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Worried about my son starting highschool

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Miracle29 · 22/01/2018 09:15

Hi everyone I'm new here. My son turned 10 in August and he's the youngest in his class he'll be starting highschool in September and will only just be 11. I'm a little worried as he's such a shy quiet boy always has been. He's ok if people approach him but not good at making friends himself. He tends to put his head down around kids he doesn't know. He's so nervous about highschool. The teachers love him in primary school always complementing his manners which is lovely to hear. Another problem the teachers have is if he doesn't understand something he won't ask for help he'd rather struggle then get upset or embarrassed if questioned. He has also been bullied in the past it was awful to see him so upset and scared to tell the teachers. His primary school is only small with 200 pupils and the highschool is over 900. He's not very sporty and does get shouted at by kids in pe sessions for not passing ball or missing the goals ECT and he takes it all to heart. We have visited the highschool and it took him 1 hour to start to explore on his own or join in with the tasks there I understand help be nervous it's a big step maybe I'm more nervous than him I don't know. I'm just not sure how to approach the highschool talk or prepare him. It terrifies me. Anyone with any advice will be much appreciated thankyou.

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Miracle29 · 23/01/2018 13:22

That's a brilliant idea thankyou I'll take a look at the website. My goodness tg3 school uniform is more expensive in highschool too. I think when he starts the older years start an hour later so the y7 can get used to surroundings which I think is a good idea too.
The reports are good so the teachers have an idea what the children are like. I have heard they try to put some in the same class from the Same highschool for the first year so hopefully there's a familiar face

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TeenTimesTwo · 23/01/2018 12:54

If you go to the school website you may find a calendar of dates on there somewhere which might help you get your head round things.
If you are really lucky you may find a letters page with letters for the current y7s too.

At DD's school the first day in September is Y7s plus y10 'peer supporters' only. So they can be at the school on day 1 without all the scary big kids. Peer supporters are assigned to each tutor group and for the first couple of weeks they escort the kids between classes while they get to know their way around.

Again, at our school, the y6 primary teachers are asked to complete a short report on each child and this is one of the inputs used when deciding who is in which tutor group.

Top tip - take a copy of their timetable and have it on display at home.

Miracle29 · 23/01/2018 12:14

Teen times two it does seem like a good idea as money can easily be lost and at least you won't get the ive got more money than you comment from other children so I do like this idea.
Lastname thankyou and bless your dss hope he goes on ok. I'm just so glad I'm not the only one I was starting to think I was just been silly and overprotective. My ds isn't keen on going out to play he has in the past but not for long he'll come in and be happy on his Xbox or watching you tube or a movie and that's fine with me. He does struggle learning and taking things in but the teachers just say it's how he is and he's the youngest so bear that in mind so I just hope he gets the help he needs at highschool I wonder of the teachers at highschool get some kind of report on each child going to the school. I'm hoping when he has the transition that he comes home armed with leaflets and information on what happens day to day and a chart of where he has to go I spoke to him this morning and he says he feels ok about it for now.

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lastnamefirstfirstnamelast · 23/01/2018 11:40

Oh my lord this is so strange, i was speaking to a woman at a kids indoor centre on Sunday about this and her son was born in August too! She is the exact same as you about it all we had a little chat and we weere talking about my DSS is starting high school in Sept and he has some minor learning difficulties and is on the autistic spectrum and we have also been worried. i think it is natural for parents as a whole. My DD believe it or not - i'm not so worried about as she is always making new friends as she does dance comps etc and is constantly on show, making new mates...DSS on the other hand - is so shy, just wants to play on DS etc, not at all out going..how ever he has moved schools in the past 18months as his mum relocated to another town he had no problem making friends at his new primary as he found he had things in common such as DS, xbox etc. we are hoping this is the same with high school. How about you ask there high school about how the first day there would go, how they introduce each other etc. Honestly he will be fine, all the kids there will be in a simliar boat xxx

TeenTimesTwo · 23/01/2018 11:25

Miracle

A number (most) schools have a cashless system:

Either a card that you can top up on line or with cheque/cash at school
or
A cardless fingerprint system that is topped up the same way.

