11+ waiting for results

It is definitely today for glos? Someone (in education) told us it was Monday! The letter from glos cc about secondary transfer helpfully says Monday 12th October... So is it Monday or the 12th?! Lol

I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you mumoftwins (and everyone else). Sorry for derailing about Bennett, it’s not so much the religious criteria that annoys me but the way they implement it. If they had a catchment area with children of faith within that area at the top followed by other children next, then children of faith from outside the area it would be so much fairer (and there would be fewer buses clogging up the backroads in the mornings).

Anyway, it’s a moot point for me now as DD passed.

Oh mumoftwins, tricky situation, sounds as if you have a good work around.

I really feel for those picking up results at end of school day.
Ours come to the house by email, so we can decide how and when to share.

Mimena, there is a thread under Glos on 11+ very similar to this one, with everyone biting their nails, but it will be busy today as we all get ours today.

Thank you @steppemum you're absolutely right about our kids chances in life not being based on one test.

Mumoftwins good luck for later - that sound like a really good way of doing it with your twins. A nervous hour or so though!

Out of curiosity, as you’re not in Bucks but are sitting the Bucks test, how do you get the results? Our school gives the results in an envelope to the kids today but I presume it’s different if you’re not at a Bucks primary?

Thanks for that. I’m registered on the site, have only posted a few times asking daft questions this time last year, but will keep an eye out there later today!

they deliberately put the open evenings after results and before CAF, so that anyone who didn't get what they expected can come and make decisions.
They are open to all, year 5, year 6 etc.
For those that haven't got an open evening, you can always phone up and ask for a visit, most will do that.

On your result sheet they will tell you what they did last year wrt ranks, so
Your dc has passed, with a rank of 245, last year we took down to 350.
That way you have a really good idea if you will get a place.

Are you on the 11+ forum? The glos lot are quite nice!

Waiting for Glos here too steppemum. I know there’s a couple of schools holding open evenings in the next couple of weeks before the CAF deadline, do you know if the others tend to offer something for the kids who have been ranked? I’d be keen to revisit IF we get the right results.

for the PP who asked about selective v. superselective.
Go back and visit both school. Look at which one would be best for YOUR CHILD. Look at their interests, strengths, weaknesses and how the school addresses them. If you have the choice between 2 schools which are both academically good, then I would choose the school where he/she will be happiest. Happy children work harder and do better.

Oh, today is the day for Glos.
Well don all you who have passed.

I was having a philosophical moment last night, and was thinking this, and I thought I'd share, especially for those who don't get the results they want:

It has been shown that kids who do well in life have high emotional intelligence as well as high IQ.
All our kids (I am assuming) come from families which are generally loving and stable and concerned with teaching them positive values, kindness, etc, so they should develop high emotional intelligence.
All our kids are also in the top 10/20% in terms of intelligence. Even if they don't pass, they, by the very fact they were able to be put in for the exam, are in that top percentage.
The single biggest factor in determining how well a child does in school, is how supportive the parents are. By going through this process and sitting here worrying, we have demonstrated that we are concerned and supportive. (or, as some on here have said, by considered schools and deciding not to go through the process because that is best for OUR child)

So, whichever school our children end up in, we should remember that they have all life's advantages stacked in their favour, and they are likely to succeed in life.

Obviously there will be exceptions, and life throws in curve balls when we least expect it, but right now, as I sit here biting my nails, I need to take a step back, and remember all of that.

Bucks results out later today. Good luck everyone!

don’t think there’s much Christian about a school which fails to serve the needs of the local community. Not all children fall into the neat two camps of church going and not doing the 11 plus or being tutored for the 11 plus. As it stands a child can live minutes from the largest comprehensive school in the area, watch a stream of busses come in every day bringing children in from miles around and not be able to go to that school because their family doesn’t have, or fake, faith.

Brilliantly put.

Helipad - I have some experience of this, feel free to PM me for more info. DS (Y10) is at an SS and doing well - sure, there are some stellar kids there but the majority are like him. I was nervous of sending him there, but it was absolutely the right choice.

Absolutely. Having a strict religious entry criteria is a well known ploy of schools to keep the “riffraff” out. In theory religion is open to all, in practice a child from a chaotic and dysfunctional family is very unlikely to have parents with either the will or the ability to for fill that criteria. At least grammars don’t pretend to be anything other than elitist, a comprehensive school should be comprehensive.

@Fontofnoknowledge where we live going to church is a very middle class activity so your argument is flawed from the outset.

