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DS wants to repeat Year 13

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user20 · 04/06/2019 11:44

Hi,

My 18 y/o DS who is in Year 13 and is due to finish school forever at the end of this year is wanting to go back next year to repeat the year. He is currently out on study leave.

Basically, he is only doing one a level as his attendance was below 80%, not just this year but last year in year 12 too.

He has had no valid reason for this behaviour, he has just been lazy and made excuses and turned up to school whenever and when it suited him.

He is an intelligent guy, he got 4As and 1B and 2Cs in his GCSEs, It has annoyed me and my DH a lot over the last two years that he has wasted his potential like this, he could have done so much better.

I just want him to have a better life and employment opportunities.

He just seemed so distracted over sixth year, he just seems to be always on his phone and listening to music and on social media. he was missing deadlines, not revising for exams, well last year he did but left it to very close to the exams and came out with 2Ds and a C in his AS exams which is impressive for somebody who didn't bother going to school or revising.

The school were meant to Kick him out so many times as they tried working with him but he didn't co operate, the workload got too much and he had to drop down to one a level a few months ago as it was too much work to do in such a short period of time.

He has a btec ict exam in a few days and hes done nothing for it - he can't even be bothered to work for one exam.

He has said often that he regrets his behaviour as he knows he was capable of doing more and maybe going to uni in September, I wouldn't be bothered if he chose not to go to uni but I think he needs his a levels.

Anyway, after a long wasted two years, reality has kicked in as he now wants to have a good career and has found out that if he were to start a two year a level course at an FE College, his education wouldn't be funded from September 2020 onwards.

He now wants the option to go back to school next year and repeat Year 13 - is it likely after all this carry on that they'll have him back?

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TeenTimesTwo · 08/06/2019 21:44

I think I'd be starting with 'get a job' whilst considering other options. Depending on where you live places take on extra staff over the summer, eg cafes, tourist places etc. Or go down to a jobs agency and see what temp stuff they have. Don't wait until Sept.

Then in parallel he can research other options such as apprenticeships, access courses, whatever. Don't let him drift for the next couple of months. He's had his holiday whilst skiving off, now is the time to work.

Beach11 · 08/06/2019 21:42

If he repeated y13 he would still only have 1 a level. Sixth Form don’t teach a 2 year course in 1 year and the courses are linear.

What about looking into a Level 3 apprenticeship instead?

user20 · 08/06/2019 21:35

@EvilTwins he needs to now forget about school.

No I just wondered about the attendance codes as i wasn't sure if they send this to the EWO or not even though he is above 16. Must say I was surprised they are even recording him as S during study leave and not O, i thought considering his circumstances they would continue using code O

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ChicCroissant · 08/06/2019 21:34

he just stopped attending classes and didn't show up to his exams for those two subjects and his entries were never cancelled.

If he wants to continue in education, he's going to have to find a way to pay for it then.

EvilTwins · 08/06/2019 21:31

S is study leave. O is unauthorised absence. It’s all a bit irrelevant. He’s had his 7 years of government funded secondary education. He doesn’t get any more.

user20 · 08/06/2019 21:27

@cantkeepawayforever @EvilTwins yes sorry it's actually 'O' he has been marked as , I got mixed up. He's marked as S all this month and last month

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user20 · 08/06/2019 21:25

@pikapikachu good idea but DS says the careers teacher is off on sick leave and won't be back until September

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pikapikachu · 08/06/2019 21:24

Have you made an appointment with the careers advisor at his school? I'd be doing that in your shoes so that you can work out a realistic plan.

cantkeepawayforever · 08/06/2019 21:23

S is study leave.
C is authorised absence ... which if he has simply been skiving is obviously a lie, though the school may have an internal reason why they have use this rather than O (absent without authorisation).

pikapikachu · 08/06/2019 21:23

I assume S is for study leave so if he's not in school it's not counted the same as if he didn't go in January.

cantkeepawayforever · 08/06/2019 21:21

Absence codes are:
here

titchy · 08/06/2019 21:17

He's sat his exams. That's it. End of. School can not get funding for him. He cannot pay them as they are not private. He's reached the end as far as school goes.

user20 · 08/06/2019 21:16

@EvilTwins god it really is a nightmare. He has a LOT of making up to do for this.

He's on his summer holidays now so he better start thinking about what action plan he has for September - this cannot go on anymore.

