Toilet doors ( not cubicle , main) on female toilets have been removed at dds school ! WTH??

DS’s new-build secondary school has openplan toilets leading off the main corridor: boys on one side and girls on the other. They look safe and clean (I’ve spent a fair amount of time there for various meetings).

DD's school toilets are unisex with a large glass panel so anyone can see in from the other side of the corridor.

I would ask though whether they have also come off the boys’ toilets (might depend on where the urinals are - in our school despite the doors being off I don’t recall seeing them, but for obvious reasons as above I also never looked to try to see if I could.

My school was like that (doors removed) over 30 years ago to reduce smoking and bullying. It never actually bothered us - what bothered us more was those were the days when the only sanitary disposal was a communal incinerator on the wall by the basins. I felt a lot more self-conscious disposing of my massive sanitary towels. I don’t ever recall boys looking in or, heaven forbid, coming in. I think anyone who had tried it would have been in a huge amount of trouble with their peer group and forever labelled as a “pervert” - worse than almost anything else the staff could have done.

A my old secondary in 2005, they had cubicles facing the corridor, with doors that were flimsy and not floor to ceiling. God help the person who had an upset stomach. Every passing person could hear and smell everything.

Maybe they've had problems with fighting/bullying/vandalism, so they think the kids will be safer like that. No one should be able to see them using the loo from outside though, even just their feet. Are you sure they can be seen using the loo from the corridor?

Wow that’s awful. Many girls would be put off using the toilets, especially the sanitary bins if they thought passing boys could guess what they were doing.

We have toilets that are open to the corridor but they are floor to ceiling.

I’d complain about the lack of privacy.

Totally normal in schools. Bathrooms tend to be where there's a lot of anti social behaviour such as smoking and bullying, so staff need to be able to intervene quickly. Visibility means it's far less likely to happen in the first place. No one can see anyone using the toilet.

Newest toilets at my old school were just a row of female and a row of male (back to back), the block was open to the corridor. It was to prevent vandalism and bullying, hard to shove someone's head in the basin in that scenario.

What is so bad about people seeing that someone is using the toilet? All they will see is a pair of feet and a school bag, they won’t know who it is or what they’re using it for. Or someone washing their hands maybe. Am I missing something? I’m really not seeing the issue.

A lot of new school toilets are purposely designed like this. Behaviour in many schools is such that staff need to see what’s going on.