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Boarding for sixth form?

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youareloved · 11/02/2018 02:38

My DD has expressed an interest to go to boarding school for sixth form, Im totally new to boarding in general so advice would be appreciated! DD went to a state primary, then private secondary for 2 years, we then moved and we have started home educating her for GCSE years. She loved the structure of school and being around people, so i think she might enjoy boarding, but it's also a big change from what she's doing right now, might be a helpful stepping stone to university though?

DD has researched schools, and liked Pangbourne College, Ackworth, Gordonstoun, Lathallan, Downside, and Kings Canterbury.

DD isn't extremely sporty as her school didn't offer anything other than basic PE once a week, but is up to try anything. Likes drama and music more than sport definitely! DD is predicated As so far at GCSE (she does an online HE program), but I'm not sure how accurate that is because it's not based on exam-situation tests?

Does anyone have experience with any of these school? Or can recommend others? Or any experience with boarding for sixth form in general, is it hard to break into friendship groups? also does anyone know whether schools would be opposed to accepting a homeschooled child?? or maybe it's too much of a change for DD (I know that's a very personal call though!) and I might be better going for a day school.

Thank you so much!! This is all very new to me, and any advice is really helpful! :)

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youareloved · 12/02/2018 23:25

Thank you for the advice motherstongue, it's really appreciated! I've basically discounted pangbourne now because of the distance.

DD dislikes Loretto because of boys she knows there, haven't looked at Glenalmond though so will do! Heard it was impersonal, but as shown by this thread rumours aren't always true! DD seems to like the less academic schools, but I think that's just for fear of failing.

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youareloved · 12/02/2018 23:11

I hadn't considered all girls, but maybe less distractions for DD so could be a good thing!

Yes I'll check about that at Lathallan, now you say it it feels like it would have majority flexi/weekly! DD could possibly weekly board there, but would be more practical for her to full board. Really depends on how it feels when we get there.

I'll look at strathallan again, it probably would have a larger sixth form intake because of it being the English system.

Thanks for the tip on multiple visits, I didn't think of that! Would schools be willing to facilitate that do you think?

I'm concerned that DD will just hate it and have to come back, so multiple visits would give her (and us) a better idea of whether it's something she could actually do.

DHs mum worked at the mount! It sounds really good, again didn't consider because of the all girls but now seems like a great plan so I'll look again!

Also ruled out fettes because DD doesn't do a MFL and they require that!

Also I know it's trivial but DD is anxious about what to wear to taster days, they say current uniform but she's obviously H.ed so doesn't have one, would she just wear her old uniform? Or smart clothes?

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motherstongue · 12/02/2018 22:55

With the greatest respect, I would NOT consider a boarding school down south in your position. As a Scottish based parent of a DS who attended boarding school in London and live within easy proximity of Edinburgh airport it was still a trek every Exeat and holiday for our DS. Factor in travel time from school to the airport/train station then the journey up north then the pick up from airport/train station then the travel home, the Exeat just seems a chore in the end. At the beginning and end of term (unless the school will consider your Dd as a foreign pupil and therefore allow her to store her belongings at school) you will need to make the onerous journey by car to and from the school. If you want to attend an event, factor in 2 days! If it is an evening event you need to leave around mid day to get there, the events finish too late to catch the sleeper back and you won't get a flight after 10 at night so you need to book into a hotel. Realistically you would need to fly from either Inverness or Aberdeen from where you are based so the flights will be infrequent and very expensive, I suspect. Your interest in Pangbourne, imho, and any in the Midlands (where you would really need to go by train) seem misplaced on logistics alone and I mean that most kindly.
On Scottish Boarding schools here are my thoughts; Gordonstoun, goes it own way and attracts, I think a certain type (Still does have a bit of a reputation for being outdoorsy) lots of boarders. Strathallan, yes it is quite sporty, not hugely academic not a lot of full time boarders, lots of flexi boarding. St.Leonards, too out of the way for easy travel. They do the IB so depends what you think of that. Kilgraston, very small numbers in a year so not best for breaking into friendship groups perhaps. Glenalmond, only proper high school (all others are all-through schools) high proportion of boarders, fairly rural (my favourite Scottish boarding school though and DD attends here). Loretto, nice school, again quite small numbers in each year, friends son went here and they spoke very highly of it. Loretto is also quite sporty. Fettes, lots of day pupils but good school. Lots of my daughters friend have gone there. Dollar, follows the Scottish curriculum. Hardly any boarders so wouldn't recommend in your DDs situation. All the other day schools in Edinburgh have a tiny amount of boarders so not worth considering. I know next to nothing about the Glasgow schools so can't help there.

