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Should DC drop maths to improve her chances of meeting her Cambridge uni offer for history

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nandio · 07/03/2019 17:43

DC does history English economics and maths A level.

Cambridge offer for history is A star AA and excludes the maths.

DC is currently working at a B in economics and a C in maths based on mock results. Other 2 subjects are at A star.

Should DC give up the maths to concentrate on economics?

All advice very greatly received.

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nandio · 15/03/2019 23:44

Excellent news! Cambridge have said that DD can drop maths as it does not affect her offer. She is delighted so I am too. Thanks once again for the great advice everyone.

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Fantina · 13/03/2019 19:52

Which College has she applied to?

nandio · 13/03/2019 19:43

Just to update the thread, DD has yet to hear back from Cambridge after writing to them on 8th March.

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Wakk · 11/03/2019 20:31

I've taught sixth form before and agree that she ought to drop it. Best of luck to her.

nandio · 11/03/2019 18:30

Thanks again for all the comments. I appreciate you all taking the time to reply.

DD has written to Cambridge to ask if it's OK to drop the maths and she has discussed the idea with school who are being very supportive.

She is still attending maths lessons in the meantime but has been excused from homework.

I think the reason her offer excluded maths is because it is her worst subject. Maths is a perfectly fine A level along with economics and history for a history degree I'm sure.

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Moominmammacat · 11/03/2019 13:36

Cambridge told my DS to drop weak 4th AS and concentrate on subject he was applying for. (He didn't and went elsewhere ...)

IrmaFayLear · 11/03/2019 13:34

I'm sure I heard that if you put down 4, you had to sit 4. Otherwise people would be saying, "I'm taking 10 A Levels" which would look very impressive and then they'd have no intention of taking any more than 3.

Michaelahpurple · 11/03/2019 12:37

Oh that is very encouraging - thank you for the comment s

Penguinpandarabbit · 11/03/2019 11:20

I think History, Economics and Maths would be a suitable combination for a History degree though might be worth him considering Economics or PPE as well. Each college can have its own preferred combinations so its worth checking when time comes with that college. I read Economics - one college said you needed Maths and Further Maths, one said you didn't need Maths. I didn't have Maths so applied to one who said you didn't need it and apart from a compulsory maths exam in part 1, you could choose less mathematical options. Economic History and politics were options, actually history was compulsory.

WhyAmIPayingFees · 11/03/2019 11:11

Not sure you can infer that - the offer might have just been made on the three most relevant from the four being taken, rather than suggesting that maths itself is not desirable. Indeed, I was just on the web-site for King's Cambridge and it says.

"If you think that you would like to study an arts or social sciences course at university but you are not sure which one, then English Literature, History, languages and Mathematics are good keystone subjects: choosing one or more of these will provide a good foundation for your subject combination.

Other good choices....Economics...."

So the suggestion is that History and Maths is just fine.

Michaelahpurple · 11/03/2019 10:43

Slightly tangential, but can I just clarify about the maths being excluded? My son is choosing a levels at the moment and is trying to work out if history, economics and maths would be an acceptable combination for a history degree - if your daughter’s offer excluded maths from the offer satisfication conditions, it would suggest not.

WhyAmIPayingFees · 08/03/2019 22:30

Cambridge will not mind at all if you optimze your chances. I recall them asking me for a D in an irrelevant subject a long time ago! Focus the revision where it matters. Your kid could always just sit the maths with a whatever attitude.

bengalcat · 08/03/2019 20:07

If her offer is AAA then she needs to obtain those grades - from the mock grades you’ve given us it would seem sensible to drop one A level - mine already had a A in maths but doing three A levels ( inc furfher maths ) this summer - sadly flunked her Cambridge interview but her next two unis have ‘ weirdly ‘ made her offers of AA only - I would expect that you can only be certain of a place if you meet the offer so on the basis of the grades you’ve quoted I would advise to drop an A level - but do talk to her teachers as i would expect many but not all kids to exceed their mock grades ( assuming teachers have marked them hard ! )

SilentSister · 08/03/2019 14:19

They all got minimum 4 A/As and did masses of other stuff*

Well everyone I know who went to Oxford or Cambridge only got 3 ALevels at A*/A because that's all the school allowed them to do. Depends who you know I suppose!

