Toilet doors ( not cubicle , main) on female toilets have been removed at dds school ! WTH??

I think your average adult female would be very unhappy if they rocked up to the bogs and they were all open with no doors

For that reason i am unsure why childrens toilets are being left so open and we are expecting children to just get on with it

I am very pleased that the toilets at the locsl school have doors on

There are no door on the toilets at dd's school. I think it's a great idea. She says no one smokes in the toilets like they used to when I was at school.

Girls toilets are notorious for being disgusting in Schools, colleges and pubs and clubs. Girls can be and are minging. When I was a cleaner I hated being allocated the girls toilet.
We never had doors into the toilets when I was a school just individual cubicles once in the room. And that was 30 years ago so it's not a new thing

There are good reasons as detailed upthread as to why not too closed in toilets can reduce unsocial behaviour.

However, these need to be properly designed. I've been in schools where the toilets are a bit like those in service stations - wide, open access with no main door, but with cubicles out of sight from outside the toilets and sinks nearest to the door.

These work fine and are different to just taking the main door off, which doesn't provide a reasonable degree of privacy.

Not for the first time, feeling very pleased dd will be in a girls school from September

I do think things are different in a girls school. I should have clarified that in my school (the one I described with the disgusting behaviour in the toilets), there are no girls. Probably explains the state of the toilets!!

Well, I was going to suggest that if you had a girl who could pee into the toilet roll dispenser then probably you should sign her up for gymnastics immediately! But since they're boys doing these things, it's not as impressive.

Exactly noble

Lots of public loos don’t have a main door but they don’t have clear sight of the cubicles from the corridor. It’s always around a corner.

Loads of public loos don't have a main door to them. Can't really see the issue I have to confess. Except for the smell that must emanate from them (especially the boys' ugh).

I do think things are different in a girls school. I should have clarified that in my school (the one I described with the disgusting behaviour in the toilets), there are no girls. Probably explains the state of the toilets!!

I thought DD’s school with shabby toilets and (a few years ago) blocked drains was rather off putting. Reading this thread I think she is one of the lucky ones. They have doors, good behaviour and no shenanigans like ones on this thread. I am shocked at what others say goes on.

DD is at an all girls school. The girls are supportive of each other and it has been a nurturing environment for feeling fine about periods and not embarrassed. I love the fact her class mates can pass a spare sanitary pad across a classroom when a friend has been caught without one, without ridicule. This is unlike the memories I have of co-Ed and the boys being merciless in their confiscating of these items and nicking them out of bags.

What a world, eh? Girls can’t have privacy in the loos because other pupils can’t be trusted to behave decently,
Wasn’t the case when I was at school.
This explosion in poor behaviour needs dealing with.

Sounds dreadful OP

I would be asking the school why they have decided to d it, what they hope to achieve and whether it was for a trial period

I work in a new high school. We have numerous sets of toilets, all of which are open to the corridor. There are always 4 cubicles and 4 sinks, with the sinks being closest to the corridor.

There are no downsides to it and it's very difficult for anyone to hide or bullies to 'get' people as it's all visible to anyone walking by.

I am an ex-nurse and I have seen no evidence of girls refusing to drink and getting urine infections, in fact it's the opposite! There are water machines near every toilet area and there's a constant flow of pupils filling up their water bottles.

I went to high school in the 80s. We didn't carry water bottles or have access to drinking water during the school day, yet there were very few urine infections among pupils.

Open plan toilets really aren't the work of the devil.

Curly at my school we have self-contained cubicles with washbasins, and CCTV outside the doors. There is no main door.

It’s unacceptable to remove the main door while the cubicles are exposed.

So if I wanted to solve the problem like you asked, I’d sort the cubicle doors, then install CCTV.

and how would you do this close monitoring with main door on the toilets?

CCTV outside the toilets and close monitoring.

The people who think it’s not on, what would be your solution to the issue of kids deliberately pissing on the floor, in bottles and leaving them in the cubicles, IN the toilet roll holders, smearing shit in the cubicle sides. Leaving a whole turd on top of the toilet roll holder. This is on top of the “tamer” stuff like blocking the plug holes with toilet paper and leaving the taps running; blocking the toilets with whole toilet rolls.

Hmm??? How would YOU solve those problems?

OP - I suspect that the school sees removing external doors as a way of managing behaviour / vandalism. However, it displays a real lack of respect for children and their rights to privacy and dignity. Maybe she (or you) can ask if this is now policy and whether all the toilets (including staff) have their main doors removed? (They won't have removed the doors in staff toilets )
It's worth remembering that have schools must have single sex toilets for all children after the age of 8. Sometimes schools that fail to respect the rights of children in this way are sadly at the forefront of removing the specific rights of girls to privacy, dignity and safety)
The details are in this document - last para.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/719398/Gender-separation-guidance.pdf

I guess it depends how open they are.

At our old school the main door was wedged open but the toilets were round the corner so the cubicles weren't visible from the corridor but the wash basins were.

You can have open-plan wash areas and floor to ceiling cubicles if you’re worried about vandalism.

Or entirely enclosed cubicles containing a washbasin and drier.

I wonder how many adults would be happy if their work toilets opened onto a corridor.

OP I think you also need to understand that lots of girls are put off using school toilets due to bullying, intimidation and vandalism that occurs in the old style toilets.

I think there is good and bad about both styles. It's not that segregated toilets are without problems or that everyone is happy to use them.

DD's school toilets are unisex with a large glass panel so anyone can see in from the other side of the corridor.

Those toilets sound horrendous!