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And the new Education Secretary is....Damian Hinds

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noblegiraffe · 08/01/2018 20:22

Anyone got any opinions on him?

I was thinking that I didn't hate Justine Greening but then I remembered the whole grammar school thing. I wonder if we'll ever see the response to that consultation.

She was offered Work and Pensions but has decided to quit government completely instead. Apparently she really wanted to stay in Education. God knows why TM thought it was a good idea to move her, hope she does a Nicky Morgan and starts sniping at her trousers from the back benches.

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noblegiraffe · 09/01/2018 23:07

Labour's education policies are crap too though. I'm hoping for an extraordinary Lib Dem surge. They wanted to take education policy out of the hands of politicians and give it to people who know what they're doing.

FFS we've had 4 education secretaries in 7 years and that's supposed to be fine? Yet West London Free School has the same number of heads in about the same timescale and people think that's a dreadful shambles.

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leccybill · 09/01/2018 22:29

Good grief, I am literally etching the days on my metaphorical cell wall until the next election.

Piggywaspushed · 09/01/2018 22:16

Haha! Probably!

noblegiraffe · 09/01/2018 21:39

let me down/ gone soft/ become apathetic

Hah Piggy never! Grin
I probably should have posted it in Education but it always seems to be a bit of a backwater over there. All the cool kids seem to hang out in secondary!

I see Nick Gibb is still Schools Minister. He is truly bombproof. I'm sure next time Labour win, they'll just let him carry on.

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notjustbaconbutties · 09/01/2018 20:55

Accord Coalition on Damian Hinds: accordcoalition.org.uk/2018/01/09/new-education-secretary-urged-to-press-ahead-with-inclusive-reforms/

Piggywaspushed · 09/01/2018 17:50

presumably he had to be thought up very quickly. It's all very odd.

Other than having been to school, he has no credentials.

TalkinPeace · 09/01/2018 17:48

Also, I’m slightly pissed off that they replaced a comp-educated gay woman with a grammar educated white male who did PPE at Oxbridge.
tee hee.

More to the point they have created a very articulate, rather pissed off Back Bencher Grin

Piggywaspushed · 09/01/2018 17:43

I'm so glad you had started a thread on this noble. I couldn't find one yesterday and I thought you had let me down/ gone soft/ become apathetic...

No fear!

noblegiraffe · 09/01/2018 17:29

mountford I think she was reasonable, rather than actively evil like some Tory MPS. She wasn't fan of grammars, she wanted more funding for schools, but she pushed grammars publicly and didn't achieve much about funding (although I know she tried) so she's not a particular hero.

Regarding the being a comp-educated gay woman thing, Theresa May said that this new cabinet was going to increase diversity, then sacks someone who fits several severe shortage criteria and replaces her with a cardboard cutout of a standard Tory. Could be anyone.

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 09/01/2018 17:18

I don’t think TM has ever let common sense get in the way of anything.

It looks like she might be lining up the ducks to give it another go even if everyone else can see it’s a complete non-starter.

HPFA · 09/01/2018 15:20

Do you think we’re going to see another attempt to push grammars through? FFS.

The parliamentary arithmetic is still the same though. It was the election result that stopped the legislation for new grammars not Justine Greening.
More likely they will have a go at stretching the existing legislation. I wonder if any grammar school will want the stress and hassle of setting up an "annexe" in this unstable political situation as any incoming Labour government would put a stop to it immediately. The attempt at an annexe in Maidenhead had fallen through even before the election and the planned one in Croydon was apparently never in the offing

schoolsweek.co.uk/confusion-over-grammar-school-expansion-plans/

So common sense would say No, however Theresa has a monomaniac's obsession on this issue so who knows?

mountford100 · 09/01/2018 14:26

Noble did you actually like Justine Greening her being a Tory or was she not as bad straight white Oxford educated Tory !

By the way my nephew was educated at St Ambrose and they did a great job turning out another potential 'Tory' Mp like Paul Maynard as well.

Only joking . However, we need more St Ambrose's not less in the education system.

