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Mixed ability or streamed for an able child?

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hippospot · 24/09/2018 09:35

Need to choose between two secondary schools soon.

Both Ofsted outstanding, both mixed, both will get some intake from DD's primary.

School A is closer (15 min walk), newer (no results yet though that doesn't worry me), smaller, fewer facilities, fab head. Mixed ability for all subjects except maths.

School B is further (30 min walk), bigger, well established, excellent facilities, fab head. Streamed for most subjects.

DD is very academically able, was pretty bored in year 5 as found lessons easy and pace too slow.

I prefer School B as I think being in top stream will stretch her more and I do worry that in mixed ability class there might be more disruption.

I was picked on at school for being "studious" at a mixed ability school. It was not cool to be clever. I also found learning to be frustratingly slow-paced and got fed up of disruptive children slowing things down even more by needing to be told off constantly.

Should I even be worried about this?

Academically I think she'll do well in either school because she is conscientious and motivated, but I want her to be able to find her "tribe" and not be at all ostracised for being bright.

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VeryBerrySeptember · 24/09/2018 10:02

All other things being equal: Streamed.

sashh · 24/09/2018 10:01

Do they stay streamed / unstreamed all through?

My school started with everyone in mixed ability and by (what was then third year) year 9 the only things not steamed were RE, home economics, art and needlework.

Where will she be happy?

Gingernaut · 24/09/2018 09:59

B.

Mixed ability classes were awful.

Large, loud and because I was plodding along as average ability inspite of high intelligence, no one spotted my dyslexia or ADD.

Truly grim school record with no A levels or polytechnic or university applications.

Haireverywhere · 24/09/2018 09:56

Sorry posted too soon. School B for it's established set up, facilities and streaming.

Haireverywhere · 24/09/2018 09:54

From what you've posted, school B.

Pythonesque · 24/09/2018 09:50

To work really well, mixed ability classes need teachers to be better skilled than when they have a streamed class. My (not large, not UK) secondary school was largely streamed, but syllabus rearrangements to give us more subject choice in the middle years meant that we went to effectively unstreamed classes for things like History, Geography and French. We had utterly brilliant history teachers who continued to do brilliant things that engaged both ends of the class. In other subjects it was more variable.

In terms of the cohort I think it is legitimate to think in terms of your children "finding their tribe" - if you have a group where you comfortably belong, it is much easier to develop the confidence and social skills to mix with a wider range of people. I didn't "find my tribe" until I was at university so this has been part of my thinking with my own children. Hasn't entirely worked with my daughter I suspect (but she does have an academic peer group to challenge her, just not mixing socially with most of the girls). My son has just moved schools and is looking so confident and comfortable in his new environment I'm a little bit jealous :)

So on your estimations at the moment I'd probably say school B - but if you still have the opportunity, try to find out more about school A, talk to the head or other teachers, get more of a feel for the environment. I could imagine that they might create one top and one lower class for some subjects eventually even if they were otherwise mostly unstreamed, for example. Good luck with the process.

hippospot · 24/09/2018 09:47

To clarify, maths is streamed in both schools.

Speculoos you are right that the bigger school offers more subjects too. It offers more languages and being a linguist myself this does appeal (though at this stage my DD hasn't had enough exposure to languages to know if this is her thing or not).

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Speculoos · 24/09/2018 09:42

If it's bigger they might be able to offer more subjects and there'll be a bigger pool of kids to make friends from

Speculoos · 24/09/2018 09:41

I'd pick school B because of it being well established, excellent facilities, fab head. Streamed for most subjects.

FlumePlume · 24/09/2018 09:39

From what I’ve read on here, the research show mixed ability works better for most children, but not for the top 10% or so. I was certainly put off a school that doesn’t stream for maths where the maths teacher at the open morning explained that my dd would enjoy explaining things to the rest of the class - what a way to single out a child and set them up for bullying.

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