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Boarding sixth form for anorexic DD?

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julieah · 16/11/2017 00:52

I've homeschooled my DD for a few years as we pulled her out of school due to anxiety/anorexia. She's been following the english curriculum and wants to go back to school for sixth form to prepare for university etc. But we live in Scotland and none of the few english curriculum schools are near enough us. So I'm looking at boarding but every school seems to offer the same thing, i would feel better sending her away if the school had good pastoral care and is more structured than a college as i don't want her relapsing as soon as she gets away from home! She's fairly bright and will probably get As in her GCSEs but isn't especially sporty. My other DD went all through the state school system so i'm completely lost here. I'd also prefer if it didn't leave me bankrupt but that's flexible! Thank you! Grin

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happygardening · 16/11/2017 18:19

Can you give her more independence at home? In the 6th form could she buy her own food have her own cupboard shelf in the fridge like they do at uni and cook it without you getting overly involved just quietly overseeing? It does seem to me you would be moving her from one extreme to the other.

happygardening · 16/11/2017 18:15

Ninon I’m perfectly aware of the figures for independent ed, I used to work in the boarding sector and I’m not denying ED’s exist there, I’m disputing the statement unfounded boarding schools are breeding grounds for anorexia” etc it’s just not that black and white if only it was.
OP your obviously trying to come up with a good viable solution, I don’t really understand Scottish ed and why it wouldn’t work for your DD and I’m not saying don’t send her to a boarding school but you need to be realistic about what your going to get and ask yourself will it be enough and could your DD relapse in this kind of environment? I do think you can’t catagirically say that your 98% sure she’ll be ok. You won’t know the other pupils in her house, how she’ll get in with them or the staff, she might find the pressure of A levels difficult many without EDs do, she may not like the food etc. Can you really check if she’s not loosing weight will she cooperate get on the scales does she load her pockets or will she load up with water if she’s not with you much of the time how will you know?

julieah · 16/11/2017 18:14

I have the team working with DD, and they said it would probably be helpful getting away from DH. I'm not as sure as he isn't here the majority of the time and it's quite a risk sending her away as she could just relapse. There's pros and cons but ultimately it's my decision and they can only help so much as they can't tell me the right decision. And no one else is with us 24/7 so it's hard to get a snapshot of the whole situation and what DD is really like.

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DancingOnParsnips · 16/11/2017 18:08

I'm finding this a very frustrating thread.

OP do you have any support at all? Someone to guide to to make the best decision?

julieah · 16/11/2017 18:05

I just don't want me to be monitoring her food intake for years and her go off to uni and just starve herself because she has no one telling her what to eat, no one buying food, and has had no experience regulating her own intake in a stable environment. I have no idea what would happen either way, but i don't want to hold her back by keeping her with me. I just think being in a school with meal times and food provided but it is her responsibility to eat the right amount and eat well would be helpful. I don't know what I'll do yet, there are loads of options and it's quite confusing. I just want to do the best thing for her.

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Babymamamama · 16/11/2017 17:55

OP how on earth could you be 98 per cent she wouldn't have to leave? How could anyone give that reassurance particularly throwing a mental health condition into the mix. I think you might need to take a less rigid more day by day view of this. Bottom line is your daughter is unwell so ideally she would be best placed at home and under your care surely?

LIZS · 16/11/2017 17:53

How old is she now if she is taking gcse and highers next summer?

NinonDeLenclos · 16/11/2017 17:51

You can never be 98% sure of anything with an anorexic full stop.

julieah · 16/11/2017 17:49

LIZS - She would only be 1 year out of the system if she had to leave mid year i think? Also She is sitting her higher math and english next year so would have equivalent of A level already, she would want to take history, geography, biology/physics at A level but im not sure if these are helpful for psychology other than biology. Unless i'm 98% sure she's not going to have to leave then i wouldn't let her go because there's no point if she just has to leave.

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NinonDeLenclos · 16/11/2017 17:49

This has been the case for a few months and she hasn't lost a significant amount of weight so I trust she's actually making and eating food

This is painfully naïve. With respect I think you need to get your head round the nature of what you're dealing with. A few months is nothing.

If she can do highers in a day school nearby why on earth don't you just aim for that. Two years of stability and managing her condition will stand her in much better stead for coping at uni than crashing out of boarding school, changing schools & having to resume intensive treatment.

julieah · 16/11/2017 17:44

I told him that if his behaviour doesn't improve he wasn't welcome back, and if he did we would move to my sisters house at the weekends. He seems to be better now after i told him that, but obviously it will take a while for dd to be completely comfortable with him and a while for him to transition to being ok all the time with us. It's not his fault for being ill but it is his responsibility to deal with it and not be horrible when he's at home.

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LIZS · 16/11/2017 17:43

In England you can only get funding up to age 19 for level 3 qualifications (A level, Btec etc) in state system. Psychology is a "hot" degree course at the moment so competitive to get a uni place and it is worth checking what typical entry requirements are. Some may require Maths A level for example, others may be less specific and accept other level 3 qualifications.

callmeadoctor · 16/11/2017 17:39

Can DH not stay in his flat and not visit if she is so frightened?

julieah · 16/11/2017 17:36

LIZS - if she had to leave mid year depending on the reason we would probably get her back into treatment and put her into a day school near where I live starting the next year so she would still get highers. Possible starting with tutoring at home before she starts so she would have a good chance of good grades. What do you mean about funding? And she wants to do psychology then primary education, so I think she would need A levels but I'm not absolutely sure. I just want to give her a chance of independence and learning to stand on her own feet a little bit more before moving away to university.