If Bennett had been an option I probably wouldn’t have put DD through the 11 plus. Which one is morally worse, faking religion for a school place or tutoring for grammar?

I don’t think there’s much Christian about a school which fails to serve the needs of the local community. Not all children fall into the neat two camps of church going and not doing the 11 plus or being tutored for the 11 plus. As it stands a child can live minutes from the largest comprehensive school in the area, watch a stream of busses come in every day bringing children in from miles around and not be able to go to that school because their family doesn’t have, or fake, faith.

Sorry, don't to want to derail thread. But Font, you're incredibly defensive about Bennett! I know how academically strong it is. I'm basing on a small sample, but the children I know who go there are one who failed 11+ and one who chose it despite an 11+ pass. But you're misunderstanding me - Bennett wouldn't have been our actual second choice, even though academically it would suit DS well, because I would have to have lied to get in there. How would that have made me morally superior to those who take the 11+? In an ideal world all schools would be first class true comprehensives, which cater just as well for v clever kids and not v clever kids. But in Kent, that school doesn't exist for us. So I will send my child to the school where I think he will be happiest and make best progress

@totallyliterally I think we must live a few miles up the road from you !

I think Tuesday is going to be horrible.

Brisklady . Surely you can see that by choosing Grammars for your 'academically inclined' child - as a 'best fit' , but then go on to say that Bennett would have been your second choice - then you are saying Bennett is not as acceptable for academic reasons (A non-selective comprehensive school that hasn't creamed off the top academic achievers , yet routinely places equivalent numbers as the Grammars at Oxbridge and RG unis. )
It's for exactly this reason that Bennett has difficult entry procedures. To prevent parents who have thrown everything they've got - at 'getting their kids through' - then trying to get into Bennett as an after-thought , if they fail. Thus making Bennett a school for 11+ failures.
The VAST majority of children at Bennett opted out of the 11+. Their parents deciding from an early age they were not going to enter into the divisive and highly pressured system. They choose Bennett because it's NOT selective. Not because their children HAVEN'T BEEN selected.

Yes Bennett is based on church attendance , it is not based on the size of your wallet as Grammars now are.
Church attendance is open to all, no matter your income. This means that my children have attended a school with children from all economic backgrounds. (and religions by the way) .

By supporting an 11+ system that you 'don't like much' when you actually have the choice of a school with comparative results that doesn't categorise children at 11 as clever or stupid - only perpetuates the grisliness of the whole system.
That for me would be the greater moral dilemma.

Still waiting impatiently for Essex results though not expecting a pass having seen the raw score for maths last weekend. It's not something a lot of people, DH included, understand or care about so I'm keeping my anxieties inside!

It's been a long week although my DD came home yesterday with a certificate for demonstrating a "wonderful attitude towards learning" and has been nominated by her teacher to buddy some year 5's who are struggling - it sums her up really; she loves learning and praise and she's patient & kind in helping others who don't get it as quickly- the more I think about it I wonder if she's better suited to non-selective no matter the result.

The weekend is going to draaaag!

@Holidayshopping yes our catchment school is good, we are very lucky as a couple of miles up the road it's a different story.

In our old mixed faith london school Re was very much about learning about different religions and beliefs.

Now we are in a less diverse area it's about "let's all pray to Christian god who is actually real". I'm astonished they can do this.

Well done everyone for getting through this process. We celebrated when dd sat the exams as I wanted the message to be about her effort regardless of the result.

My DS1 got his Kent test result today too and it's a pass. I'm so pleased for him, he really surprised me with his focus and hard work all Y5. He got through with a very good margin too.

He's just above the scoring level to be able to apply to super selective schools too. Would he struggle there though as he's only about 10 points above the cut of point? How an earth are we going to come to the right decision??

He had tutor ever Saturday and dutifully did his home work but we weren't particularly pushy with him. I know another local family who's son had the same tutor as ours but he also went to group tutoring. So two lots of tutor home work on top of school work.

Being atheists, faith schools have been out of the question for us. I agree with Clitterati that school and religion shouldn't mix. It really irks me how much praying and god pushing is done in our DC primary school. And it's a fairly bog standard primary. When DC1 started there, it never occurred to me how much religion they actually push on the kids.

Still no word from Reading. The more I think about it, the more I feel DS2 can't have passed, as we did no tutoring, and only a few practise tests. And we're both hopeless at maths! 😆 He loves the local comp so I know he won't mind if he doesn't pass, but I'd hate it to dent his confidence.

MASSIVE congrats to all the lovely passers on here! Well done to all of you! And hugs to everyone who didn't get the result they wanted.