin

user20 · 08/06/2019 13:24

@EvilTwins goodness it really does seem like a messy/expensive situation! 😱

I think DS is kicking himself because he didn't consider the long term implications of being truant from school all the time during sixth form. He was in tears yesterday as he realised what a mess he has made and the amount of money he has now cost himself!

I struggle to have sympathy though as he was warned to go to school and do his work!

I'm not blaming the school, they have been really good with him, but I do feel it may not have even harmed him had they kicked him out in Year 12 to give him the wake up call he needed

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EvilTwins · 08/06/2019 13:16

user20 - it's not as simple as that.

A Levels are funded as long as the student starts them in the year they turn 19 (thought the funding drops a bit) but not if that student already has Level 3 qualifications.

I run a 6th form course and have a girl in Year 12 who is already 19 - she will be 20 when she finishes the course. She will be funded throughout but she didn't have A Levels (or equivalent) I also have 2 in Year 13 who are a year older than they "should" be, but they started 6th form elsewhere and dropped out before the end of Year 12. Therefore they don't have any Level 3 qualifications and the funding was available.

Hope that makes sense. What that potentially means for your DS is that because he has completed year 13 and taken the A Level, he may not be eligible for any further funding. Check with the school - they will know how their funding works. He certainly won't be able to enrol on a college course because he will have completed 6th form.

user20 · 08/06/2019 13:10

@EvilTwins yes it could well be a problem. I'm no expert in this, in fact, I'm clueless, but as far as I'm aware a levels are funded up until the end of the academic year in which the pupil turns 19. DS turns 19 in spring next year so in other words he will be funded in 2019/20 but in the following 2020/21 school year starting in September 2020, he would lose his funding then

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EvilTwins · 08/06/2019 13:05

The issue with school may well be funding. 6th form funding is only available if the student in question has not already completed Level 3 (ie A Levels or equivalent) qualifications so he may not be eligible anyway. By all means speak to the school but bear in mind that starting Year 12 again to do a vocational course at a college is unlikely to be an option because he has already completed 2 years of KS5 education. It's not as simple as wanting to do another year and therefore being allowed to do so.

user20 · 08/06/2019 12:57

@ElectricLions I have stopped his gym membership within the last few days per the advice in this thread.

I will, however, be keeping on his phone as he will need it for texting/phone calls. At the end of the day, he is 18. How could me and DH take his phone off him really? He's an adult now (although he doesn't act like it!)

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user20 · 08/06/2019 12:53

@Phineyj ummm sorry but I actually disagree with you there - he got 4As, 1B and 2Cs in his GCSEs - what is wrong with that? His GCSE grades were fantastic.

Like I said in my OP, he is an intelligent guy and he had the potential for doing well in both his AS' and A levels had he put the work in! I think getting 2Ds and a C at AS with no work and poor attendance speaks for itself! Think what he could have got in his AS' had he actually worked!

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user20 · 07/06/2019 14:54

Hi all,

Yeah tbh I'm just at the end of my tether with him. I'm so so angry that he has just sat back and done nothing and only realises now that he has made a mess of things.

I don't know whether he genuinely regrets it or not. I caught him in tears this morning and he said how could he have been so stupid and that he agrees how lazy he has been.

I completely agree that DH and I weren't firm enough so his gym membership has now been cancelled but I'm keeping on his phone as I'm not going to leave him without that more so because of texting and phone calls but once he gets a part time job he can start paying it

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Phineyj · 07/06/2019 08:58

If he does actually want to earn and has a genuine interest in ICT then the network support industry are crying out for staff. An apprenticeship in that area would be worth investigating. He's got the GCSEs to get onto most apprenticeships I'd think.

You need really good careers advice from an unbiased and knowledgeable source asap.

As a sixth form teacher, I'm afraid those GCSE scores wouldn't have suggested he'd find A-level easy even if he had worked. He may well be lacking in the study skills if he didn't work hard at GCSE and doing well at A-level requires the understanding that it's a big step up.

Anyway, get unbiased advice if you can. Not just from the school.

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