(The fingerprint system is better as you can't lose your finger or lend it to anyone else. The fingerprints themselves aren't stored, they are converted to a code.)
There is usually a limit on how much can be spent per day, and a way for you to see online what has actually been bought.

I've seen a number of y6 groups over the years. They grow up massively during y6 and especially during/after SATs. And then massively again in the holidays and up to the first half term.

Miracle29 · 23/01/2018 11:07

Jaime my ds is tall but when we went highschool for opening evening the y11 were really tall with little beards!! I couldn't believe it they looked like college students. My ds is also into you tube videos drives me mad at times but he loves them.
Holyshet your post about your ds made m3 giggle bless him. I know the day I leave him to go highschool I'll be in floods of tears waiting for him to come home and hopefully say it's great and he made friends that's all I am hoping for is he gets some good friends and has the confidence to say if anything is bothering him. We have had the matter of how much money to take ad he currently has a packed lunch. The highschool as a card of some sort where you top up and use when you want a lunch there but not actually sure how that works yet so hopefully we will get some information on things like that

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HolyShet · 23/01/2018 10:45

Aw OP, tell him my mansized, hairy Y8 still loves and plays with his lego.

I think it is nerve-wracking - both thinking about it in advance, and the first couple of weeks - especially if they have been at a primary school that is quite cosseting.

But the thing about Secondary School is he will find his people. You're not stuck - usually - with the same people all day every day. You can leave the old assumptions of who you are behind. There's more diversity in the lessons and the cohort. There is lots to look forward to.

jaimelannistersgoldenhand · 23/01/2018 10:35

My y7 went from a one class per year primary to a secondary with 1500+.

He was very nervous and didn't believe it when his older siblings and I tried to reassure him on the social aspect. He's not particularly sporty but enjoys computer games and YouTube so lots of common ground to be had with other boys. He has made some good friends quickly much to everyone's relief.

He was very nervous about learning his way round too but they are given maps and there's lots of help if you can't find "Lab 2" or whatever.

I think the biggest shock is how much bigger the older teens are. Ds is about 5 foot tall so walking corridors with lots of 6 foot + kids is a shocker when you're used to seeing most people shorter than you. I know from experience that it won't be long until he's in the 6 foot club lol.

Miracle29 · 23/01/2018 10:18

Forgiveness your ds sounds lovely and well done to him for getting so far. Perfectly it is certainly a change for us. At every parent evening I always get he's a lovely boy but so shy and can do with coming out of his shell but none of the teachers except th3 one he has now has ever helped or put him forward for plays to help him. He's been home and said he's struggled with certain things and when he does find the courage to ask they ignored him. They've left it until y6 to help him and bow have have to work harder and give him extra work ready for the sats he was meant to hav3 extra help but I don't think they've helped as much as they should they always focus on the children messing around.
Stilllivinginazoo my ds normally avoids busy places at school dinner if he sees someone messing about he'll go out of the way or sit the opposite side of the yard and when he tells me he's been alone my heart breaks but he says he's happy doing so when needed so there's nothing I can really do about that I do think at tim3s he likes his own space but my worry there is if it makes him a target for bullies if he does decide to be alone at any point

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Stilllivinginazoo · 23/01/2018 10:05

