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Please could I have some advice about how to handle this situation

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SwanneeKazoo · 26/10/2017 13:51

Dd is 17 and is in Yr 13. She is a bright girl, in that she gets As and Bs for her course work, but she completely tanked her AS and end of year exams in Yr 12 - she got two Us and an E. She did revise for them, but clearly not effectively. Her results were a big shock for her and for us and we had many discussions, rows and tears. She felt that we had been too hard on her (although she has very few limitations on what she does, she has a wide circle of friends and socialises and goes to gigs more or less whenever she wants). We agreed to change our behaviour, which effectively means that we must not mention studying, exams, university, the future or suggest that she might have the balance between her social life and school work wrong. She assured us she was perfectly aware that she needed to work hard and that she was doing a lot of work in her free periods at school and at home.

However, nothing seems to have changed. She has an important test the first day she goes back to school after half-term, which will determine one of her predicted grades, but the pattern of her days this holiday runs something like: wake up between 9 - 10am, watch youtube, text, instragram, whatsapp etc for another hour or so on her phone, get up, watch TV until hungry, make breakfast, get ready, back on the phone, do a bit of work (but not every day and she has a video playing on her phone at the same time and is also texting etc. This was something I asked her not to do when she was revising last year, but she said it helped her study), then back to watching youtube, instagramming etc etc full-time until dinner, then same again after dinner until bed, between 10 - 12. On school days she gets back, and straight into tv, youtube etc, with maybe an hours' work slotted in before bed.
Is this typical behaviour? The shock of her results seems to have worn off and she has gone back to her old ways. We have tried to talk with her a couple of times, but it results in rudeness, stroppiness, big sighs of "I know" and point blank no attempt to engage with what we are worried about. Her bedroom is an absolute tip, clothes everywhere but again, there is the stropping about if we mention it.
Reading this back she sounds like a complete spoilt brat with a couple of wet lettuces for parents, but she isn't like that really and we are not walk-overs either! However, we don't know what to do for best. Do we just let her carry on as she is and hope it turns out ok? How do we learn to turn a blind eye and not say anything? Do we need to be more strict? Has anyone been through this same situation and how did it turn out in the end?
Thank you for reading and any tips and advice would be very welcome.

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SwanneeKazoo · 26/10/2017 14:30

Caulk, thank you, that is a good idea about getting the teachers to have a word. It is very frustrating for her to dismiss what I am saying, as if I don't know what I am talking about!

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Caulk · 26/10/2017 14:19

My god daughter was like this. She did very little until the 48 hours before each exam. Her School released expected grades in about January? and she realised she still wasn’t working hard enough.

She used to come and work at my house as she was less distracted than at home, and we realised that she didn’t actually know how to revise - she had never had to. Her parents got school by talking to her about what she would do if she didn’t get the grades. She wouldn’t have listened to her parents but did to other adults IYSWIM and managed well in her undergrade. Dropped out of her MA though...

SwanneeKazoo · 26/10/2017 14:13

Thank you Fffion, you are so right about the difference in work between GCSEs and A levels - dd has managed to sail through school so far so hasn't learnt that hard work pays off. And I do not want to blight her final school year with constant arguments and destroy our relationship. What was the turning moment for your dd to learn her lessons, do you think?

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Fffion · 26/10/2017 14:02

My sympathies.

I have had two children who did not pay appreciate how much work is needed to do well in A-levels. They wasted their time on computer games rather than going out. A clever kid can ace their GCSEs, but don't realise that you need to work hard for A-levels, even if clever.

I don't think there is an awful lot you can do, tbh. You can't really change the way they are wired. If you nag, you just end,up getting angry with one another and destroy the relationship.

My DS who was like this has not done well academically beyond GCSE but he seems happy enough in his underachievement. My DD has learnt her lessons and is on track for a first in her final year at Uni (her insurance choice).

My two who did well worked hard consistently through their A-levels and so had no doors closed to them.

However frustrating their study habits are, you can't force them, only encourage. As long as they know the consequences of their short term thinking, it's their life.

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