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All the country seems to be celebrating GCSE results, I am not!

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reasonableme · 27/08/2018 11:42

Dear Mums,

Please help me see light at the end of what seems to be a dark tunnel.

Everyone on Mumsnet is celebrating their children's GCSEs - most posts I read were talking about their DC's 8s and 9s with the least grade I read about being a 6. Clearly all those super accomplished children's parents are all on Mumsnet or vice versa which is why I think this is the right forum for my question.

My DD was predicted 6s and 7s in most subjects but she ended up with 4s and 5s in most with just one 6. She cleared the entrance exam for a private school for 6th form earlier but now lost out on that seat as she couldn't clear the entry requirements. No school in the vicinity wants to take her. She prepared very well for GCSEs spending several hours every day. I personally helped her with several hours of revisions, free science lessons on YouTube , flash cards, practice etc. She was in top sets in her school for almost all the subjects. I am really struggling to understand what happened that her marks were so bad across the board. University path as we know is literally over for her and her a levels are a big question mark.

The school (state school, ofsted good) hasn't bothered to get in touch with me after the results and surprisingly they didn't express any surprise at her results. I emailed them requesting them for a remarking and I asked DD to resit maths and English GCSEs in November. I am trying to get private tutors while trying to get her admitted to 'some' 6th form college. I suspect she has mild ADD as she is highly fidgety and is into mindless dancing with music blasted into her ears. I am planning to take her to an educational psychologist for help. Other than that no major distractions (as if that was not major)!

Both DH and I had high academic backgrounds and her disastrous results are depressing to all of us. I have not become normal 4 days since and have been crying for days now that all my dreams for her have been shattered. Most universities want consistent track record so GCSEs matter more than we wish they did. The results are poor in all the subjects so there is definitely a major disconnect somewhere. How do I see light and how do I move on?

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Aragog · 27/08/2018 12:20

Mumsnet is not reflective of the country in general. It's very self selecting as to who posts grades, obviously.

In real life most children do not have a string of 8s/9s. Most have 4-6 grades. It's just you don't hear about the 'average' kids. Infact 4-6 is above average if you look at the averages. It's more 3-5 grades that are average across the country.

Have a look at the analytics of the GCSE breakdowns - there's a thread on it in Education. It will put some of these grades into a better perspective.

It's essential that you are your child's cheerleader with this. They're not your grades. They're your DD's grades and it's her future, her dreams. Not yours. You can be her cheerleader, her supporter and her guider. But you're not her. Don't put that level of pressure on her.

Round here her grades would get her into school sixth forms to do A levels, including the good schools. Some ask for certain grades in certain subjects but not all, and even then we are talking about a grade 5/6 at most apart from Maths and Sciences.

For example in several schools here including two high achieving private schools, the general entry requirement is 6 GCSEs at grade 4/C and above. Some subjects ask for a 5 in one English subject. Some recommend a 5 in Maths in there is a mathematical element such as Economics. Some ask for a 5 in the subject being studied but not all. Maths asks for a 6 or 7 depending on the school.

Just like MN children's grades aren't representative of the country as a whole, neither are their schools and sixth forms. Please look at the actual schools in your area instead, and sixth form colleges etc. and their actual requirements.

bigKiteFlying · 27/08/2018 12:19

Has she spoken to a careers adviser?

She needs to do this - see what collegues or courses will take her and what course with spaces she is interested in.

university path as we know is literally over for her and her a levels are a big question mark.

Well A-level might not be best fit - but there are btecs and when she is slightly older access courses.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/gcse-results-2017-fail-help-11791709
www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-18883541

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Where can I go for more advice?

You can call the national Exam Results Helpline on 0808 100 8000.

The government website Directgov might also help you make decisions.

If you need help with career choices, you can email or telephone an adviser at the National Careers Service.

reasonableme · 27/08/2018 12:19

@NerrSnerr I have contacted all the local colleges and I am waiting for them to respond. Dd has been applying to several colleges herself. The problem is she was really expecting 7 in math and 6 in computers which were the entry criteria for the private school. She is shattered at her results and so am I. But reading through all these comments, it looks like not all is lost for university. Thanks for your support

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EllenJanesthickerknickers · 27/08/2018 12:19

My DS2 has just completed a level 3 BTEC in computing. It's the equivalent to 3 A levels. Computing is actually a really good subject choice for BTEC.

LIZS · 27/08/2018 12:16

She can still do a comp science degree. However if she goes down the A level route she might struggle with Maths from a 4/5 . Perhaps look at level 3 btec in IT or a related field or even an apprenticeship. However you really need to find out enrolment details for your nearest college offering it asap as these courses are popular.

NerrSnerr · 27/08/2018 12:12

Have you tried a sixth form college (as in stand alone, not attached to a school). They'll be able to advise what courses she'd get on/ have space and she can then look into what she'd like to do.

BlaaBlaaBlaa · 27/08/2018 12:12

Has she spoken to a careers adviser?

Piggywaspushed · 27/08/2018 12:09

Classic MN this. Many many schools take students for A levels with 4s and 5s . All grades 1 - 9 are passes, technically. A 4 is not a 'near pass'. In old money , it is a mid to low C. OK, so not what you, school or DD expected. But something to build on. I am confused as to why you think the school would contact you following under par results! This would be very unusual.

My DS's GCSE results last year were very meh, too. He doesn't work as hard as your DD and has variable focus. I do know how you feel. Howvere, as a teacher, I have taught students with excellent GCSE results who have bombed at A Level and students who have done really well at A level with humble GCSEs. (My DS is due to get a C at best in Spanish A Level with full marks at GCSE, for example). A lot of it is attitude.