I'm sure your familiar with the computer system schools use - I think it's called SIMS? DS said that his form teacher showed him his attendance on it and he has been marked as code 'C' every time he's been off - what does that mean? He says he's been marked as 'S' all of May and June but I don't know how this affects him

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EvilTwins · 08/06/2019 21:10

OP he can’t go back to school and pay the tuition himself. That’s not how it works.

llangennith · 08/06/2019 21:09

My DS repeated lower sixth but still got crap A level results. He got accepted onto a physics degree course at a good university but had to do a year's sort of access course as part of the degree course and had to pass the first year to be allowed to continue.

They called it a four year course. He finally realised there were no more chances or excuses and he got his degree.

greenwaterbottle · 08/06/2019 21:04

Can you say what subject he's been doing?
We were told if it's not a solid a at gcse then they'll struggle at a level.
The only problem with saying you'll charge rent if he works is it's an incentive to stay in education, that he might not commit to.
Drop his contract down to min and texts only. He can buy bolt ins with his job.

Phineyj · 08/06/2019 21:03

OP, sadly it is a case of the school will not be eligible for the £4400 or whatever the per pupil grant is these days. It's not the same situation as someone who dropped out of a year and wasn't entered for the exams.

He could retake in a crammer but you'd have to pay yourself.

user20 · 08/06/2019 21:02

@pikapikachu it's really not pleasant. I just feel ill sitting back knowing DS is throwing his future away.

I wish he had just gone to school - he would be leaving school with 3 good a levels and it would be all over! Now he is costing himself more time and even money as he will have to pay his tuition fees and I certainly will not be using my hard earned cash for him to pay his way out of a mess caused by sheer laziness!

But yes I just wish he left school at the end of year 12 and went onto something different this year - he would be so much happier had he done that one simple thing

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EvilTwins · 08/06/2019 21:02

It depends entirely on the circumstances. If the other student(s) withdrew from exams and/or school then their circumstances are different. It’s not personal, it’s how 6th Form funding works. Students do not get three years of KS5 funded, they get three years in which to complete their KS5 education. Your DS has completed his. Unsatisfactorily, yes, but he’a completed it so he does not deserve another £XK of government funding.

Phineyj · 08/06/2019 21:00

I don't think anyone reading this would think you didn't give a damn about your kids!

It is a hard thing when they are nearly adult and you have to let them suffer the consequences of their decisions. You never know though, it could eventually turn out to be the push he needs. Flowers

P.S. I overheard a really wise, near retirement colleague advising a student and her parents, distressed by what they felt was underperformance in final exams. She said don't look back, look forward.

user20 · 08/06/2019 20:57

@EvilTwins and I agree - he needs to grow up. I'm disgusted at what he's done - I've told him he's the only in the family to do this as we've all been hard workers. He keeps saying nonsense like "well I have nothing left here so I may as well kill myself" - I'm sick of his excuses.

I genuinely do think he has realised now (finally) what a mess he has made. He's been in tears and he has said that he can't believe what he's done.

I know as a teacher you agree with me that his behaviour is appalling but if his school are prepared to allow others with attendance issues back - why would DS be different? I've said before in one post that a person in one of his classes was spoken to about poor attendance and didn't do his exams either yet he is allowed back next year.

If nobody with similar circumstances to DS was allowed back I would agree entirely. But if they are going to allow one person back then I think DS should be taken into consideration. But when I say that I agree with them 100% that he should never be allowed back as his attitude towards them has just basically been "f*ck yous"

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pikapikachu · 08/06/2019 20:55

OP- I understand. I wish they'd kicked my son out in y12. The school bent over backwards trying to get him to attend (eg he was excused from Form time) They had countless meeting with him and he's so charming and convincing that they believed his lies hook line and sinker.
My son had terrible attendance because he chose not to attend and I couldn't force him to go to school. He's half a foot taller and knows what the consequences of not attending are but just couldn't find the motivation. I suspect that he won't get the C on results day. He went to his exam paper 1 and has paper 2 and 3 this week. It's possible that he's in his room studying but I doubt it.

user20 · 08/06/2019 20:51

@Teachermaths yes I agree and DS can pay for them. I will not be paying his way out of a mess he created

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EvilTwins · 08/06/2019 20:47

If he never officially withdrew from A Levels then you have no chance of getting him a 3rd year at 6th Form, sorry. In the eyes of the DfE, he has completed two years of KS5 education. The fact that he has come out of it with 2 Us and whatever he gets for his final exam does not mean he can resit yr 13. The funding is available for 3 years, yes, but that’s to take into account students who start late, or change from one thing to another, not students who don’t try and then realise too late that they should have done a better job. He will not be eligible for funding for a third year whether or not he writes a letter to the school.

Teachermaths · 08/06/2019 20:45

I'd be shocked if the school didn't bill you for the exams he didn't turn up for. Our school would.

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