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Gileswithachainsaw · 27/09/2017 12:35

What do i look out for so I don't fall for any nonsense.

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Gileswithachainsaw · 09/10/2017 06:56

Look the whole point of an open evening is to show parents round and answer questions and give parents a feel for the place.

If you have shy kids who volunteer then probably best not to group 3/4 of all the shy kids together in the same group.

It's very hard to feel welcomed when kids are either moaning people are following them, making you feel like somehow your somehow in the way of their conversations with other people or generally not really talking to you or answering questions.

And it's not exactly hard to work out when kids are being a little ott with how good things are. There will always be some negatives...

First one the head let them down more than anything.

Second one, well we could sit here and come up with multiple reasons why the evening went like it did. But it honestly just wasn't very welcoming. Not in my groups anyway.

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PaleAzureofSummer · 09/10/2017 06:28

Maybe the quiet one was very shy or had an SEN. Sounds like they can't win though if the other one was too happy!

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2017 22:52

Both schools so far have made a point of saying bow the kids had volunteered.

First one seemed far too happy

Second one first set of kids were rude tbh. And the second barely said a word Hmm

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Linneasweet · 08/10/2017 22:46

In my DD school the student guides are voluntary, my DD have done it every year since she started (yr 9 now). Important for me was that you had a student showing me around: Christ know they are honest! Second thing, which didn't occur to me until after DD started but which have for the last 3 years started to annoy me more and more: ask about block homework. My DD can come home with 4 pieces on the Friday which has to be done by Tuesday or absolutely nothing at all. Drives me mad as if we are going away or she have a netball tournament etc the whole weekend she can only spend maximum a few hours at homework: not the 5 + hours that's needed. Thus is causing major stress in our house as she want to do it but just no time.

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2017 22:18

I will be doing my best to push for sporty info at the next open session.

At the very least I desperately need something to put in the "other information" boxes on the application if I get the chance to appeal

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Needmoresleep · 08/10/2017 21:15

Ask if it is possible to be shown round by a sporty/musical/party child (delete as applicable). DD had no interest in seeing music rooms or drama facilities but was very interested in what sports were available and enjoyed being shown round by girls who could answer her questions.

CotswoldStrife · 08/10/2017 17:22

We have been doing the tours recently too. I didn't like two of the heads of the most popular local schools so that was a bit of a disappointment. One school that I wasn't expecting to like at all was absolutely brilliant and is now a front runner completely out of nowhere!

Our nearest school 'requires improvement' and I can't even face going round it Blush Conversely, we went round one school that is a bit tricky to travel to and loved it - it's a real contender - sometimes you do just get a gut feeling about a school. It is pretty stressful trying to choose one though, we have tried to see as many as possible to get a good idea of what is out there.

We also have grammar schools, just to complicate matters Grin

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2017 17:17

No they don't work there but it's hard to remain positive when everyone at school is telling dd how bad it is

And it's being used as an example of where not to go by parents :(

I really wanted to like it so at least I could relax about our waiting list time

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DizzyDandelion · 08/10/2017 17:01

Hope teacher does not work there...
If teacher does Not work there maybe take what they say with pinch of salt as well...

Gileswithachainsaw · 08/10/2017 09:39

I know. Dp works nearby the catchment school he's been advised by a teacher not to send dd there.

I was not impressed at the open evening either. Facilities looked fab but what's the use if the rest sucks.

I'm honestly heartbroken she will be going there and that there's fuck all I can do about it besides waiting on a list with the other hundreds of parents trying to avoid the same school...

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ReinettePompadour · 07/10/2017 22:56

I've been to 3 this week and got another 3 to see. My ds likes 1 so far but I think a different one will suit him better. I'm hoping one of the others will find us agreeing.

All the staff have been very cagey at all the schools. Everyone has said the results are irrelevant this year because of the new exams and theyre not prepared to state either way how the school is doing. I managed to get a few teachers to admit they wouldn't send their children to the school they work at so thats given me more of a reason to not consider those schools.

I wish all schools provided the same level of teaching and support then this wouldn't be such a problem. Confused

Gileswithachainsaw · 06/10/2017 12:36

I don't know the percentages of my area. I honestly don't know if she is at the tight level. One minute she's off and knows exactly what she's doing and the next im.surprised she even knows what day it is.

I honestly couldn't call it....

I've got one more school to see and That's the one I really want

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ToffeeCaramel · 06/10/2017 12:25

You might get the grammar. What percentage get the grammar in your area and is your dd at that level?