I just wanted to add a bit of reassurance
My Ds started secondary this sept(year 7)
He's a home body,shy,a worrier and a thinker.hates sport.he moved up friendless as his best mate moved away in year 5 and he coasted year 6 a loner
First month he was very quiet and a bit reserved.ovee the summer he started going out older sister and then practising getting to n from school by himself before sept started
He did find that first month hard,then some random kid in his class he had to sit next to in ethics ask him join his friends at lunch and BOOM.everything slotted together.he found his groove and he's doing ok now
It's a horrible wrench watching them flounder in a new environment but he will find his feet and I've discovered the non sporty kids tend quickly locate "others of their kind".my D's loves books and minecraft/lego.hs still does all these things at home
We used lots positive language
"Chance make new friends
Try new things
Etc and still do.sure he's discovered rugby truly is hell in earth but ethics and philosophy is his favourite class he avoids the mad lunch hall,but has a quiet spot he sits with his new friends.he still hasn't wanted contact with them outside of school but we aren't overly worried.he will be ok.our school has a six week review with tutor to address concerns.if your school doesn't operate this policy it's worth asking if you feel he's still really out of his depth at that point.and agree pp about finding who are the pastoral care providers

HangingRock · 23/01/2018 10:02

no major dramas that I have been aware of from his side
I've been pleased with that with year 9 dd and her friends too. I never hear of any fallings out or nastiness.

Perfectly1mperfect · 23/01/2018 09:53

It's a massive change for them (and us !) when they go to secondary school. Most do cope very well though. He will not be the only child that is nervous and sensitive, although some are better at hiding it than others.

One thing I would say about it is, when I went to secondary is was a tough environment, teachers were not particularly friendly and there wasn't much support if you had any problems. However at my child's secondary school things are very different and it seems to be the case at other schools as well. It's very much geared up to support individual children, huge amount of pastoral care etc. The teachers are much more open with the kids. It just seems much more about keeping the kids happy, sometimes a little too much and I do sometimes think some of the kids use it to their advantage. I think the kids that need the pastoral care, sometimes don't ask for it though as they are often the shy, nervous ones so just make sure that when your son does start at the school that he is aware of where/who to go to if he needs help or just to talk to someone.

Also, most kids change massively in their first year or two at secondary. That's hard to deal with as a parent but is often necessary for the child to get through.

ForgivenessIsDivine · 23/01/2018 09:40

DS is in year 9. At primary he was quiet, nervous, often burst into tears if he couldn't find things, was good at maths and english but quiet. There were only 14 boys in his class including a few strong groups of friends and a few outliers, the outliers stuck out. He went to a big high school and hardly has anything at all to do with the children from his primary school.

His first term was traumatic, getting on the bus, losing his timetable, finding his way round, losing his jacket and PE kit (numerous times), bursting into tears in one class because he forgot his homework. With every new thing, he had a new hurdle to face. His tutor was an angel, kept an eye out for him, had a word with all of his teachers to let them know he was a nervous child and on one occasion emailed me to let me know he was OK when he went to school having no idea what class he was supposed to be in.

He made a few connections in his first few days which he clung to for a while but these were almost all replaced by real friends by January. Sadly at the end of year 7, two out of three of his best friends moved away, I was devastated but he has been fine. He has made new friends, they are a bit like him, a mixture of intellectual levels, he has some friends who play football together, some who he plays with on the XBOX on line, some who play board games when they get together.. some kids have come in and out of his circle but no major dramas that I have been aware of from his side... though I do know some of the other children (girls mostly) have had some challenges..

He has found his tribe, teachers like him and praise him for who he is, which never happened in primary school, he has a range of personalities he seems to show in different classes, from one of the boys who chats and mucks about a bit to completely and utterly engaged. I think all of this is OK, he is trying out his wings and I think his exploration of his social side is an important part of his development which was somewhat restricted in his small primary as there were fewer people to spar with, as it were.

He is happier and quietly confident in himself though still nervous in new situations but altogether, high school has been a good change for him.

Miracle29 · 23/01/2018 08:05

Thankyou so now what and good luck with your ds starting school too hope it goes smoothly and he enjoys it.
Elliejjtiny well done to your ds for starting some clubs I really hope my ds started some clubs as it'll be good for his confidence and hell meet more people.
Londonista my ds is tall too and also gets left out alot which breaks my heart when he comes hone and says I didn't get a partner for pe ECT but I've been trying to teach him to take it on the chin and to not let it bother him and it doesn't mean they don't like him.
Lemonyssnicket great name by the way love it. Yes your right. I just hope he enjoys it more than he is at the moment and it's a new confident him. He's so different at home and if he was like that at school I think he'd be ok.

