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Outrageously harsh school reprimands pupils for forgetting a pen

66 replies

noblegiraffe · 04/10/2017 19:42

They're scraping the bottom of the barrel with these 'strictest school in the country' stories now.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-41496276

Are these parents serious? Kids crying because if they forget a pen 6 times they get a detention?

SEND YOUR KIDS TO SCHOOL WITH A SODDING PEN. AND A SPARE. AND AN EMERGENCY PEN IN A SECRET POCKET IN THEIR SCHOOLBAG.

And breathe.

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KittyVonCatsington · 05/10/2017 14:51

They won't Fecks. There are 1500 pupils there.

We have to know who are pupil premium children are, even in a school of that size. Just like SEND, they should be clearly identified and planned for in lessons. I say should, plenty teachers don't or forget but that doesn't excuse the fact that they should know. OFSTED would jump on that pretty quickly.

woodhill · 05/10/2017 14:48

Death

woodhill · 05/10/2017 14:48

Sick to rematch of lending pens.

LoniceraJaponica · 05/10/2017 14:46

They won't Fecks. There are 1500 pupils there.

Fecks · 05/10/2017 14:08

I'm pretty sure the staff will know which DC are pupil premium and may be from deprived background and which ones are just disorganised.

WyfOfBathe · 05/10/2017 13:21

The only problem I can see is if they get a mark every lesson (so forgetting a pen one day could lead to five marks).

Where I teach, form tutors are supposed to give detentions if students don't have everything on the kit list every day. I check for pens and homework diary, but I don't care if a student with no science lessons hasn't brought their lab coat.

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2017 12:42

I stopped buying pens to lend out in about my 2nd year of teaching. Kids never gave them back and it cost a fortune.
Now at the end of a lesson I pick up any scraggy pens and pencils that kids have forgotten and lend those out. 'Ew but that's mank' gets a reply of 'beggars can't be choosers, next time bring your own'.

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MrGrumpy01 · 05/10/2017 12:28

That was somewhat of a let down. It seems fairly reasonable to me.

Dd has an equipment check on a Monday and I think you get a mark if you haven't got something. I made her put spare pens just in her bag so she knows she always has them. I think they are sent off to student services to buy a pen if they forget which seems fairly reasonable.

But that school still seems very relaxed, especially compared to one of my local schools.

GlitterGlue · 05/10/2017 12:25

Six times? Detention the first time.

Some canny child needs to stock up at Poundland and sell them on for a profit.

Floralnomad · 05/10/2017 12:24

My son is a teacher at a secondary and he buys job lots of cheap pens at Poundland each half term and still runs out because the children never have a pen . It's ridiculous , but he also rang a parent to say a child hadn't handed in any homework and she told him the child can't take work home because he doesn't take a bag . It beggars belief.

BigSandyBalls2015 · 05/10/2017 12:16

My DDs school has just introduced a 'ladder of consequences' for being caught with a mobile phone.

1st offence - 10 min detention and phone confiscated until end of day.
2nd offence - 10 min det and phone confiscated until end of week
3rd offence - 10 min det and phone confiscated until end of that term.
4th offence - 10 min det and phone confiscated until the end of that academic year

Grin just wondering how they're going to enforce the last one - can you imagine all the parents paying contract phone bills for months without actually having a phone!

I can completely understand the reasoning behind this though, to be fair, must be a nightmare trying to teach a class with everyone sneaking a peak a their mobiles.

Frequency · 05/10/2017 12:15

We all have a pack of pens each in our school/college/work bags plus a pack of pens on my desk.

They're 70p for 10 in Wilkos.

I'm pretty lax at most things, but even I can remember a pen. You just pop a handful in your bag and leave them there. My I.D otoh...

LoniceraJaponica · 05/10/2017 12:11

A pretty even split by all accounts.

noblegiraffe · 05/10/2017 12:09

Supporting the school or supporting the whiny parents?

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LoniceraJaponica · 05/10/2017 12:07

Apparently the local radio station had so many phone calls about this yesterday.

Soursprout · 05/10/2017 09:52

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mmzz · 05/10/2017 09:19

My old geography teacher used to immediately belt anyone who forgot any part of their pencil case contents. I was genuinely scared of him.

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 05/10/2017 09:09

In ours, not having right equipment for lessons (which includes pens) is logged as a minor 'offence' (as are uniform infractions) but if you get more than 3 in a week, or 9 in a term it's detention.

2014newme · 05/10/2017 09:06

At our school not having the right equipment for lessons can reaimt in a reprimand or detention it's classed as being unprepared for lesson.
Can't see anything wrong with that 'miss, I havent got a pen' must drive teachers mad.
It's not unusual it's just sensational reporting

LoniceraJaponica · 04/10/2017 21:57

"We don't hear that, or similar, a hundred times a day. Pen-is-tun is my nearest town,"

Waves to BikeRunSki

"I am lolling that it's a grammar school."

Only in name. The school was founded in 1392 and has kept the same name the entire time. It is a rather good comprehensive school. There is no 11+ in the local authority (thank goodness).

silkpyjamasallday · 04/10/2017 21:48

I once got a detention for not having a sharp enough pencil

MaisyPops · 04/10/2017 21:48

lottie You don't understand. They're children so just forgot how many of the pen forgetters are glued to their phone in life and never manage to forget that Having a pen doesn't affect their brain either so they don't need it to learn. It's yet another rule made up by teachers and schools who are so awful at teaching they need silly rules to make them feel big when they bully children. GrinGrin

OuchBollocks · 04/10/2017 21:45

There's a scene in an episode of Buffy the vampire slayer, where she's preparing her mum for how bad parent teacher night is going to be, and Buffy says her teachers will all agree she always brings a pen to class ready to absorb the knowledge. Apparently this is relatively good performance at some schools Hmm

LottieDoubtie · 04/10/2017 21:44

Er what are the parents upset about? They forget a pen and nothing at all happens unless they do it 6 times? I'd say that's pretty fucking lenient as systems go... I mean what's the alternative no consequences at all ever?

scaryclown · 04/10/2017 21:41

Don't they have computers yet?