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Harry academy alarming tweet

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whaz · 22/11/2017 12:25

Harris academy has tweeted along the lines of the following

Particularly at this time of year female students should not be walking alone to or from school. They especially mention mornings. Ending the tweet with a be safe message.

What on earth are they going on about have girls been attacked?

Why would such a tweet be sent?

Does anyone know?

Is it unsafe for females to be walking to or from school at a particular time of the year or has some real and awful risk occurred?

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SE13Mummy · 23/11/2017 02:30

We received similarly cryptic text messages from our DC's primary school back in the summer term. I contacted the school and asked them to be more specific about the sort of vigilance they were encouraging. Subsequent messages have been a bit clearer.

I imagine the reason Harris Academy's tweet only mentioned girls is because it's girls (mostly aged 11-13) who have been assaulted in this series of attacks. The majority of attacks have taken place against girls on their way to school in the Lewisham and Greenwich area.

The MET Police appeal is here:
news.met.police.uk/news/appeal-following-linked-sexual-assaults-272535

DivisionBelle · 22/11/2017 21:15

What I would take from that Tweet is that over the last two months there have been attacks on girls / young women, in the mornings.

And I would think that until
The attacker is caught girls walking in pairs or groups will be less of a target for this particular attacker than those who are alone.

And I would ensure my Dd made such arrangements wherever possible.

Astronotus · 22/11/2017 14:52

I have just rec'd an email from school regarding an attack on a school child at 7.45am yesterday in Eltham. They quoted their letter from the police: "The suspect is described as a white male, approximately 50 years of age, light blonde hair, quite tall, wearing a grey jacket and a hat. The description is similar to the suspect from the linked series of sexual assaults currently being investigated. CCTV is currently being checked in the area and house to house enquiries are being made to try and trace any witnesses. Officers have been tasked to increase patrols in the area. CID at Greenwich and Lewisham are aware of this latest incident as part of our joint investigation strategy.

A month ago I spoke to a local policeman on the street who confirmed there had been many recent incidents in the Lewisham/Greenwhich area and as far out as Beckenham and Chislehurst/Petts Wood. He told me they were looking for two men - one white, blond and the other ethnic (this one was flashing at school children in wooded areas).

Harris should have emailed a letter to parents. Whaz, I would suggest you phone Harris and tell them to email a letter and to also speak to their students in assembly if they have not already done so.

BeautifulWintersMorning · 22/11/2017 14:23

It's mixed. It's probably in relation to it being specifically school girls on their way to and from school being targetted by the sex attacker in the Telegraph article. The advice they've given isn't very useful though. I've seen other schools advise people to if possible travel with others and choose busy roads rather than quiet ones.

CryingShame · 22/11/2017 13:43

Just checking - is this an all-girls school, or with split girls / boys campuses? Otherwise I can't see any justification for this.

I cam on to say that mugging rates are much higher for teenage boys, but others have beaten me to it. If there are also boys at this school, the message, statistically, should be directed to them. Unlesss teenage boys glow in the dark or something and I've missed seeing it.

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 22/11/2017 13:32

I hate a pet hate of communicates that scaremonger without proving useful advice.

Two of my children’s schools have put out such communications. They only did it once because I contacted them and since then they have been more measured, more specific and much more practical.

whaz · 22/11/2017 13:23

Thanks everyone I actually feel sick in the stomach now. I was worried and then alarmed but had first wondered if it was a sexist old dinosaur at a school being an idiot.

I will follow up with the school and will report back but wish to take a break for now.

I will try get them to take it down and I hope they have communicated properly with parents and other students.

This is just so sad that this is happening.

What a world we live in.

How can someone protect themselves by being street smart and staying safe from someone coming up to them in the street and sexually assaulting them. AngryAngryAngry

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DustandRubble · 22/11/2017 13:22

I agree the tweet is bad whaz. If they were concerned because of these attacks they could have referenced them and suggested all children (no need to say just girls) travel to school with a friend.