ShootingQuadrantids · 12/02/2018 20:56

The Mount School York is excellent for drama and pastoral care. Also it's an all girls school.

eatinglesschocolate · 12/02/2018 20:50

What about Kilgraston? It might suit as a first time boarder.
Lathallan might have quite a lot of weekly\flexi boarders.
Tend to think that Gordonstoun very outdoorsy rather than sporty.
What about Fettes?
Also, Strathallan is as sporty as you want it to be. If you'd rather sing, paint or just focus on academic work - that's fine too. Different at start of senior schools when everyone is trying to find their 'tribe' but by 6th form they've generally relaxed into who they are.
I'd check how big an intake the schools have at 6th form and also how many are overseas students. How many are flexi\weekly boarders? What the typical weekend activities are and how evenings are structured.
Second all the comments about cliques. Not unknown for the odd new 6th Form intake to not last long and return to old schools or be miserable!
Try and get a few taster sessions at shortlisted ones. At least three or four overnight stays but spread out. That way she'll not be so much of a novelty and neither will the school! I
Good luck!

sendsummer · 12/02/2018 18:25

Since you are considering RC plus English schools you might like to have a look at Ampleforth, very much full boarding.

BubblesBuddy · 12/02/2018 18:25

The school where my DD2 moved to for 6th form did give more exeats for 6th form and it was full boarding. It’s just something you may need to factor in regarding transport. Sometimes mine went off home with another girl but you cannot guarantee this of course.

The web site I gave you earlier gave boarding numbers.

youareloved · 12/02/2018 14:54

Lathallan doesn't have many boarders, it's just the second nearest us after gordonstoun! DH and I are going to look at schools DD likes and ones we like this week and pick some to visit.

I didnt think that sixth form would get more exeats, thanks for the tip! We'll definitely visit gordonstoun and Lathallan, just because they're the closest. Pangbourne is probably out due to distance, and I'll try to find maybe some in Cumbria or in Scotland. Lomond sounds good, but again not many boarders. Strathallan also good, and more boarders which is promising! I think most city schools in Edinburgh don't have many boarders which isn't good, and Loretto is out in DDs mind because she doesn't like the people she knows there.

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BubblesBuddy · 12/02/2018 14:37

I thought Lathallen had hardly any boarders so would question what the boarding ethos is like. I think you need to get more of a grip on this and your DD is a bit young to be making the running here. Getting to Pangbourne would take forever.

Most schools lighten up for 6th form and are less regimented. The children are now young adults and are trusted within the school community. They should get more exeats and you need to factor that in. Don’t just look at web sites. Go and visit.

ABitOTT · 12/02/2018 01:28

My DD's friend from their girls school boarded at Gordonston for sixth form. She wasn't overly academic but above average. No previous experience of boarding other than being friends with some of the girls who boarded. She was very happy at this school.

My info is a few years out of date. DD's friend left 6 years ago. You need to look at a few schools. Be practical & don't pick anything too far away. Rely on gut instinct but ultimately your DD needs to pick the best school for her type of personality. Also a bigger full time boarding community will mean there'll be more students staying at school during weekends. This is better for you if your daughter wants to full board. However if weekly boarding is her thing, I shouldn't worry if there are no official weekly boarding places. My DS weekly boarded most weeks while staying for the odd weekend when he liked the look of the activity. His school at the time only offered day or full boarding places, but easily accommodated our needs.

Good luck with your search.

user1469682920 · 11/02/2018 22:27

Agree all children are different and thrive in different suroundings. Also children do best and are happiest when they have a real sense of belonging which can be created in different ways.

windchimesabotage · 11/02/2018 22:21

I went to Oundle and a surprising amount of people came to the sixth form who had not previously been to the school. It was a totally different atmosphere with all the fresh faces so I dont think all schools are cliquey at sixth form. There was also quite a lot of freedom to come and go into the city.