MumTryingHerBest · 09/01/2018 13:47

noblegiraffe I think May is fixated with the "Grammar" buzz word. I suspect that is why Toby Young claims to have been a Grammar School boy despite the fact that the school was a comp. by the time he attended.

noblegiraffe · 09/01/2018 13:31

Do you think we’re going to see another attempt to push grammars through? FFS.

Also, I’m slightly pissed off that they replaced a comp-educated gay woman with a grammar educated white male who did PPE at Oxbridge. Identikit politician Hmm

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HPFA · 09/01/2018 11:48

This just sums up Theresa May all over. Nothing wrong with a politicain having an overriding passion for say, social mobility - that's good. Instead she has her one fixation - grammar schools - and continues to pursue this even though she can't give us a good, evidence based reason for doing so. This is how she messed up the 2017 election (well, as far as she was concerned) by her blind stubborness and adherence to her own prejudices. I actually dislike her more than Thatcher.

notjustbaconbutties · 09/01/2018 09:33

Iprefer, many might agree but they are allowed and, for various historical reasons discussed in the other thread, they're not going anywhere. The best we could have hoped for in the short term was a more level playing field on admissions, though Theresa May is intent on dashing those hopes, and the Catholic Education Service has been lobbying hard.

Iprefercoffeetotea · 09/01/2018 08:46

I have absolutely no problem with faith schools especially as they tend to be the best schools

only because they are highly selective - any school can be good if it cherry-picks its pupils. I am against a child being excluded from a school down the road because of the religion their parents claim to be. Faith schools should not be allowed. At all. But that's another thread.

isabelladmc · 08/01/2018 23:50

St Ambrose is one of those 'private in all but name' grammars so he wouldn't even be a return to the bollocks ideal past where grammars were a route out of poverty. And I'm a practising catholic too, but I don't think that any school should be allowed to discriminate on grounds of religion. Shutting the door to 'outsiders' is hardly inclusive and all about caring is it? Such separatism is hardly conducive to a coherent and happy society.

BrendansDanceShoes · 08/01/2018 23:27

Sorry to see a pro faith school pro grammar schools MP put in charge. I want a good school for every area for all kids. Why should kids be denied the chance to go to a good school near home just because they have no faith or didnt do well in an exam on one day when they were 10 years old? And i say this as an ex grammar school pupil

DamsonGin · 08/01/2018 22:38

*Justine

DamsonGin · 08/01/2018 22:38

His voting record is very pro academies so that might potentially kick up a gear.

Voting record...
www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24782/damian_hinds/east_hampshire/votes

I'm quite gutted, I'd taken quite a liking to Justin Greening, she actually seemed to be listening to teachers, first one in quite some time.

notjustbaconbutties · 08/01/2018 22:31

Unsurprisingly Damian Hinds is listed as one of these "Friends of Grammar Schools": conservativehome.blogs.com/gazette/2010/10/michael-gove-attends-graham-bradys-friends-of-grammar-schools-parliamentary-reception.html

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 08/01/2018 22:26

This is symptommatic of everything that’s wrong with English education isn’t it?

We have an education secretary who seemed to be gaining the trust of school leaders, a change in Ofsted which meant a similar thing was happening there and then then the whole thing gets booted into the long grass because it doesn’t fit the PMs vision or appeal to the people she’s trying to keep on side.

It does make you want to bang your head against a wall repeatedly.

noblegiraffe · 08/01/2018 22:15

“Liberal Democrat leader Sir Vince Cable said Ms Greening had been "pushed out", adding: "The only rational explanation would be that this is an acknowledgement that the Conservatives have a failed schools policy."”

From the BBC.
But the schools funding crisis and the grammar school debacle weren’t her fault! Well clearly she is majorly pissed off at having to handle all that shite only to be offered a demotion. No wonder she told them where to stick Work and Pensions.

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 08/01/2018 22:06

There is nothing wrong with Catholic schools. But if they want to receive the majority of their funding from the state then they should at least even up the admissions process. If they refuse to do that then they shouldn’t be allowed to open more schools.

And I say that as a practicing Catholic.

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