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Gcse 2018 (10) The one with half term

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Stickerrocks · 26/05/2018 22:34

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/secondary/3256691-GCSEs-2018-9-Will-we-get-to-half-term-for-never-was-a-story-of-more-woe-than-this-of-Juliet-and-who-is-Banquo

Oops. Can't remember how to link nicely, so this will have to do.

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Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 15:45

Cblue please see the 253 & counting previous rants I've had along those exact same lines. Not to mention the discussion about how they will "die" if they don't get straight grade 9s (last year DD's school achieved a grand total of 5 grade 9s in maths & English and it's not a poor performing school). We use a tennis ball and racket in the same way as your punchbag.

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Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 15:42

idsisatwat We have AQA geography here, but does your DD have a case study with pre-seen material which she needs to cover. The AQA one is about an Oxfordshire reservoir this year. The teachers have given them a whole pack of potential questions around it to have a stab at. I didn't realise there was a higher paper - is it iGCSE?

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Cblue · 01/06/2018 15:41

Tried to post and failed miserably so may end up with 2 posts instead but.....

One of DDs gripes is its all anyone talks about. What revision did you do this morning, what are you revising, how did the exam go, what answer did you get for question 3, what grade do you think you got, what exam is tomorrow/this week/next week, how are you finding it etc etc etc from multiple people. It was just piling on the pressure she felt- she’s a bit of a perfectionist.

Trying hard not to talk to her about it (really hard) which is one of the reasons I joined MN.

Oh, and we have a punch bag that takes a regular pounding from both of us (she does martial arts whereas I am just stressed ha ha).

Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 15:40

mmzz He started under the English system doing years R to 5 alongside DD, then moved 400 miles away from home up to Scotland as a boarder when he was 10. He's the same age as all of ours and did his Nat 5s last summer when he was 15 and his Highers now at 16. As he only took around 8 subjects initially, then dropped down to 5, the Scottish system seems to not study things for very long. I wonder how they manage to cram in the same amount as A levels in such a short space of time.

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BlueBelle123 · 01/06/2018 15:20

Just catching up. The guardian article is interesting, I agree a change would be welcome so much pressure is put on them whether it's from school, themselves, peers or family to succeed and yet to me it's completely out of proportion to the importance of GCSEs, the vast majority of cases GCSEs grades soon become insignificant once the next step is reached.

I also think education should be taken out of the hands of politicians, and it should be the teachers who have the say as not only do they actually know what is going on in the classroom but they come from a much broader cross section of society so are better placed to make changes with everyone in mind.. just my thoughts!!

idsisatwat · 01/06/2018 15:15

And I’ve asked one of DS’s friends to come round and talk geography to her on Sunday. He’s doing geography at UCL, so should be able to put her mind at ease a bit.
Fingers crossed!!

idsisatwat · 01/06/2018 15:13

Thanks Cblue

I think that’s what’s thrown me as it’s out of character. Though have had more tears these last few months over exams than we’ve ever had before. And I think it’s 3 times since Christmas.
I’ve given her a cuddle, and told her it’ll be ok. Hopefully that will help

Cblue · 01/06/2018 14:41

Should also add that she doesn’t cry either - she’s very ‘together’ so it was extremely out of character

Cblue · 01/06/2018 14:38

@idsisatwat - really sorry to hear that.

My DD has a melt down a few weeks ago too and so did most of her friends. Went through the ‘exams went ok’ stage to the ‘how should I know how I did, I am not the examiner’ stage followed by melt down ‘I think I have failed everything stage’.
After a good cry and assurances that it doesn’t matter since she has done her best she got her mojo back. Now we are at the ‘I think I have done OK and some of the exams were really easy’ stage (and we are talking about the same exams that she had declared she had failed a week ago!).

The stress is dreadful for all the DC and sometimes a melt down, some reassurance and cuddle is all it takes. Unfortunately with my DD she has to come to me and won’t accept the support until she’s good and ready.

Feel so sorry for them all🙁

Now not looking forward to the waiting for the results stage!!!

TheThirdOfHerName · 01/06/2018 14:24

Speaking of hard-to-get tickets:

We managed to get tickets for Minecon the year it was in London. We only know one other family who managed to get tickets. DH & DS2 went. They each got a goody bag which included some collector's items and a code for a virtual cape to wear in-game. DH doesn't play Minecraft, so he sold his code (just the code, not the rest of the goody bag) on eBay. The bids went up to £100, which covered the cost of DH's ticket.

idsisatwat · 01/06/2018 14:24

Am wondering if anyone can help. DD is doing edexcel geography higher paper, and has just been in tears as feels she knows nothing.
When asked what she doesn’t know, the response was I don’t know. But the fact that she’s crying is what’s worrying. As that’s just not her.

She wants to do geography at a level, but now is worried that she’ll fail it. I think she’s predicted a 7 - and I only know that because I saw it on a form at a 6th form college interview. No one is predicted 9s at her school.

So if anyone has any advice I’ll be very grateful!

TheThirdOfHerName · 01/06/2018 14:18

Just saw Ggirl27 post.
I'm relieved to hear that some real people managed to get tickets, not just bots / touts.

TheThirdOfHerName · 01/06/2018 14:16

We didn't try for BTS tickets, but did anyone actually manage to buy any? A friend was online for over an hour, got through just after 10, no tickets left.

