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As the Tiffin deadline looms, is there a girls SW London grammars / indies thread yet?

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FlumePlume · 26/08/2018 18:15

I just realised that I need to get the Tiffin Girls form in ASAP, and wondered if anyone else is in the same position? I could do with company in this process!

We’re not yet decided but probably applying to Tiffin, WHS, SPGS, Sutton High and maybe one of PHS / Emanuel / KGS.

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KaliforniaDreamz · 06/01/2019 13:34

Teacher Thank you so much. She seems quite relaxed today - knowing it's nearly all over is a sweet taste.

It says in the bumpf that this is not a personal statement so can't be prepared for. DO they interview them or is it written down?

Teacakesandcoffee01 · 06/01/2019 12:49

For SHS just make sure she can remember all the stuff she likes doing outside school, what she is good at and what she finds difficult. Perhaps go over a scenario where she put in effort to overcome something that was a challenge. It doesn't matter what it was, she needs to have a list of things in her mind. Remember the 6 super sports at the school are hockey, netball, tennis, skiing, rowing and gymnastics. Also what she wants to do when she is older ie teacher, doctor, etc.

KaliforniaDreamz · 06/01/2019 12:24

Hi All
Happy New Year!

Good luck to all kids taking exams this term. May the force etc...

my DD has a full day tomorrow then PHS wed morning then that's us done.
I was going to ask her to do some work today but i am not sure i see the point?!
What do you guys do at this late stage?
(no she isn't ready but surely it's too late to be ready?!)

Has anyone pracitised that write about yourself bit for SHS?
We haven't as i am not sure how to prepare her for it....

littlemisslucky2 · 05/01/2019 16:57

Good luck with exams this week/next week. My dd has 3 exams coming up. Not nice for 10/11 year olds to go through but hopefully worth it in the end. Worried about the numbers sitting these exams in ratio to places offered but what will be will be! I’ll be glad when it’s over.

FlumePlume · 05/01/2019 10:23

I quite like that it’s a long day - I think it gives her the chance to settle in, get a feel for the school etc in a way that the whizz them into a big hall where they sit for a couple of hours until released type exams just don’t. I like the idea of the WHS creative assessment morning for the same reason - it seems more individual and rounded (though marks in exams are still very important, I’m sure).

My dd had a very busy week back in November with three exams and an interview, which was hard going, but it does mean that January is relatively relaxed.

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Pa10ma · 05/01/2019 09:19

Thanks Flume. So about 450 then? Smaller numbers than some schools.
It will be a long day for them. DS has 4 exams in total next week, but then at least she’s all done (bar two interviews later in Jan and possibly another couple if we’re super lucky)!
I’ve had 2 others go through the process though, so that does help a bit!

FlumePlume · 05/01/2019 09:04

Pa10ma

There’s some guesstimates on numbers on p.10 of this thread. I’ve no idea if they are right: 700ish for stage 1, about 75% get through, then about 200 recalled for interview for about 100 places.

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Pa10ma · 05/01/2019 07:56

Flume - DD also has SPGS on Monday. Does anyone know the numbers sitting, compared to interviews offered?

We looked at the English paper yesterday which seemed ok. It looks like the other Comprehension paper could be in pretty much anything, so just hoping for the best with that one!

FlumePlume · 03/01/2019 21:41

SPGS for dd on Monday, then WHS the following Monday. Then it’s all over (unless she’s lucky enough to get an interview). She’s done a couple of the SPGS past papers from their website over the holidays, but it’s mostly been eating Christmas food and singing.

TheExtra Wow, an exam tomorrow. That’s very early, but nice to get it over with.

Sweet Happy new year to you, too!

Good luck, all!

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Jimjam68 · 03/01/2019 16:40

Surbiton on Monday and PHS on Wed for us next week. We have also done little or nothing over the hols. I hope that won’t come back to bite us!

TheExtraGuineaPig · 03/01/2019 16:08

Thanks! DD has Kingston Grammar tomorrow, she is thankfully calm about it! Then she has one on Monday, one Tuesday. Shame they're all so close but at least it's one short burst and all over

Sweetnhappy1 · 03/01/2019 14:46

Happy new year! Good luck to everyone going for independents. Our first independent is next Wednesday (PHS). Haven't got much done in these hols, after relaxing after the grammars it was hard to get the pace up again.

KaliforniaDreamz · 14/12/2018 11:49

Congrats on the Sutton offers.

Agree it's a choice. Just one i wouldn't make again ha!

xx to all

Jimjam68 · 14/12/2018 09:30

Yes just the card FlumePlume. I’m expecting the actual offer letter will arrive today hopefully.

FlumePlume · 14/12/2018 08:41

Congratulations to your dd, Jimjam! Did you get a letter, or just the note to your dd? The note was a bit light on details, but I haven’t had anything else through the post.

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Jimjam68 · 14/12/2018 07:53

Congrats FlumePlume, good news for us too from Sutton. A nice early Christmas present for DD.