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LemonysSnicket · 22/01/2018 23:00

It won’t help but, bullying is indiscriminate. I was an extrovert, most confident, loud but smart kid in my class. Was fine until age 13...then it began.

So it’s not just the quiet studious ones ... there’s no guarantee. Your son could very well thrive!

londonista · 22/01/2018 22:45

Really feel for you OP. My son is summer born and also very young with it. Not interested in sport at all. Going from a very nurturing small primary environment to a 10 form intake in year 7. He's in year 5 currently and I'm already dreading it. He is left out of so many things but thankfully he's extremely tall so I'm very much hoping the bullies will think twice.

It's hard to know how much to interfere isn't it. Learning how to build a social network, be resilient and handle bullying, they're all going is life skills aren't they.

elliejjtiny · 22/01/2018 22:37

My ds is in year 7 and I worried about this last year. He is doing very well though. He joined a club every day because he was worried about being on his own and that has really helped. He loves Lego and the school are starting a Lego club this term.

sooooooonowwhat · 22/01/2018 22:28

My ds is also starting secondary this year so we may well have the same issues to face! One thing that helped ds at primary was really spending time on and developing his extra-curricular interests, I think it really helped build his confidence and I hope that can go someway to making him less of a target for bullies. He is much more confident now than when he started primary, in fact, dh and I were taking about how his whole first year in nursery was spent walking around the playground playing pretend games by himself and how sorry we used to feel for him when we say him all alone. Good luck with your ds Miracle and at least he knows he has a lovely mum at home to support him, I know that helped me get through the tough years.

Miracle29 · 22/01/2018 22:09

Really that sounds really good. It is sad but thankfully it hasn't stopped him he had 3 shelves full of figures he collect. I've always told him if he enjoys it then do it. I know teenagers still building lego

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Shesaysso · 22/01/2018 21:29

Aw how sad he thinks he won't be able to play with Lego. There's a lunchtime Lego club at our high school and it's really popular. I'm sure he'll find like-minded people.

Miracle29 · 22/01/2018 20:53

Aww thankyou so much. It is so tough. When I went to the opening evening I just couldn't believe how big it was and daunting and all the kids just seemed so rough but the school itself seemed ok. I think I felt worse because when we came out of the school he seemed terrified and I felt like crying for him seeing him so nervous.

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sooooooonowwhat · 22/01/2018 20:23

Miracle I was a lot like your ds and so is my ds! I am another one who had a hard time at primary, I was the youngest in the year and a mummy's girl! Didn't know how to deal with the rougher kids at all and just became quite introverted. At high school things were much better, everyone was looking to make friends and I found a load of non-sporty, clever, geeky girls who I got on with brilliantly. Your ds will be fine but if he does have trouble settling then I wouldn't hesitate to raise it with his form tutor, they will have experience of this kind of thing and can help put your ds with similar dcs'. The clubs idea is good too! Your ds sounds really lovely btw

Miracle29 · 22/01/2018 16:45

Thankyou I agree u see so many kids I've seen from been small going up to highschool and seem so grown up

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BhajiAllTheWay · 22/01/2018 16:11

It's tough isn't it. I have to say though something seems to happen when kids start senior school, it's as though they grow up incredibly fast within the space of a few weeks. I bet you'll be amazed at the change and independence he shows. Try not to worry.

Miracle29 · 22/01/2018 12:22

Yes I agree I've told him on his transition days to look around and see if he can say hello to anyone ECT so he'll have a familiar face when he starts properly. I've started looking at bags and coats as theyre quite strict with uniform there so no name brands ECT they have to have plain coats and bags. They have to take coats of on entry to the school which I suppose makes it all easier they we havnt got to go out spending money on top brand things. H3 does have a prom in July so focusing on that too. Feeling so much better now thankyou

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