My close friend went to the Mount in York and had good experiences altho that is an all girls school. Also had a friend at Bootham in York who said it was quite a liberal place. They apparently had a lot of freedom to come and go into the city (was located bang in city centre) and good facilities. She had her own room and just had to share a small study space with another girl between their rooms.

I think in your situation boarding sounds ideal. Your dd wants to do it and as you live somewhere quite remote it opens up a lot of opportunities for her.

youareloved · 11/02/2018 22:20

ahh, explains why DD likes it! She loves uniform and rituals, mostly just feeling part of a community I think! not too keen on the military aspect, but as long as they don't push joining I wouldn't see a problem with it. That's why I discounted Loretto in Edinburgh, I've heard from friends that they intensely push joining the army.

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happygardening · 11/02/2018 22:13

user1469682920 comments re Pangbourne clearly demonstrate why you need to decide if an individual school would suit you and your DC rather than relying too much on other people’s comments. As a died in the wool pacifist and someone who dislikes intensely uniform and meaningless rituals Pangbourne definitely wouldn’t have worked for us. I watched it’s videos etc and to my mind it had a very strong military ethos. Grin

happygardening · 11/02/2018 22:02

Nothing wrong with RC per se I just personally have —what some may describe as an irrational loathing— am a not keen on anything RC.

itssquidstella · 11/02/2018 20:42

SEdbergh is in Cumbria as another potential option.

youareloved · 11/02/2018 20:06

Slightly off topic, but how many sixth forms is it usual to apply for? Is it normally just first choice and a back up, or do people apply for more?

Also are the offers usually given out at the same time, or do you have to reject schools based on the hope that another gives you an offer?

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gillybeanz · 11/02/2018 19:55

OP

I know most of the 6th formers at dd school, I'd be happy to answer any general questions or those related to social/H.ed. you can pm, if I can help at all.
Obviously, I can't help with specifics as dd school will be different.

youareloved · 11/02/2018 19:50

I didn't think about flying, thanks! Ill check up on how long flights take, that could make the school further away slightly more practical!

That's reassuring gilly, hopefully my DD will be the same! DD gets bored easily, so I think all the activities will be a nice change for her.

One of the questions I'm definitely asking is about the intake of new girls into the sixth form. That's my worry about the schools that run the Scottish curriculum, I don't think they'd have huge amounts of new pupils coming in because 5th and 6th year aren't such a big deal here.

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gillybeanz · 11/02/2018 19:41

My dd boarded from 11 and went from H.ed, she's not 6th form though.

I would advise to look at which school has the largest intake at 6th form that haven't gone all the way through the school, unless they are just 6th forms, obviously.
I know somebody who felt a bit alienated as most of others had been friends for years.
Most 6th forms will have a building weekend though if this is the case.
The H.ed thing in itself wasn't a problem for my dd, just slotted into classroom.

Dancingdreamer · 11/02/2018 19:37

If you are in an isolated area, is it possible to fly to a school to save the driving? My DD started boarding at 6th form and even though we share lifts with a friend, it is still a lot of driving.

And Marlborough is very selective for 6th form. My DD had straight A*s at GCSE and thinks most new joiners had similar grades. Marlborough does have a largish intake of girls who generally join boys houses that take girls in the 6th form. This gives the best of both worlds. All the girls are new but they quickly become integrated into the wider school because of the friendships with the boys.

user1469682920 · 11/02/2018 19:33

There s a video on the pangbourne website and on you tube 'life at pangbourne' which I think is quite accurate, although a few years old.

user1469682920 · 11/02/2018 19:29

I agree with you though Happy Gardening about schools having to show they have raised standards - a couple of local schools have effectively done that but are now having to select which is hard for those that either don't want, or cant get into, a school with more focus on attainment, academic or otherwise.

youareloved · 11/02/2018 19:29

Ah thank you for the information on IB and pangbourne! I'll definitely be looking into St. Leonard's it looks like a great option for DD!

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youareloved · 11/02/2018 19:27

DD seems to like the military ethos, and my brother in law went to pangbourne so I think she's been told a few tales about it! I'll have to see the school to get a feel for the environment, I'm not sure quite how deep the military ethos goes.

What's bad about RC boarding schools? I was considering Downside as I wanted a school with Christian values, but I couldn't find any really Christian schools so I though catholic might be similar?

I'll be sure to quiz the school about the number of full boarders!! that's really important.

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