University is certainly not over for your daughter! What a strange thing to think. Is she at a selective school? They tend to create rather skewed expectations and mindsets in children and parents.

reasonableme · 27/08/2018 12:07

@Saltycinnamon , she wanted to do computers and/or cyber law in a London university

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EllenJanesthickerknickers · 27/08/2018 12:06

Do consider a level 3 BTEC, maybe combined with an A level. My friend's DS got DDD in his BTEC and is off to study engineering at uni. He had similar GCSEs. If your DD has got 4 or 5 in English and maths she doesn't need to resit but can possibly resit just to try to increase her grades. Colleges are set up for resits, many sixth forms are not.

SelinaMyers · 27/08/2018 12:06

I really feel for you OP. The vibe I picked up on secondary school threads on here was 8 and 9’s are the norm. That is far from the truth. It’s only natural will feel disappointed with her grades if they are so different from the predictions.
However, I would be hesistant to ask her to re-sit both maths and English in November as she will have the pressure of starting college/sixth form and she has a 4 or 5 which colleges and six forms accept as a pass.

NerrSnerr · 27/08/2018 12:05

Has she looked into doing something at college? What subjects interest her? Does she have an idea about what jobs she wants.

I was an average student (got Cs at GCSE) and I am from a really clever family. It took me many years to realise I'm not thick and my grades weren't a failure. Please don't make her feel shit, maybe she doesn't go down the traditional academia route. Would that be such a disaster?

upsideup · 27/08/2018 12:02

So she passed them all? Its not the end of the world, tell her it will all be fine and get sorted out and keep contacting all the sixth forms and colleges near you, one will have her. I bet shes a lot more devastated than you especially if this is the way you reacted.
My DD1 did her GCSE's 7 years ago so I dont how its changed but she got all C's with a few B's, managed to get into a local sixth form to do A levels where she got AABB and then a place at uni, GCSEs did nothing for her except damaging her mental health.

Saltycinnamon · 27/08/2018 12:02

What were her dreams? Course/job?

bengalcat · 27/08/2018 11:59

Your dreams are shattered ! What about hers ?
Ok so she did her best ( as did you trying to help with revision and stuff ) so she needs to be congratulated in passing / perhaps near passing for the 4's amongst those 5's and 6's .
First what does she think of and how does she feel about her grades . We know how you feel and by the way i do sympathise .
What did she want to do at a level ? Was going to uni even part of her plan or say eg did she herself in a job that requires a skill not a degree ( that's most jobs by the way ) .
What you do next depends on her answers . Get a grip and help her with the next steps ( cry and have 🍸🍸🍸in private )

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 27/08/2018 11:58

If it helps, my dh had average gcse results. He went on to get good A levels, degree and good job. They are important, but they are not everything.
The most important thing is how your dd is doing. Her state of mind wont be helped by you getting upset.
Honestly, nothing that happens now wrt grades is going to ruin her life or be unfixable.

reasonableme · 27/08/2018 11:58

If parents boast about their children's great performance, it's beyond ok. If parents write about their children's unexpected results and are depressed about it because their children themselves are depressed, it's not ok? I don't know why it works one way but not another?

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SweatyFretty · 27/08/2018 11:56

How's DD doing? What does she think is the best course of action now?

ElizabethMainwaring · 27/08/2018 11:55

Hi. Sorry that you are so upset, and sorry for your daughter too. I hope that she doesn't feel guilty.
What is it that your daughter wants to study, what are her long term goals?

reasonableme · 27/08/2018 11:54

@picklepost , why do you think so?

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missyB1 · 27/08/2018 11:53

I note this OP gets no support or sympathy, yet all the recent posters saying their child only got 8s instead of predicted 9s, or only got Bs for their A levels got pages of supportive comments commiserating with them. Interesting.
OP is there anyone at school who would be willing to give you and dd a debrief meeting where you all try and work out what might have gone wrong? What does your dd think? Did she find the exams much harder than she expected?

buttybuttybutthole · 27/08/2018 11:52

I just don't understand really. She passed her exams?

There are many colleges who would take your DD with 5 passes. Vocational qualifications, the are so many opportunities which will probably suit your DD better.

Hope she is OK. My DS got 9 X 5s. I am beyond delighted with him. He is going to 6th form, doing a BTEC with one A LEVEL. he has a good future being who he is.

TheFifthKey · 27/08/2018 11:52

With 4s and 5s she’ll get into sixth form college if there’s one near you, but not necessarily on an A-level course. However vocational courses like BTEC can be combined with A level and are just as good for university entrance - especially courses more aimed at a student with gcse grades like that. All is not lost, but be realistic.

Saltycinnamon · 27/08/2018 11:52

What was her 6 in?

Haskell · 27/08/2018 11:52

Ok, what was the last tracking point/assessments sent home?
Easter, February? What did they say she was on track for?

What is your DD interested in? Is there a college near you that do btecs, or other vocational courses that she would enjoy and could do well on? Is university the be all and end all?

Lots of children have had short hard shocks last Thursday- of course their parents aren't the ones crowing about results in social media.
Don't worry about anyone else, just help your DD now. I know it's been a huge disappointment, but she needs to know you're there for her, and can help her shift gear and move on successfully from this. She will take her attitude from you- teach her that setbacks can be overcome, that one set of assessments aren't the only test she'll meet in life, and that success comes in many different forms- she just needs to find what it is she will be successful at.

Do keep contacting school about remarks. However, they're unlikely to accept her for resits if she isn't a member of their sixth form (my school doesn't, for example).

The sooner you investigate realistic alternatives, the sooner she'll get something lined up for September, and the sooner she'll move on from this, once she's confident and secure about her new direction. Good luck! Thanks

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