FlumePlume · 13/12/2018 22:56

Thank you, Greenleave and Sweet. Dd is delighted (especially because the envelope was addressed to her, so she got to open it), and I’m so pleased for her.

I do think the prep school kids have advantages (in general, better music and sport teaching, wider curriculum, faster pace, less disruption) but we chose a state primary because we wanted a local school, little homework, mixed rather than single sex, and lots of time for extra-curricular stuff. I’m not sure how that plays out at 11 plus - there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Certainly all dd’s extra-curricular stuff gives her plenty to talk about at interviews.

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Sweetnhappy1 · 13/12/2018 22:47

Congratulations FlumePlume!

We're also coming from a state school, my DD has had some group tuition but is not hothoused by any definition. I do think prep school kids have some advantage, isn't that what the 'prep' bit is for? At the PHS interview some uniform blazers were heavily laden with badges, I'm not sure what interviewers would make of this. Luckily my DD wouldn't notice something like this/wouldn't be intimidated by this because her head is in the clouds.

I agree wholeheartedly with Montenuit, we're going through this process in order to increase our options, it's all totally voluntary and not essential but nice to have choices and my DD has enjoyed the ride so far (even the Tiffin queues!).

Greenleave · 13/12/2018 20:52

Many congratulations Flumeplume

FlumePlume · 13/12/2018 20:47

montenuit I agree, we are all very lucky to have these extra options. But I’m sure it doesn’t feel like it when you’re dealing with a disappointed dd.

FWIW, I haven’t done any interview prep with dd, I haven’t got her to read The Week (though she does usually watch Newsround at school, as it happens) or taught her about Brexit (though she was asked about it at the Sutton High interview). She just got a Sutton offer, so so far it seems to have worked.

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montenuit · 13/12/2018 18:33

The one thing that really helped my dd (and me!) through the process was to remember that this is a choice.
We are choosing to enter this process.
All it does is (hopefully) increase your options and give you some choice.
The government will make sure you go to secondary school - this is a bonus. No one is making you do it.

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KaliforniaDreamz · 13/12/2018 16:26

Hothouse TOTALLY!!!!!!

Glaciferous · 13/12/2018 13:19

Exactly the same point can be made about private senior schools. There are plenty of excellent state comps in the area and DCs there will do as well and even better than pupils at private senior schools.

This is very true. DD had some specific wants that made a private school more practical but they could also have been achieved with outside help at a comprehensive.

could help her more with home work

I've never helped her with homework! She's hardly ever had any, bar reading and times tables.

Re exam technique, it is honestly kind of common sense. But ten year olds are not really known for that particular quality so you might as well explicitly tell them!

Firstly, pace yourself. Have a quick read through the paper, identify (if possible) the questions that have lots of marks attached so you know where to spend the time. Make sure you know if there is say, a long question in the middle of the paper followed by lots of short ones or a long one in the middle and another at the end. You need to make sure you have enough time to do those long questions which usually have more marks attached. If there are two parts to the exam (like DD's SPGS English which was a comprehension and then a longish creative writing task), decide how you are going to split your time.

Leave some time to check your work at the end, too.

Second, if you get stuck on a question, don't spend ages getting bogged down in it. Move on to one you can do. You can come back to the one you couldn't do at the end, or later on if you have a sudden inspiration which does quite often happen.

Read the questions really thoroughly and more than once. Make sure you know what they are actually asking you to do. Answer the actual question, not the question you would prefer to be answering (more applicable to English etc but also possible to end up calculating the wrong thing in Maths).

Show every bit of working or every step of your logic. If you are not sure how to set it out, write a short sentence or two explaining what you are doing. Even if you get the final answer wrong, you will get some marks for knowing how to do it.

If you are running out of time, condense answers to the basics - eg use bullet points if you can. If you are really really running out of time, prioritise questions you know you will be good at if possible.

That's more or less it, I think.

Oh, another thing. Wear layers if you can. Being too hot or cold is really distracting so make sure you can cool down and warm up if necessary. Obviously not so easy if school uniform has to be worn. I did not send DD in uniform to her exams but I can see some schools might like you to.

Hothouseorflophouse · 13/12/2018 12:13

Kalifornia, that's a brilliant comparison to The Apprentice. It's absurd isn't it, that we're discussing what opinion a 10-year-old might have on Brexit.

I hated putting my child up for judgment and finding myself judging them myself - ooo they're not very articulate are they, they have no special talents etc instead of just celebrating their many qualities.

I'm not even sure it's all worth it. My older two are in very sought-after London school and I remember each time the results came in for 11+ feeling oddly deflated and bitter, even though they ended up doing really well. A bit like, oh so now you want my kids do you? I've seen the comparison here that these schools are like private hospitals that only take healthy patients, chuck out any that happen to get ill and then brag about how much better their doctors must be do have such low death rates compared with that crappy NHS hospital down the road.

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