Forestglade · 08/03/2019 13:56

Echo checking with her college before deciding. It's a few years ago now but dd was doing four, was having a wobble, and wanted to drop one (that wasn't particularly relevant to her future degree). Her college said she had to take the exam although her grade wouldn't be considered as it wasn't part of her offer. In the end she continued with four and it was fine, but worth checking.

Penguinpandas · 08/03/2019 13:53

My Cambridge offer named A Levels so its possible it did exclude maths. One of my A Levels was excluded and one had a grade stated.

OKBobble · 08/03/2019 13:50

They haven't specifically excluded the Maths they have just made a 3 A level offer so other than HIstory she could drop any of the others. However, that said my understanding is as mentioned above you do need to notify them of the drop.

Good luck with her A levels. I hope sge meets the grades. I think the other person who asked whether Cambridge is right for her as trying to say that of she is currently only working at a B and C in 2 of her A levels would she able to cope with the rigours of a Cambridge schedule rather than she is anyway intellectually inferior in any way. However if she drops a subject in order to bring her others up that will help. It is likely that the extra time and effort spent on maths would be much more wisely spent on improving her economics to offer level.

Glitterbaby17 · 08/03/2019 02:03

I did history at Cambridge and if it means she will bring the economics up to speed would drop the maths. Economics will be more relevant to the history degree, which is very focussed on depth of understanding for each subject. Good luck to her!

beardsturnmeoff · 08/03/2019 01:49

Def drop the maths if she can!

Penguinpandas · 07/03/2019 22:49

I would drop the maths though maybe ask her Cambridge college what they think - send an e-mail the admissions tutor.

I'm sure she will be fine - I went from a comp with 3 A Levels and beat the 2 private school boys with 4 and also I never used what you learn in the A Levels for the most part - may vary by subject. I can't see Maths A level being used much in a History degree and the fact they have excluded it from the offer implies they aren't concerned about her result, if any, in that. She sounds like a bright, lovely polite girl. I found Cambridge much easier and much more fun than A Levels and would definitely take the place.

nandio · 07/03/2019 22:37

talktoo I'm guessing the admissions team think so or they wouldn't have made the offer. Are you suggesting otherwise? Many students who don't get an offer make the grades, so contrary to popular belief it's not all about the grades. She will still need to get Astar AA that being said. If she drops the maths she'll aim for 3 Astars.

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talktoo · 07/03/2019 21:38

Everyone I know who went to Cambridge were excelling at school. There was no issue with failing subjects or getting Cs. Or having to drop subjects. They all got minimum 4 A/A*s and did masses of other stuff. Are you sure Cambridge is right your your dc?

nandio · 07/03/2019 20:56

It turns out that a friend with a Cambridge offer for medicine wrote to their college to tell them they were thinking of dropping their EPQ and economics. They were told not to drop them but to sit for the exams. Apparently it's OK if they get a U grade.

What's the point of that I wonder?

DD says that if they said the same to her she wouldn't mind as they would be giving her permission not to study for the maths.

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nandio · 07/03/2019 20:46

Thank you all so much for your valuable insights. She is feeling much more confident about dropping it now. She has covered all of the content for maths and is glad to have the knowledge. DH thinks it's a shame to not get a qualification in it.

The AS idea is interesting but she now seems to just want to focus on the 3 that matter. She also feels that she could push her maths up to an A if she spent more time on it. In a strange way that feeling is making it easier for her to give it up.

She says thank you all very much.

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Bunnylove83 · 07/03/2019 20:16

I am a Head of Sixth Form, and we would definitely recommend in this case that she drops Maths. If she was achieving high Bs then maybe not, but in this case it makes sense to concentrate on the other subjects.

The school will already have entered her for maths as the deadline was during February half term. However, exam boards recognise that there is still a lot of movement after this, so it will be free and no issue for them to withdraw her until mid-April. They can still do it after this time, but they would have to pay, and they could technically pass this cost onto you.

Your daughter should contact Cambridge to update them (despite it not being in her offer) and just to make them aware, or her Head of Sixth might do it for you. She should also inform her insurance offer. Cambridge will not care as it is not mentioned in their offer, and even if it is in her insurance then I've never known any university to change or withdraw an offer when a student drops from 4 to 3 subjects.

Good luck to her (and you as these are often stressful times!!)

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