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Haffdonga · 16/11/2017 17:32

Boarding school plus eating disorder?

Very Bad Idea.

LIZS · 16/11/2017 17:27

The other issue to consider is what would you do if it didn't work out and you had to remove her mid year. Courses are often not easily transferrable and she would potentially be faced with restarting the following year. Funding only allows for being one year out of sync. Does she need to take A levels for her uni course , would an extended level 3 Btec (3 A level equivalent) be an option?

Scabbersley · 16/11/2017 17:17

Suesue I think it's completely ridiculous for a school to tell you it can cope with eating disorders and would keep the girls at school. Of course they are not qualified to deal with them. No boarding school worth its salt would want a girl with a known ED. The schools I am talking about are renowned for their pastoral care. That includes realising when a girl should no long be in a boarding school environment. If your dd is at a decent girls boarding school I'd be very surprised if it didn't have something similar in the small print.

julieah · 16/11/2017 17:16

I wouldn't send her away if she still needed 24/7 supervision, but even now she's trusted to make and eat her own lunches, breakfasts etc. and only eats with me at dinner. This has been the case for a few months and she hasn't lost a significant amount of weight so I trust she's actually making and eating food. I think in another year she may be okay to go, my worry obviously is that the environment would shock her into restricting again. If I can see her regularly (e.g. flexi/weekly boarding) then I can check she isn't losing weight and is doing okay. If she gets worse in the next year I wouldn't even register her as i don't want to risk her health, but she really wants to go to university and I think this step towards independence would be good for her. The school would obviously have to know she struggles with an ED but I wouldn't expect an insane pastoral care program, I would just want them to make sure she's okay and be sure that there isn't a whole group of them participating in disordered behaviours (that would definitely propel her straight back in). And she wants to go which is key, she feels able to leave home and be away from where is essentially her comfort zone now

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NinonDeLenclos · 16/11/2017 17:00

I agree the girls are generally a type and often come from similiar backgrounds but the overwhelming majority are day and state educated.

Well of course they are - those make up the majority of schools. Only 7% of all schools are private and only a fraction of those are boarding. (There are of course a few state boarding schools like Cranbrook but not many).

happygardening · 16/11/2017 16:54

I’ve known schools ask pupils with EDs to leave. If they are not eating, loosing loads of weight then as the school has a duty of care they cannot keep children in school. This is because as I keep saying they are a school not a thereputic setting the staff are not competent or trained to manage a the condition, many often don’t understand how to manage correctly, and it is complicated to manage, it requires massive input, it’s not just a matter of “eat your greens dear” (if only it was), it requires patients and diligence from school the staff because as the OP has said if you have an eating disorder you’re manipulative and deceitful. Frankly my heart sinks when I’m asked to get involved with one, it’s just not my type of thing, thankfully others love it. But in their very acute phase they are complicated to manage and require properly trained staff not enthusiastic amateurs.

LIZS · 16/11/2017 16:46

I would be wary about going from homeschooling to boarding particularly in the circumstances. It is such a leap in independence for study and life that any anxiety may trigger a relapse.

SueSueDonahue · 16/11/2017 16:41

@Scabbersley that’s why as a parent I asked very clear pastoral care questions before my DD was registered, and she doesn’t even have an ED. I just see it as indicative of how they deal with health (and mental health) issues as a school.

Sad that two schools you know of would ask girls to leave. I haven’t known a school recently where that has been the case though myself, but I can guess the type of girls school that would and they wouldn’t be my choice. I want my DD to go to a school that care deeply about their students and wouldn’t ask them to leave at the very moment when they need help and consistent care the most.

Some schools are very welcoming of all sorts of issues, as long as everyone (the staff, student and parents are on board with the same message and plan) and these are not necessarily the “non academic” schools either.

Mishappening · 16/11/2017 16:40

I can only speak as I found - one of my DDs went to an all-girls boarding school from age 11 to 6th form, when she then went to the local 6th form college. She did weekly boarding at the school until a bus service materialised.

This is a very famous chain of schools (Haberdashers) and the pastoral care was zilch. I blame them for her subsequent need to take anti-depressants for her anxiety. No-one noticed when she was in need of support, and her creativity was quashed.

So - I am biased - but I would not send a child with any sort of special need (including anorexia) to a school where I had no control over the pastoral care. And especially not a single sex one.

Scabbersley · 16/11/2017 16:34

*similar. I doubt there are monkeys everywhere Confused

Scabbersley · 16/11/2017 16:33

Has anyone actually read my posts? Developing an ED is grounds for being asked to leave at two private schools I have had contact with so I am presuming it is simian elsewhere. They do NOT want it and do not have the skills to deal with it.

I think you must be feeling desperate OP to even be considering this. Full time boarding is stressful enough let alone after having been home educated for years and with an ED.

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