Gileswithachainsaw · 06/10/2017 12:06

Well sevond viewing now completed not sure how I feel about this place either. Very mixed feelings of gone in with an open mind but secretly hoping I'd see something that would stop me worrying about dd going there but I think I'm more worried than ever now..

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ChocolateWombat · 29/09/2017 21:29

But at most open evenings, there will be a range of people available who can answer questions.
A teacher might not know about admissions, but there will usually be someone there from the admin section who does know that stuff - because it's a key area people want to know about. That admin person will usually answer about school transport and other practical issues too, such as free school meals or maybe uniform.
It's fine if every single person at the open evening can't answer every question....as long as they can direct you to someone who can, or are able to put you in touch with someone who will later answer the question.
Open evenings/mornings are all about information provision, not just seeing the shiny water coolers.

Go with lots of questions. If you don't ask, the chances are you wont find out and only hear the glossy spiel.

Bekabeech · 29/09/2017 18:26

I’ve heard a lot of wrong information from teachers even deputy heads and heads of year. Those kind of statistics are often in a prospectus or other booklet. Heads often do know but can sometimes be misleading.

CamperVamp · 29/09/2017 18:06

"If my child getting in is questionable, I would ask for historic info about kids who fit my DC profile in terms of distance etc." Teachers are not part of the admissions process, and often don't actually fully understand it. Their job is to teach the kids in front of them, not worry about how they did or didn't get there.

TansyVioletta · 29/09/2017 17:39

Maybe they hired them for the evening. Dd takes a bottle of water to school so wouldn't need a water cooler.

Gileswithachainsaw · 29/09/2017 17:37

That's so shit :(

Why have water coolers and not put them out

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ReinettePompadour · 29/09/2017 17:18

I went last night to DDs current high school but for DS to view. I was very disappointed in how it looks after 12 months with a new head. The school looks sparkly new after thousands spent on refurbishments but the the text books are very old and desperately need to be replaced plus nowhere near enough computers to teach a class of 20 let alone 35 really has made me cross.

They had new water coolers in every corridor that my DD tells me weren't there this week and have been removed today after the open evening.

The comfy chairs we sat on last night in the hall have all gone today.

It looked ok but the staff didn't really know much about the community or results for high mid and low achievers. They just all said the same words so clearly staged. Sad

ChocolateWombat · 29/09/2017 12:53

I would ask a senior teacher about the proportion of low, middle and high achievers and which students they were adding most value to.

I would ask about GCSE options and the numbers which are offered 2 languages or triple science and if there are any other things which are only available to certai X true to and which ones.

If my child getting in is questionable, I would ask for historic info about kids who fit my DC profile in terms of distance etc.

I'd like to know the % going into A Levels and from 6th form into uni and % going onto RG uni.

I might ask about the % playing an instrument or the numbers of Yr7 in a sports team or music group, or the numbers taking DofE at each stage.

If they couldn't tel me any of that stuff (especially the first Q) off the top of their heads, I would want them to find someone who knew or take my details so they could get back to me with answers.

Realise not everyone will be interested in this stuff, but I'm more interested in this than science experiments which are being shown and happen once a year.

TansyVioletta · 29/09/2017 10:28

That's true claraschu. Our next door neighbour said they'd be happy to send their baby to the local primary as our kids went there and they are nice. I thought "well thanks, but some of the kids there are horrible!"

claraschu · 29/09/2017 08:23

I think that it is a mistake to be too influenced by the child who shows you around. I have been shown around by several kids who didn't have much to say and didn't have a quirky sense of humour, which put me off the school a bit, but that isn't really fair.

I know that if I got a lively, slightly irreverent, guide, with lots of opinions and a friendly attitude, I would be very impressed with the school, but actually I should just be impressed with the child and his/her family.

Gileswithachainsaw · 29/09/2017 08:16

Yeah it's bizarre isn't it i mean off the top of my head I cab think of so many nearby schools both secondary and primary it seems ridiculous to think you would have any problems getting onto a decent one.

Then when you realise the catchment is small and it's a faith school or a grammar school and your catchment school takes longer to get to than ones further away it all just seems so bonkers...

I just wish they could all be good schools then it wouldn't matter

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CottonSock · 29/09/2017 08:06

We live in a city and the catchments for the good schools are tiny. Our local comprehensive has awful results, but others are worse..one of them was on the tv programme educating....... (insert city). I need to win the lottery to move near a good school. I guess I assumed it was like this everywhere

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