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Which are the best state secondary schools in London?

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rainbowworld · 16/09/2017 22:19

We need to move house and a good local secondary school is our top priority.

Next most important thing is house prices - our budget is 700k for a four-bed house.

And finally, a doable commute to west London (central line) is desirable.

Ideas please!

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TansyVioletta · 23/09/2017 15:10

Yes Wallington boys and Wilsons are super selective.

Wimbles101 · 23/09/2017 14:47

I really can't comment on Wally Girls but it's not the case for Wally boys. Scores first and then catchment.
They have too many bright pupils now - from their perspective it just wouldn't make sense to take a local kid who is less bright than a non local one.

TansyVioletta · 23/09/2017 14:21

Yes all places are selective and you need to pass the exam. My understanding of super selective though is that there is no catchment area. ie. Selected on score only and it doesn't matter where you live. That applies to only half of the places though doesn't it for Wallington Girls? The other half are selective within a catchment, so lower score required than the super selective places from outside the catchment to get a place?

Wimbles101 · 23/09/2017 13:32

Sorry to clarify - all places at Sutton Grammars are super selective - places once the highly competitive exams are passed are then allocated on distance from school - you will not get in based on distance -a) if you didn't pass the exam b) if you passed but your score isn't high enough - HTH

Distance means you will be prioritised if you have the same score as a child who lives further away.

Each school has slightly different criteria with some reserving more places for local kids than others but this is the basic premise.

There are no places for those that haven't passed the SET with a high enough score and then passed the second stage in the case of Wilsons, SGS and Nonsuch.

lilybookins · 23/09/2017 13:26

As far as I know all places at wallington and nonsuch are selective - but they make more places for those who pass the exam and who are in Borough

TansyVioletta · 23/09/2017 13:18

I see Tefal has already said the same

TansyVioletta · 23/09/2017 13:18

Wallington Girls is only half super selective isn't it? The other half of the places are from catchment areas. (Unless that's changed.) Nonsuch possibly the same?

JoJoSM2 · 22/09/2017 23:14

CamperVamp, grammars are good if you can get in. Otherwise, as a local authority, Sutton has the highest Attainment 8 average score per pupil in the entire country. It's also been consistently in the top 3 highest attaining LAs is the country (for primary as well as secondary) for years, which means there are many great non-selective schools too.
Additionally, it's one of the cheapest boroughs in London so for 700k you're looking at a spacious 4 or 5-bed with a big garden and a garage/or at least off street parking. Unfortunately, it's pretty inconvenient for West London.

TefalTester123 · 22/09/2017 22:26

Not quite correct. Look closer at the entry requirements in Sutton. There are some local places at Nonsuch, Wallington girls and Sutton Grammar.

Esker · 22/09/2017 22:10

ujerneyson JFS has good results but out of all Brent schools I thought Wembley High Technology College has had the best for several years.

OP you could def afford a house in the catchment for Wembley High, although it's a pretty dead/ boring area. Nearest tube Bakerloo line, North Wembley station, or else Sudbury on Piccadilly line.

Wimbles101 · 22/09/2017 22:03

I wouldn't move to Sutton on the off chance of getting into a grammar - as has been pointed out they are all super selective and you're competing with candidates who travel from all over the country.
Other options are Glenthorne and Greenshaw as well as Cheam High - all decent.
Rutlish - I'm intrigued that people would love to be closer...yes it is now outstanding but the catchment is Wbledon so it ain't cheap.
Croydon is a good option but nowhere near West London.

CamperVamp · 22/09/2017 05:19

JoJoSM2: do you mean Grammars, though? If so, it depends on getting in, and in Sutton they are super selective (no distance criteria / people apply from miles and miles, the top scores get in)

CamperVamp · 22/09/2017 05:16

Are you moving in time for the Yr 7 Secondary Transfer?

You might find somewhere at that price in catchment for Dunraven in Streatham, which also gives the option of Elmgreen, and within easy travelling distance of Kingsdale where you can try for a lottery place.

I believe Sunbury has a great secondary, where house prices are cheaper and it is West.

Paperclipmover · 21/09/2017 08:55

That's interesting annandale do you know why? Is it because they have boys and girls and want them to go to the same school?

I think the "catchment" was over 2miles this year and there hasn't been one at all for the last few. Even so I can't think of anywhere nearish you'd get a 4 bed for that price.

Rose0 · 21/09/2017 08:33

I think Wren Academy one Friern Barnet is meant to be very good - it's got a really outstanding progress 8 score (like the highest band you can get) and outstanding ofsted. I think it might be CofE though. Also Compton in the same area - I think it's very academic.

There are the twin QE schools which are grammar schools but also meant to be excellent, and then Mill Hill County used to be very well regarded but I'm not sure what it's like now.

JoJoSM2 · 21/09/2017 00:35

You'd get the best of the best schools and a house on that budget in the boroughs of Sutton and Bexley. Not a good commute to West London, though.

annandale · 20/09/2017 23:24

I doubt it's the best, but I have at least one friend who won't move out of the catchment for Acland Burghley. If you can manage a 3 bed flat rather than a 4 bed house, it's an option.

rainbowworld · 20/09/2017 23:18

Ealing is a good option, as is north London / northern line.

Anyone know anything about state schools in High Barnet - part from the QE ones?

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reup · 20/09/2017 20:32

Ealing - it's on the central line - has lots of secondaries - could just get a 4 bed in Hanwell for that price and crossrail is coming.

Itsgoodforthegarden · 19/09/2017 13:26

Shamelessly following this thread Grin

Hayesking · 19/09/2017 07:47

Southgate? Ashmole academy is very good although not a top school

Rose0 · 19/09/2017 07:45

Ooh - just sticking to the northern line purely for the commute (east change to central line), you could try the north of the line and look at Wren Academy or The Compton School (and then go from Totteridge/Woodside/a Finchley stop).

I don't know anything much about Charter, sorry!

rainbowworld · 19/09/2017 00:39

Yes that makes sense Rose!

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PurplePickledPlums · 18/09/2017 22:44

Alexandra Park School in Muswell Hill is fantastic and a walk to the Piccadilly line but it would be a long journey.

Rose0 · 18/09/2017 22:36

Oh my I didn't mean in the catchment for all four at once - just one or two max, and the odd property fitted that bill (in catchment for at least one).

You could go as far as Morden when you'd still be on the northern line and potentially try Rutlish or Glenthorne - or as a previous poster mentioned Sutton Grammar, though I heard it's very hard to get into. Cheam is also the Sutton/Morden way and meant to be very good (although has a very tight catchment I think and is pretty huge - I think around 2000 students!)

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