Nettleskeins · 01/06/2018 14:09

Ireland does much the same system as Scotland, except I think the points system is quite punishing for the Leaving Cert (their equivalent of A levels, as it across a range of subjects and has to have Maths in there somewhere And a language) You cannot opt out of the Irish language component unless you have a foreign passport (and UK passport counts as foreign) They sit Gsce equivalent in Year 10 and it is much less important for uni application. Their Year 11 is a transition year where you get some work experience as well as schooling and everyone does the work experience, so small businesses across the board are expecting recruits for that. Seems like a better approach to teenage development. Irish children can go to school when they are 4 or when they are 5, you can choose when you wish to start in Reception Year, and then follow through thenceforward in that year group.
I'm Irish but I live in UK btw!

mmzz · 01/06/2018 14:05

Previously, the universities in Scotland were geared towards teaching straight after Highers, which you sit one year after NAT 5s (GCSE Equivalent exams), so the honours courses lasted 4 years. I went to university one month after I turned 17, but would have still graduated at the same point as an English student because they do 2 years after GCSE and then 3 at university.
So 1+4, versus 2+3.
However, the Scottish system is more flexible, because if you don't get sufficient points in your Highers, or you just weren't ready to leave home, then you could stay on another year at school and either do more Highers or take something called Advanced Highers (which were called sixth year studies in my day).

TBH the 3 differences are: Reception (what is the point of that?!), more flexible starting points in Scotland and we don't have sixth form colleges. The last year or two are just another school year. We still wore uniform and we were still called "pupils" until we left school and went to university.

mmzz · 01/06/2018 13:54

Stickerrocks your friend's son would have done his Nat 5s when he was 15/16 which is the same as in England.

There are 4 years at secondary, and then you do the GCSE equivalent exams. Before that, there are 7 years at primary school. Scotland doesn't have that funny hybrid Reception year that England has.

In England the age range for starting school is 4y0m - 4y12m (minus a day).
In Scotland, its between 4y 6m and 5y 6m. If your child is going to be 4y 6m in August (when Scottish schools start), then parents can decide for themselves whether to defer them for a year because when they do start school, its more like year 1 than Reception.
So, really Scots do 7+4=11 years of proper school before sitting formal exams and the English do 6+5=11 years before GCSEs.

Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 13:27

Well done! Have asked DD what's on the revision schedule for the day as the entire morning was spent watching Ticketmaster & AXS queues which we joined before 9!

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LooseAtTheSeams · 01/06/2018 13:21

I think there's a lot of truth in that article.DS2 is currently in Y8 and will sleep in as late as possible!!
I also agree with the psychologist that we demonize young people for normal behaviour.
Sostenueto oh no, I'm sorry your dgd was disappointed. These ticketing sites are horrible.
Well, DS had three solid hours of science this morning, came back mildly shell-shocked and decided he didn't need to repeat the experience with English Language!

Ggirl27 · 01/06/2018 13:16

Almost feel bad - but managed to get 3 BTS tickets this morning. Took 30 minutes to be allowed to join the queue, and another 45 minutes in the actual queue! No choice of seat just best available but at least i have tickets!

Stickerrocks · 01/06/2018 12:36

The Scottish system seems strange to me. One of my colleagues sends her son to boarding school up there and he did his first exams last year in 8 subjects in the equivalent of year 10. Now he's doing 5(?) Highers in year 11 and should do Adv Highers next year before going onto do a 4 year degree.

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farangatang · 01/06/2018 12:28

ooops - forgot to mention you take your final exams in all your subjects towards the end of Year 12.

Honestly not sure if most states do something 'basic' for the end of Year 10 in core subjects.

farangatang · 01/06/2018 12:25

In Australia, different states have different Education boards but each state board (government run) sets the exam courses/syllabi and exams. Most courses still involve an element of coursework which is weighted according to whether it is done in Year 11 or Year 12 (final year of school is Y12). The marks are then added (assessment / exam and moderated) and a final score is given (or in some states, a rank). This number is used to determine university entrance after student applications/preferences have been centrally submitted.
Of course the government regularly fiddle with exam specifications etc... just for the sake of it ('don't just sit there, DO something"!)

There are no GCSEs. GCSEs are frankly more like the final Australian exams than A Levels, which are so specialist in nature and more limited in breadth of subjects.

brainmelt · 01/06/2018 12:16

ellen In my country we just sit the exams at 18. We don't have private boards, so everyone everywhere sits the same exam set and marked by the government. In my time there were two common exams, one dealing with literacy and another dealing with numeracy. On top of that, people sat whatever their elective subjects were. The total average grade is then averaged with your school end of year grades for the last 2 years (3 in my time). The result is a number (out of 10 and not out of 9, because that's how sensible we are in my country Grin ) and this number determines whether you get in your chosen Uni course.

Teenmum60 · 01/06/2018 12:13

Totally agree with the Guardian post ...there is such a massive difference in the maturity of an 18 yr old compared to 16 yr old...Kenneth Baker was saying this just a few weeks ago - also in The Guardian...we seem to be stuck in a timewarp

EllenJanethickerknickers · 01/06/2018 12:08

Interesting reading, brainmelt. DS3 is a fairly early riser but still a fairly 'young' 15. DS2 started sleeping in at about 17yo. I think my family are a bit late at reaching 'teenagerdom!' It would take a pretty fundamental change to our education system to move end of school exams to 18. How is it done elsewhere?