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Help m daughter has been banned from proms

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Catherineandoh · 17/05/2018 22:40

Please can anyone help me, I'm typing this message in tears, I feel like I've failed my daughter as a parent. My lovely hard working daughter which I adore so much has been banned from proms and it's so unfair, she was involved in an unprovoked attack, she was attacked by another girl who has behaviour issues, my daughter was held down when this girl was beating her up, she had bruises, when she finally broke free she was taken into the safety of an office but for some reason the attackers boyfriend got into the office and attacked my daughter pushing her and hitting her head onto a wall. When the fight was going on she couldn't breath or free herself to defend herself because her head was in headlock and another child was holding her down. When she finally broke free she acted on impulse to hit her attack but she ended up hitting a teacher by accident. The teacher even explained that my daughter hitting him was an accident. The school excluded her for 5 days and invited us to a meeting with the board of governors who have now decided that she can't attend the proms, we've even appealed but they still say no. My daughter is very stressed now, she won't eat and is complaining of severe headache, she's currently doing her GCSE and I'm sacred this can affect her performance. She's never had any problems in school and she's a good student, she worked in te school library, raised funds for charity, been a year and school council and even raised money for proms. What can I do now. This is no fair at all. Please can anyone advice me on what to do. Thanks

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Peanutbuttercups21 · 18/05/2018 06:58

And when you go to the police, don't talk about prom, as that is not their jurisdiction. Talk about the assault.

ASauvignonADay · 18/05/2018 06:57

We had a similar incident where a member of staff was injured whilst separating a fight and both were excluded for 5 days, but if your daughter was attacked and was defending herself, then that is different. What did the school say?

ASauvignonADay · 18/05/2018 06:56

Did you discuss in detail what happened with the school? Did they agree with your account or did they see it differently?

Slartybartfast · 18/05/2018 06:53

So she is not allowed to the prom and you now decide to go to the police about the incident.
if that makes you feel better op
the prom is over rated

why was she involved in the fight? definately not provoked?

appeal to all about the issue

8pinksnails · 18/05/2018 06:50

Having been around many secondary school fights between pupils, being accidentally hit is a known hazard and not something that is punished unless the student deliberately attacks a teacher.

Unless you daughter did something very serious I can't see why they would exclude her for 5 days and stop her attending the prom.

There is either more to the story than you are saying or the school is truly terrible and I wouldn't be leaving my kids there.

sashh · 18/05/2018 06:42

OK decide what your priority is. Is it that dd wants to go to prom?

If that is your goal approach the school, in writing, asking them what measures thay have taken to stop your dd being attacked in future.

State that they have a duty of care to your daughter and she was assaulted by more than one student and the school has failed in its duty of care.

Give them 48 hours to respond to your satisfaction. Tell them you do not want your dd unduly stressed at this time and that you realise any action such as arrests of the perpetrators is going to be disruptive to their education.

State that you have a reasonable opinion that the school and therefore the HT:

1)Owes a duty of care to your dd

2)The school / HT did not carry out that duty to the legal standard required ie student attacked dd, she was removed to another room where a second student attacked her that is two separate failings in duty of care.
3) Dd suffered damage as a result of the failure to observe the duty of care ie any injuries and loss of right to attend the prom.

State that although you have a strong case both for your dd to receive compensation and to report the teacher/HT to the teaching council you do not want to make their difficult job more difficult and that mistakes happen.

Accept that dd has wrong to assault the teacher but it was a mistake as she was defending herself and she has been punished by the exclusion.

Offer the school the opportunity to allow your dd to attend prom in the spirit of fairness and you will consider the matter closed.

It may or may not rattle them, if they say no you are no worse off and you can still go to the police.

Nagsnovalballs · 18/05/2018 06:39

Write to head teacher and governors saying that you are disappointed with their handling of the violence and that out of concern that their safeguarding procedures are inadequate, you are going to the police and to OFSTED.
DO NOT MENTION PROM.

I know your dd cares enormously about it, but from the adult/outside respective it seems trivial. It makes it seem that she is therefore not that upset about the fight but is instead upset about not going to a dance with her mates.

When they respond saying what do you want, say my dd at the prom and a formal apology letter to you. And then go to OFSTED anyway because this is very poor handling.

Mummyoflittledragon · 18/05/2018 06:23

I realise I said armlock in my last post. I meant headlock. People, who have strangled women/ cut off their oxygen supply in relationships is seen as high risk and it is potentially life threatening to stay. I agree with others for you to make a complaint about lack of safeguarding to ofsted. I hadn’t thought of that last night. I hope you will start to feel better when you’ve started a legal process against the perpetrators and the school.

Lots of support and nice things for your dd. She will get through this. Do you / she have anything nice to look forward to? Can you do something special on the day your dd is supposed to be at prom? Or if she doesn’t want to, be surrounded by her family, who love her.

OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 18/05/2018 05:47

I don't say this lightly, but put a formal complaint in to ofsted re safeguarding,(about the attacks) which, if this is true, the school has failed to do. This will trigger a safeguarding inspection.

flumpybear · 18/05/2018 05:47

I'd definitely speak to the school and bring up safeguarding. As be inclined to call the police and make a call to IFSTED too about victim blaming due to their lack of being able
To keep your child safe - I wonder if it's scapegoating so they don't have the finger pointed st them for not keeping her sufficiently safe from the second attack

I'd be going ballistic, in a calm
Yet 'I'm taking no shit' way - they're wrong if things happened the way you described - it needs to be re-visited

Mountainsoutofmolehills · 18/05/2018 04:16

Speak to the school. Get savvy. Your daughter being attacked could have been reported to the police, and it's def. not too late. This is extremely serious, and she must be given proper support and care. How terrible for you all as a family! i suggest that you have all conversations recorded on your mobile phone during meetings with govenors - declare that you think it's best for the interest of minutes and so you can take everything in. These things you have to micromanage I guess - have they offered counseling for your daughter? Is she staying on for 6th form? Will she be safe and happy. Maybe some exciting goals and things to look forward to would soften the blows of late, and the knowledge that she is supported and held by her family. Sounds like you are doing all the right things, it takes a while to figure out that no one else is outraged and assisting you. I am always realising that unless I micro manage processes things fall apart. Have you taken photos of your daughters injuries?

Catherineandoh · 18/05/2018 04:07

Thank you all you mum's, for your lovely comments and advice. If all goes well and according to plan, I'll try to update you.

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Catherineandoh · 18/05/2018 04:05

@OlennasWimple we've had he appeal turned and they wrote to us saying the case is closed. In about 3 weeks they've decided and closed the case, 5 years of my daughter's life, the one thing she's been waiting for was decided in 5 days. No compassion whatsoever.

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Catherineandoh · 18/05/2018 04:00

@Mummyoflittledragon I don't understand why at all. I can't even sleep. It's not even about the proms, it's about the injustice, the boyfriend didn't headlock my dd, he came later into the office where my dd went into for safety, attacked snd push her, she fell back with her head hitting on the wall.

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OlennasWimple · 18/05/2018 03:02

what is the formal appeal process in your school and how far have you got? For example, have you had an appeal to the head turned down, but you could still appeal to the governors?

Mummyoflittledragon · 18/05/2018 02:06

The school failed to safeguard your dd and are now victim blaming. I absolutely agree with invlolving the police. Can you escalate this to the LEA as a dereliction of duty? And how the hell does the boyfriend get to stay on at school when he held your dd in an armlock?

Catherineandoh · 18/05/2018 01:51

@SlowlyLosingMyMind thank you. I'll definitely do that, I'll get the police involved too.

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Catherineandoh · 18/05/2018 01:49

I'm taking her to he police on Saturday, @Eastcoastmost she's so broken and shocked by the decision of the governors because it wasn't her fault. She's asked me lots of questions I cannot answer and I feel ashamed because I reassured her before we made the first appeal. After 5 years being in the same school it's has taken them 5 days to take away m daughter prom all because someone attacked her. I just cannot understand it, feels like I'm dreaming, he attacker has behaviour problems and she came there only at year 9, and now she's been sent to another school again! Oh Lord please! I cannot sleep because indeed so stressed

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SlowlyLosingMyMind · 18/05/2018 01:43

Appeal in writing. Ask the teacher who was hit to write a statement about it being an accident and about her as pupil.
Also note in the letter the school allowed a second unprovoked attack on your daughter. Had they safely contained you daughter after the first attack, then the second incident and the accident would have never happened.

Catherineandoh · 18/05/2018 01:41

@Beeziekn33ze the teacher wasn't there but his statement was heard by the governors and my daughter apologised so many time verbally and via email which he's accepted.

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Eastcoastmost · 18/05/2018 01:37

Pull your finger out and go to the police.
And get a solicitor. If this is all true, the school well and truly failed your DD in terms of safeguarding and have made an already bad situation worse by punishing her for defending herself.

Beeziekn33ze · 18/05/2018 01:31

Was the hit teacher there to explain to the governors? It reads as if the governors simply didn't understand what happened. Your poor daughter suffered unprovoked attacks from more than one child. She must have been beside herself when she struck out and accidentally hit the teacher.
So unfair.

Catherineandoh · 18/05/2018 01:30

@YoYotheclown we're going to appeal again but need help, anyone who can help point us in the right direction, maybe we're doing it all wrong😢

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Catherineandoh · 18/05/2018 01:26

@ijustwannadance main attacker is in a new school and her boyfriend he second attacker is in te same school but studying nicely with the six formers in the annex part of the school

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Catherineandoh · 18/05/2018 01:24

@Whyarealltheusernamestaken I just cannot understand why. The attacker is now excluded and is in another school in the same bourogh which means she get to go to the proms at her new school. It breaking my heart. My daughter didn't start any violence. She was attacked by another student in school, it wasn't even break time. Why such punishment. I just can't get round it.

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