CalmanOnSpeeddial · 22/11/2017 13:21

Have Harris Academy checked the stats on teen assaults in public places? Because I’m pretty sure that it’s not the girls who are most likely to be victims. Young males are serveral times more likely to be the victims of assault or murder in public.

BubblesBuddy · 22/11/2017 13:18

I don’t really see what is wrong with asking girls to stay safe, giving good advice about this, especially if girls have been attacked. One would hope they were talking about walking in darkness in assemblies to reinforce the point. I would like to think the boys were advised too.

At my DDs university, the girls were warned not to walk alone back from the city centre to the hall of residence and always get a cab with a group of friends. That’s a fair warning as far as I am concerned. Be aware and take precautions!

Gileswithachainsaw · 22/11/2017 13:18

whaz

Hopefully someone will be able to say what has been put in place.

You can't just tweet putting it on the female students.

What choice do they have anyway

BeautifulWintersMorning · 22/11/2017 13:17

Cut and paste Particularly at this time of year, we advise that female students avoid walking to school alone or walking home alone. There have been a number of incidents over the last two months (mostly in the morning) in the borough. Our message: be streetwise, be alert, be safe.

whaz · 22/11/2017 13:14

dustandrubble thank you for posting that link, that is horrific, truly horrific the poor victims and their families.

I hope every resource is put in place to stop this.

The tweet from the school is terrible.

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DustandRubble · 22/11/2017 13:04

Could be to do with this, I am not sure they have caught the attacker yet: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/18/police-hunting-serial-sex-attacker-targeting-schoolgirls-south/

whaz · 22/11/2017 13:03

movingup you said it much better than I. Smile this has really annoyed me

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MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 22/11/2017 13:01

Statistically young men are more at risk of attack.

I don’t like the tone of the tweet, not just for the victim blaming, but because it contains no useful information. If there had been a spate of attacks against girls in the area and they were suggesting traveling in groups on foot where possible I can see the sense. If it’s just “women beware because if you don’t you deserve what you get” then that’s really not on.

whaz · 22/11/2017 13:01

No response as yet.

They refer to incidents over a number of months so it can’t just be a darkness thing.

I may put a note in the local board.

I think the way they finish the tweet is flippant as well.

If you are just street safe everything will be ok?

If you just have your freedom and liberty curtailed where you make sure you don’t independently travel to your secondary school?

I hope the police are actively involved with the school and proper proactive measures are taken with regard to the threat, what ever it is?

Maybe someone connected with the school will come along.

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VivaLeBeaver · 22/11/2017 12:58

Seriously?

My 16yo dd walks every evening from the local bus station to the train station. There's a very deserted, seldom used short cut. I've told her not to use it when it's dark. She's 5ft nothing. Is she at more risk of being raped/mugged than a 16yo boy? I would say so. Am I a bad parent for telling her not to use the short cut unless she's with someone? Should I be more right on and tell her she can do anything the boys can?

Gileswithachainsaw · 22/11/2017 12:53

How are the kids and parents going to feel about this there is literally zero choice for most.

You can't just say what they said then offer zero solution to the problem.

And yes address it to all students at least.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 22/11/2017 12:50

That seems so iffy. Do boys never get mugged?

MrsJayy · 22/11/2017 12:49

Maybe because it is dark butreally they should be saying in their safety message All pupils should walk together not mentioning girls

whaz · 22/11/2017 12:45

https://mobile.twitter.com/HarrisGreenwich/status/932991831801057282

Does this link work? Tweet says particularly at this time of the year and refers to incidents and yes I will email the school.

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Finola1step · 22/11/2017 12:37

Why not email the school direct and ask if the tweet was a general safety one or is the school acting on specific intelligence from the police?

whaz · 22/11/2017 12:37

Well it is dark for boy and girls, males and females isn’t it.

Going to try copy out the tweet.

Going to check with the police and local papers.

Girls unable to walk to and from school alone is just ridiculous at secondary school.

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VivaLeBeaver · 22/11/2017 12:34

Do they just mean because of dark mornings?

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